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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 3 @ 10:19 AM ET
all of which i agree with, which leads me to ask: how does a player of his ability, or lack thereof, not only earn an nhl roster spot, but also a 2 year extension before the final year of his contract has expired?
- hammarby31



For one, the player has more ability then a lot of fans give him credit for. And secondly, the team sees potential in the player, and likely wants to show they have confidence in the player, in the hopes that the pressure of having to play for a contract is removed, and he can just concentrate on getting better as a player, in a comfortable situation.
acd513
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 06.23.2013

Sep 3 @ 10:25 AM ET
Actually I think it would be. They are all very responsible defensively and have some offense and speed in their game.
- ManCity


Laughton and Bellemare have zero NHL experience. Raffl would be great on the 4th line, but sadly, this team will need him in the top 9. Not to mention the line would have zero physicality.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Sep 3 @ 10:26 AM ET
Actually I think it would be. They are all very responsible defensively and have some offense and speed in their game.
- ManCity

I believe, you are putting too much trust in that projected line. 2/3 players do not have NHL experience.
Additionally, raffl may need to play in the top 9 at times.
I do believe however that each and everyone of these players is more responsible than rinaldo
Edit: just a bit leight
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 3 @ 10:26 AM ET
http://m.ottawasun.com/2014/09/03/penguins-star-sidney-crosby-arrested-in-ottawa

this should be interesting....

- hammarby31

The police say they have had no dealings with Sid, and the Pens say he's in Colorado training. Great job, Sun.

EDIT: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=460894
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Sep 3 @ 10:28 AM ET
The police say they have had no dealings with Sid, and the Pens say he's in Colorado training. Great job, Sun.

EDIT: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=460894

- BulliesPhan87

coverup
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Sep 3 @ 10:29 AM ET
http://m.ottawasun.com/2014/09/03/penguins-star-sidney-crosby-arrested-in-ottawa

this should be interesting....

- hammarby31



was there any butt grabbing along the way? because... its important, ya know?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Sep 3 @ 10:33 AM ET
coverup
- PhillaBully


right. just like my original post being deleted for some strange unnecessary reason.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 3 @ 10:33 AM ET
Players that suck don't get re-signed to two year contracts.
- MJL


Randy Jones disagrees.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 3 @ 10:34 AM ET
Rinaldo is a clown and deters nobody from targeting your stars.
- rangerdanger94


One of our stars is probably more likely to get run in retaliation for one of Rinaldo's big hits.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Sep 3 @ 10:36 AM ET
right. just like my original post being deleted for some strange unnecessary reason.
- hammarby31

was it? what for?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 3 @ 10:36 AM ET
One of our stars is probably more likely to get run in retaliation for one of Rinaldo's big hits.
- Tomahawk


We were lucky the only player Rinaldo concussed with a dirty hit was a Buffalo nobody and it was the last game of the season against them.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Sep 3 @ 10:38 AM ET
was it? what for?
- PhillaBully


it was. and i don't know.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Sep 3 @ 10:41 AM ET
The police say they have had no dealings with Sid, and the Pens say he's in Colorado training. Great job, Sun.

EDIT: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=460894

- BulliesPhan87


Actually, it was Bieber, whom they mistook for Crosby. The Biebs must've thrown a junk punch from behind in his assault case.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Sep 3 @ 10:42 AM ET
it was. and i don't know.
- hammarby31


its a sidspiracy i tell you...time to put the tin foil hat on

PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Sep 3 @ 10:43 AM ET
Actually, it was Bieber, whom they mistook for Crosby. The Biebs must've thrown a junk punch from behind in his assault case.
- tangent_man



How does one mistake Bieber for crosby? Unless Bieber and crosby were together.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 3 @ 10:44 AM ET
Actually, it was Bieber, whom they mistook for Crosby. The Biebs must've thrown a junk punch from behind in his assault case.
- tangent_man



Come to think of it, has anyone actually seen Bieber and Crosby in the same place at the same time??
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 3 @ 10:46 AM ET
Randy Jones disagrees.
- Tomahawk


Randy Jones did not suck, so that is a bad retort on your part. What affected Randy Jones after he signed the contract was a hip injury that he never fully recovered from. Context is always required.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 3 @ 10:48 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Rinaldo Contract Extension, Prospect Updates, Quick Hits
- bmeltzer


I don't have the same issues with Rinaldo that others do. Rinaldo will never be Steve Ott, who to me is the ultimate agitator that brings solid faceoff work and penalty killing, which I've learned quickly still isn't enough to please this fan base. My issue with Rinaldo is lack of growth since his rookie year. I like Rinaldo but he has to bring more then smooth skating, big hits and fighting. I perfer he brings what Carcillo or Downie brings, which is a little more offense. Somewhere between 5 to 10 goals if healthy.
28Girouxsalem28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 08.09.2013

Sep 3 @ 10:49 AM ET
You might be right. Dont mistaken me for saying Rinaldo is the next Laperriere. I am just saying he's a decent 4th line guy. He isnt great, he isnt horrible either. We could have better. I agree with that.

Personally I would rather they play a 4th line of

Raffl-Laughton-Bellemare. Hows that for defense and mild skill?

- GOA88

Laughton needs at least 3rd line minutes. I'd rather him play 1st line centre in ahl then waste his talents on the fourth line playing 6 mins a game.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 3 @ 10:58 AM ET
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Anyway, I'm hoping him being signed for three years makes him easier to trade.

- Scoob


Glass half full.....I like it!
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 3 @ 10:59 AM ET
Laughton needs at least 3rd line minutes. I'd rather him play 1st line centre in ahl then waste his talents on the fourth line playing 6 mins a game.
- 28Girouxsalem28


There's no reason a 4th line has to play only 6 minutes a game. Lots of good teams like the Ducks and Blackhawks play their 4th lines more than that.

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 3 @ 10:59 AM ET
Randy Jones did not suck, so that is a bad retort on your part. What affected Randy Jones after he signed the contract was a hip injury that he never fully recovered from. Context is always required.
- MJL


Is that what you've been telling yourself all these years?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 3 @ 11:02 AM ET
There's no reason a 4th line has to play only 6 minutes a game. Lots of good teams like the Ducks and Blackhawks play their 4th lines more than that.


- Feanor


Exactly. And I think this is the disconnect with the whole Rinaldo thing.

People think of "4th line" and they think limited minutes or "energy" line. It can be more than that limited notion of what a "4th line" does. Furthermore, a good 4th line can limit wear and tear on your other lines.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 3 @ 11:04 AM ET
The police say they have had no dealings with Sid, and the Pens say he's in Colorado training. Great job, Sun.

EDIT: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=460894

- BulliesPhan87

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 3 @ 11:09 AM ET
There's no reason a 4th line has to play only 6 minutes a game. Lots of good teams like the Ducks and Blackhawks play their 4th lines more than that.


- Feanor



I'd like to see the Flyers 4th line play around 8-10 minutes a game on average. But I'd also like to see them have the ability to play more then that in certain game situations, such as 3rd periods with a 2 goal lead. I'd like to have a 4th line that can be trusted to play in a defensive checking role, rather then having to shorten the bench in that situation.
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