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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Sep 6 @ 5:22 PM ET


Vacation

- Jsaquella


Watching Arkansas St, eh
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 6 @ 5:23 PM ET
Even over Morin?

Honestly, looking at Morin, Sanheim, Ghost, NicNAK...I've got a really solid feeling about this prospect pool, for (quite litrilly) the first time in my?

- Giroux_Is_God


Yeah, Morin is a close third, Hagg and Ghost are right there as well.

I think Aube Kubel could be similar to Gagne, and I think Sanheim could be, in time, a Bouwmeester type defenseman. He's so fluid and mobile, decent size.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 6 @ 5:23 PM ET
Watching Arkansas St, eh
- ob18


Nope, saw it on twitter. I'm watching the Phils, because I am a masochist.

Actually, I'm lying. I have the Phils on TV, but I'm watching The League. I decided to binge watch that this week, and I'm up to season 4.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Sep 6 @ 5:25 PM ET
Nope, saw it on twitter. I'm watching the Phils, because I am a masochist
- Jsaquella


You must love torture, what's next the Sixers next season?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 6 @ 5:25 PM ET
Yeah, Morin is a close third, Hagg and Ghost are right there as well.

I think Aube Kubel could be similar to Gagne, and I think Sanheim could be, in time, a Bouwmeester type defenseman. He's so fluid and mobile, decent size.

- Jsaquella

Forgot Hagg in my list too.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 6 @ 5:26 PM ET
You must love torture, what's next the Sixers next season?
- ob18

love how the sixers are taking the exact approach that you constantly beg the flyers to take yet still you rip them
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Sep 6 @ 5:27 PM ET
love how the sixers are taking the exact approach that you constantly beg the flyers to take yet still you rip them
- Crimsoninja


They've been bad for a while, what other choice did they have?

They couldn't get any worse.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 6 @ 5:30 PM ET
They've been bad for a while, what other choice did they have?

They couldn't get any worse.

- ob18

they came within 1 game of making the eastern conference finals 2 seasons ago.

they couldve have kept jrue holiday instead of starting the rebuild
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 6 @ 5:32 PM ET
I've been a accused of a number of things.

I've been accused of being a fan of the Meatheads. The old Broad Street Bullies types, which is partly true. I like tough guys but I really like character guys like Jeremy Roenick, Chris Pronger and I felt Scott Hartnell brought a bit of personality himself. I've been accused of loving it when the Flyers bring back familiar faces, even though the team should move on, which is true. I've been accused of expecting too much of former superstars such as Lecavalier, which is only partly true.

I just saw RJ Umberger speak about his return to the Flyers and I really liked what he had to say. He wants to get back into the playoffs and win something. I'm sold with that kind of talk. He's a former Flyer talent, I wouldn't exactly call him Mr. Personality and if he ever was a star, his best days are probably behind him. While what he had to say softens the blow of losing a top line player, I really wish I could shake how I feel about how we brought him in. This is a new feeling for me because I was crazy happy to see Gagne, Knuble, Downie, Emery, Boucher, Prospal and Vandermeer return. Fedotenko and Umberger are probably the only two players I feel the time for their return is probably bad timing.

For Umberger, to me it won't be a lack of effort on his part but possibly a lack of talent. I don't believe he'll see much time on the top line if any. I just don't feel the money is right for him right now, regardless of when his contract runs out, which is one year shorter then Lecavalier, a little bit of a bigger cap hit, a long with a No-trade. I still wish the Flyers just allowed things to play out between Umberger and Columbus.

It's just a strange feeling I can't seem to shake. This isn't to say he isn't a talented more balanced player then Hartnell or can't help this team. I think Giroux's lack of Superstar like partner will always be a knock on Giroux.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 6 @ 7:04 PM ET
I think sometimes people get hung up on 4th line and look at it like it has to be a defense first line.

If I had the lines I posted initially, with 28 & 93 together, with a slight change having Raffl & Umberger as Laughton's wingers, I could see them playing more minutes than Bellemare-Vinny-Akeson line, which technically is 4th line for Vinny.

In reality, last year, the Lecavalier-Schenn-Simmonds line was the 3rd line, because the Read-Couturier line did so much heavy lifting.

- Jsaquella


It's not just about minutes, it's about what kind of minutes. How many offensive zone starts, and starts in prime offensive situations do you think a 4th line is going to get? Have to think about how a 4th line is going to be deployed and used. In my view, yea, a 4th line has to pretty much be a defense first line.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Sep 6 @ 7:44 PM ET
2 good ones to keep track of this season.
- ob18


2018-19 flyers: stanley cup champions.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Sep 6 @ 7:45 PM ET


Vacation

- Jsaquella


this. is. great.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Sep 6 @ 7:47 PM ET
2018-19 flyers: stanley cup champions.
- hammarby31


What's a few more years
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 6 @ 7:58 PM ET
Why not, looks like fun.

Schenn-Giroux-Simmonds
Umberger-Lecavalier-Voracek
Raffl-Couturier-Read
Rinaldo-Laughton-White
Rosehill

Grossmann-Coburn
MacDonald-Streit
Del Zotto-Schenn
Schulz

Mason
Emery
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Sep 6 @ 8:40 PM ET
What's a few more years
- ob18


It's been 34 for me. I can do another 5 in my sleep.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Sep 6 @ 8:41 PM ET
Why not, looks like fun.

Schenn-Giroux-Simmonds
Umberger-Lecavalier-Voracek
Raffl-Couturier-Read
Rinaldo-Laughton-White
Rosehill

Grossmann-Coburn
MacDonald-Streit
Del Zotto-Schenn
Schulz

Mason
Emery

- SuperSchennBros



I'm violating my stance on replying to line combo posts, but no bellemare, eh?

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Sep 6 @ 8:43 PM ET
I'm violating my stance on replying to line combo posts, but no bellemare, eh?
- hammarby31


And White who I believe just had Knee surgery
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM ET
And White who I believe just had Knee surgery
- ob18



pec surgery
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM ET
I'm violating my stance on replying to line combo posts, but no bellemare, eh?
- hammarby31

Likely to fade away as the season progresses.
ZaphodB
Joined: 10.21.2013

Sep 6 @ 10:48 PM ET
It's not just about minutes, it's about what kind of minutes. How many offensive zone starts, and starts in prime offensive situations do you think a 4th line is going to get? Have to think about how a 4th line is going to be deployed and used. In my view, yea, a 4th line has to pretty much be a defense first line.
- MJL


does anybody besides you actually give a (frank) what your views are?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 6 @ 10:51 PM ET
does anybody besides you actually give a (frank) what your views are?
- ZaphodB

I do. He brings actual value and perspective to a conversation. You on the other hand hold a grudge against someone you've never met over the internet. Weird.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Sep 6 @ 10:56 PM ET
And White who I believe just had Knee surgery
- ob18


Stick to juniors, Junior.
ZaphodB
Joined: 10.21.2013

Sep 6 @ 10:56 PM ET
I do. He brings actual value and perspective to a conversation. You on the other hand hold a grudge against someone you've never met over the internet. Weird.
- SuperSchennBros


he brings nothing but an over inflated ego and a need to beat other people over the head with his thoughts
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 6 @ 11:06 PM ET
he brings nothing but an over inflated ego and a need to beat other people over the head with his thoughts
- ZaphodB

A message board isn't meant to post your thoughts?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Sep 6 @ 11:12 PM ET
A message board isn't meant to post your thoughts?
- SuperSchennBros


you're arguing with the president of the galaxy !
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