Akeson with Vinny or else the Phantoms. He can't be a fourth liner in the traditional sense.
- NickTheKid87

I hear ya. Its just 4th lines are very traditional anymore. I think we need to get away from that.

Either way your still wrong. What makes PEB the more accomplished player? PEB is about to make a big step should he earn a spot.
- SuperSchennBros

He is saying that PEB now, is a more accomplished player compared to Raffl this time a year ago, and it is true.

Either way your still wrong. What makes PEB the more accomplished player? PEB is about to make a big step should he earn a spot.
- SuperSchennBros

PEB is a more accomplished player now, than Raffl was a year ago. This very simple, uncontroversial statement is understandable to everyone here but you.

Either way your still wrong. What makes PEB the more accomplished player? PEB is about to make a big step should he earn a spot.
- SuperSchennBros

Raffl was playing in the Swedish 2nd-tier league. Pedobear's been a star in the top league for years and has multiple championships.

PEB is a more accomplished player now, than Raffl was a year ago. This very simple, uncontroversial statement is understandable to everyone here but you.
- Feanor

Raffl has a point in the NHL playoffs though.

He is saying that PEB now, is a more accomplished player compared to Raffl this time a year ago, and it is true.
- jak521

Yes but to me this is like saying Tavares is more accomplished then Giroux.

Sanheim will be part of the defense corps by then.
- bmeltzer

Traded for Ryan Kesler after snider has Hexy abducted

Raffl was playing in the Swedish 2nd-tier league. Pedobear's been a star in the top league for years and has multiple championships.
- Tomahawk

Ville Leino also had international success before coming to the NHL.

Yes but to me this is like saying Tavares is more accomplished then Giroux.
- SuperSchennBros

Wait.. what?

It is nothing like that.

All we are saying is that if you had two players this off season, one of which was a SHL star and perennial power player on his National team, and the other is a Tier II Swedish leaguer, the odds are the SHL star has a higher pedigree.

Ville Leino also had international success before coming to the NHL.
- SuperSchennBros

Ooh I like this.

Ville Leino also had international success before coming to the NHL.
- SuperSchennBros

Yes, Ville Leino was more accomplished at the time he came over than Raffl, too.

Wait.. what?

It is nothing like that.

All we are saying is that if you had two players this off season, one of which was a SHL star and perennial power player on his National team, and the other is a Tier II Swedish leaguer, the odds are the SHL star has a higher pedigree.
- jak521

Fair enough. Dopita was once a player who was named the best player not playing in the NHL before we signed him. To me bringing players into the NHL means clean slate. I will admit to being entirely unaware of over seas success but we've seen this before in other players. Leino is another one. It means nothing.

Ville Leino also had international success before coming to the NHL.
- SuperSchennBros

Bellemare = Leino
Raffl = Tavares > Giroux

Am I doing this right?

Bellemare = Leino
Raffl = Tavares > Giroux

Am I doing this right?
- Streit2ThePoint

that's what he's saying, I think

Bellemare = Leino
Raffl = Tavares > Giroux

Am I doing this right?
- Streit2ThePoint

You forgot Dopita.

fighty fight fight

Fair enough. Dopita was once a player who was named the best player not playing in the NHL before we signed him. To me bringing players into the NHL means clean slate. I will admit to being entirely unaware of over seas success but we've seen this before in other players. Leino is another one. It means nothing.
- SuperSchennBros

Dude.. I dont know what you misread, but we are not saying that PEB will be the next NHL superstar.

All we are saying is that he is a very accomplished global player. He has had success in every league he has played in. Raffl was not nearly as accomplished.

DONE that was it.

NOW.. we have to wait and see how he does here. Maybe next summer we will reflect on this and say... crazy how terrible of a year Raffl had. Maybe we will say the same about PEB, but HOPEFULLY we can say they both are great fits for the Flyers.

You forgot Dopita.
- SuperSchennBros

Sorry.

[Bellemare = Leino = Dopita ] < [Raffl = Tavares > Giroux]

I'm going 5 3 flyers. I'm hoping the refs call a lot of penalties both ways to see the pp unit lol

Dude.. I dont know what you misread, but we are not saying that PEB will be the next NHL superstar.

All we are saying is that he is a very accomplished global player. He has had success in every league he has played in. Raffl was not nearly as accomplished.

DONE that was it.

NOW.. we have to wait and see how he does here. Maybe next summer we will reflect on this and say... crazy how terrible of a year Raffl had. Maybe we will say the same about PEB, but HOPEFULLY we can say they both are great fits for the Flyers.
- jak521

when you bring up superstardom and championships, it kind of sounds like you are bringing up the fact that he might become a superstar.

Dude.. I dont know what you misread, but we are not saying that PEB will be the next NHL superstar.

All we are saying is that he is a very accomplished global player. He has had success in every league he has played in. Raffl was not nearly as accomplished.

DONE that was it.

NOW.. we have to wait and see how he does here. Maybe next summer we will reflect on this and say... crazy how terrible of a year Raffl had. Maybe we will say the same about PEB, but HOPEFULLY we can say they both are great fits for the Flyers.
- jak521

Sorry.


- Streit2ThePoint[Bellemare = Leino = Dopita ] < [Raffl = Tavares > Giroux]

what's with the math contacts? Michael raffl was never compared to Claude Giroux or john Taveras.

when you bring up superstardom and championships, it kind of sounds like you are bringing up the fact that he might become a superstar.
- SuperSchennBros

That is where you need to buckle up and read with context.

Nobody is saying that the 29 year-old vet of over seas league is the next Giroux/Tavares.

Instead, we are suggesting he may be able to lock down a 4th line job without an AHL interview.

what's with the math contacts? Michael raffl was never compared to Claude Giroux or john Taveras.
- SuperSchennBros

[Bellemare = Leino = Dopita ] < [Raffl =/= Tavares > Giroux]

/Team PEB