MacDonald got that. Orpik got more.

Methot played 21:45 a game and was even on a bad defensive team while scoring 23 points. That's the market.
- Feanor

and people complain about what Coburn gets

Marc Methot is asking for 5 per from Ottawa? what am I missing here? 5 mil?
- nastyflyergirl

Can you imagine what a presumably healthy Mark Staal will be asking for on the open market if the Rags can't lock him up this season?

Can you imagine what a presumably healthy Mark Staal will be asking for on the open market if the Rags can't lock him up this season?
- Doc_Sarcasm

$7 mill maybe. Defensemen prices are skyrocketing.

$7 mill maybe. Defensemen prices are skyrocketing.
- NickTheKid87

By next summer, I honestly think that $7M is where the discussion is going to begin, and it will end somewhere north of that.

FWIW, Staal is making $3.975M this season.

http://www.broadstreethoc...in-flyers-draft-canadiens

I this what you were referring to?
- Doc_Sarcasm

Probably. But if they were interested in trading with the Flyers, they probably would have been interested in finding another partner to trade up with

By next summer, I honestly think that $7M is where the discussion is going to begin, and it will end somewhere north of that.

FWIW, Staal is making $3.975M this season.
- Doc_Sarcasm

That's a bargain. Coburn's deal is essentially a bargain at this point. Eventually the prices will have to come down, no?

That's a bargain. Coburn's deal is essentially a bargain at this point. Eventually the prices will have to come down, no?
- NickTheKid87

They only go up from here

and unnecessary once you've inked a long term commitment, mirite?
- BulliesPhan87

Depends on applicable clauses and ltir allowance.

They only go up from here
- Streit2ThePoint

and the teams that can't develop defensemen from within are going to get torched.

That's a bargain. Coburn's deal is essentially a bargain at this point. Eventually the prices will have to come down, no?
- NickTheKid87

being optimistical, they will go up less dramatically

being optimistical, they will go up less dramatically
- BulliesPhan87

That's what I mean more or less. Eventually the will stop going up relatively speaking. The actual number will rise but the ratio of cap hit:salary cap will slow, stop or reverse. Otherwise teams won't be able to pay enough players.

They only go up from here
- Streit2ThePoint

At least, until the owners decide to shut the league down again.

That's what I mean more or less. Eventually the will stop going up relatively speaking. The actual number will rise but the ratio of cap hit:salary cap will slow, stop or reverse. Otherwise teams won't be able to pay enough players.
- NickTheKid87

I don't think the increasing top heaviness is going to stop soon, but at some point push has to come to shove

I really have no qualms about the 2014 and 2012 drafts... coming out w/ Laughts and Sanheim at those mid-late positions is pretty incredible.

2013... I think they could have gotten more there. If they really dead set on Morin, trade back. If not, they could have taken any number of players who were safer + higher ceiling guys: Zadorov, Morrissey, Mantha, Lazar, etc at #11.
- Tomahawk

And if Morin turns out to be a flat out stud?

The Flyers may have gotten the best player at that draft spot.

I don't think the increasing top heaviness is going to stop soon, but at some point push has to come to shove
- BulliesPhan87

Forwards could become cheaper and goalies. Or players in general will be forced to sign lower contracts if they want to play in the NHL because teams simply won't be able to afford them.

At least, until the owners decide to shut the league down again.
- johndewar

this CBA is a 10 year deal, correct?

Forwards could become cheaper and goalies. Or players in general will be forced to sign lower contracts if they want to play in the NHL because teams simply won't be able to afford them.
- NickTheKid87

Middle class of NHL players are going to feel the crunch most likely. And really what Columbus is trying to do is what every team should do. A player shouldn't make huge top money, when they're at the bridge deal level. That should come when they're closer to being eligible for free agency.

this CBA is a 10 year deal, correct?
- Doc_Sarcasm

Something like that, sure.

They had the agent on TSN radio and he basically said that they would be willing to sign long or short term at the right number but he's looking at the centers that were signed over the summer by contending teams and has used several of those as comparables. He isn't signing what he considers a bad bridge deal. Sounds like they're not close at all. Doesn't sound like he thinks all the sound bites from Columbus is a bad thing.

He implied there's no deal on the table above 3.5 per
- mayorofangrytown

That's a bit low in my opinion. I would be comfortable giving Johansen 2 years 8-9 million, 6 years 33 million, or 8 years 48-52 million.

I wouldn't swap Morin for Lazar or Zadorov. Mantha would be nice with our lack of wing prospects.
- Feanor

I dunno... both of those guys are coming off incredible breakout seasons. They're saying Lazar has a chance to make the Sens out of camp. Both guys are ahead of Morin on the dev curve already.

I wish the Phantoms played a bit closer, they look like they're gonna be a good, competitive team
- Jsaquella

make the drive

I dunno... both of those guys are coming off incredible breakout seasons. They're saying Lazar has a chance to make the Sens out of camp. Both guys are ahead of Morin on the dev curve already.
- Tomahawk

That doesn't matter. What matters is where they finish up at.

Johansen is nuts. He's had one good year. And now he thinks way too much of himself. I hope the Bluejackets stick to their guns.
- MBFlyerfan

Johansen isn't that nuts. Those long term offers are a bit light to be honest. And I don't entirely blame him for turning down 2 years @ 6 mil either... but he cant really expect to get any more than 8 at the very most.

Johansen isn't that nuts. Those long term offers are a bit light to be honest. And I don't entirely blame him for turning down 2 years @ 6 mil either... but he cant really expect to get any more than 8 at the very most.
- hereticpride

He just finished his ELC. The offers Columbus has made are on par with the going rate. Johansson's agent has asked for twice as much.

He just finished his ELC. The offers Columbus has made are on par with the going rate. Johansson's agent has asked for twice as much.
- PhillySportsGuy

I agree. What's wrong with 2 years and 6M? That's a pretty substantial bridge deal.