c'mon, somebody argue about something

- -davies-

Maybe it's just the "official" statement about the whole thing? Or have the Flyers already done that? Like have Hextall and Kimmo at the same place to talk about the situation? If they've already done that… maybe this isn't so good.

Philadelphia Flyers @NHLFlyers
The #Flyers will hold a press conference today at 3:30pm at Flyers Skate Zone with GM Ron Hextall and Kimmo Timonen.

EDIT: leight
- BulliesPhan87

I think it'll be to say the timetable for his return is unknown but that he's doing well.

I think it'll be to say the timetable for his return is unknown but that he's doing well.
- NickTheKid87

Or he's retiring...

Per the Flyers, there will be a press conference at the Skate Zone regarding Timonen. Not sure if you heard...

Edit: At 3:30
- NickTheKid87

Why do I think this is either really good news, or really bad news, with the odds on the latter?

Retirement?

Or he's retiring...
- Tomahawk

at the very least, I expect we'll hear what the Flyers doctors have concluded

(insert Jim McCrossin jokes)

The bottom line, whether or not the mistake is drafting & developing a balanced team or handing out a truly awful contract that got erased by a mulligan, is did the team learn?

One could say that in the case of drafting & developing Holmgren did eventually correct his course. In the case of the Bryz deal being bad, it's debatable. He immediately used the cap space to sign long term deals with two veterans whose status by the end of the contracts would be questionable.

Mistakes are not a killer, failure to learn from them are
- Jsaquella

Good points.

I think the CBO was less of a mulligan and more of something Snider and Homer pushed for in the CBA negotiations. To me that IS taking personal resposibility and correcting a mistake.

Why do I think this is either really good news, or really bad news, with the odds on the latter?

Retirement?
- TheGreat28

it's the flyers. no way in hell it's good news.

it's the flyers. no way in hell it's good news.
- -davies-

Well it's not all doom and gloom -- Sid and Geno are both missing the start of training camp.

Jason Myrtetus @jasonmyrt
I am hearing Kimmo will announce his retirement from the NHL today. Blood clots that went to his lungs and on blood thinners made it happen

take it for what it's worth

Or he's retiring...
- Tomahawk

That is my feeling.

If Kimmo retires his cap hit comes off the books, right?

35+ contract

Jason Myrtetus @jasonmyrt
I am hearing Kimmo will announce his retirement from the NHL today. Blood clots that went to his lungs and on blood thinners made it happen

take it for what it's worth
- BulliesPhan87

That would be a shame. He'd be doing the team a real solid there, but not sure why he would walk away from 2M dollars. I wonder if the clots were in anyway caused by playing Hockey?

If Kimmo retires his cap hit comes off the books, right?

35+ contract
- KGBflyers10

Yes, his contract is not a 35+ contract.

If Kimmo retires his cap hit comes off the books, right?

35+ contract
- KGBflyers10

Yes, only multi-year contracts stay on

EDIT: leight

Yes, only multi-year contracts stay on

EDIT: leight
- BulliesPhan87

I hope he waits until after Pronger goes on LTIR to file his papers...

Would his contract be void if he couldn't be medically cleared? I was thinking he might retire. I am sure the Flyers will do him a soli keep him as a scout maybe in Finland or some player development coach. Depending on where he is going to live.

Would his contract be void if he couldn't be medically cleared? I was thinking he might retire. I am sure the Flyers will do him a soli keep him as a scout maybe in Finland or some player development coach. Depending on where he is going to live.
- J35Bacher

CSN, Panotch and few other saying it is not about retirement.

In a shocking twitst, it turns out it was entirely Bruce Boudreau's fault

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- BulliesPhan87

everything is that (frank)ing guy's fault.

CSN, Panotch and few other saying it is not about retirement.
- MBFlyerfan

I hate Panotch. Maybe he isn't retiring. That was just what i was thinking.

That would be a shame. He'd be doing the team a real solid there, but not sure why he would walk away from 2M dollars. I wonder if the clots were in anyway caused by playing Hockey?
- MJL

Hard to say, I don't know a heck of a lot about blood clots. If he does walk away from the money, it speaks to his character.

There's two guys I truly regret didn't get a ring in Philadelphia: Kimmo, and Roy Halladay

Why do I think this is either really good news, or really bad news, with the odds on the latter?

Retirement?
- TheGreat28

Every time one of these things comes up it's always a bunch of nothing. Maybe that means this will be different.

Which reminds me, remember Pronger's awhile back? When the beats were speculating that he'll make a comeback and that's why he wasn't retire? THey had no clue how the CBA worked with 35+ deals. It was embarrassing.

That would be a shame. He'd be doing the team a real solid there, but not sure why he would walk away from 2M dollars. I wonder if the clots were in anyway caused by playing Hockey?
- MJL

Supposing no trades and they wanted to max out prongers ltir as much as possible... Wouldn't it be more beneficial to have kimmo retire on October 2nd? Just thinking aloud here.

I hope he waits until after Pronger goes on LTIR to file his papers...
- Tomahawk

Not sure that matters.

Supposing no trades and they wanted to max out prongers ltir as much as possible... Wouldn't it be more beneficial to have kimmo retire on October 2nd? Just thinking aloud here.
- moylander

I don't have the exact numbers but I don't think so. I think the League would smell something fishy if they did that.