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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 19 @ 12:50 PM ET
Obviously he's no Giroux but I think he could fill in admirably as 1C for a bit if he needs too. Jake would have to do the Lion's share of puck carrying but I think we could get by for a little while.
- JonnyHammerstix


Exactly.

Schenn could either move back to center and they could move another winger up to help Vinny with controlling the puck.

They have options. I just wish they didn't have to exercise any of them.

And truthfully, if this was gonna happen, I'd prefer it happen now, rather than closer to the home opener.

This franchise is well overdue for some good luck.
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Sep 19 @ 12:50 PM ET

- -davies-


Time for Vinny to pull a Malkin
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 19 @ 12:53 PM ET
Exactly.

Schenn could either move back to center and they could move another winger up to help Vinny with controlling the puck.

They have options. I just wish they didn't have to exercise any of them.

And truthfully, if this was gonna happen, I'd prefer it happen now, rather than closer to the home opener.

This franchise is well overdue for some good luck.

- johndewar

Read Schenn Jake
Akeson Coots Simmonds
Umberger Laughton Vinny
Raffl Bellemere Rinaldo

That aint pretty
AGL_91
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ON
Joined: 06.29.2013

Sep 19 @ 1:00 PM ET
Time to focus on D

Schenn-Vinny-Voracek
Read-Coots-Simmer
Umberger-Laughton-Akeson
Raffl-PEB-Rinaldo

Coots and Laughton Line have to be air tight on the D. You cab shift Raffl in when needed. Then hope Vinny line scores alot and produces on pp.

lotta ifs there
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 19 @ 1:01 PM ET
Read Schenn Jake
Akeson Coots Simmonds
Umberger Laughton Vinny
Raffl Bellemere Rinaldo

That aint pretty

- hereticpride


I don't think they're gonna make Vinny play wing.

They'll make Brayden Schenn play wing.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 19 @ 1:01 PM ET
I don't think they're gonna make Vinny play wing.

They'll make Brayden Schenn play wing.

- johndewar

Either way... woof.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 19 @ 1:14 PM ET
Either way... woof.
- hereticpride


Woof, indeed.
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Sep 19 @ 1:14 PM ET
Better to be safe than sorry with the first real game almost three weeks away.
- Feanor



Absolutely. My gut tells me that he'll be fine but you don't take unnecessary risks with your franchise player. And honestly him sitting out a preseason game or 2 isn't necessarily a bad thing. With G you know what he is, he has a defined role on the team and battling no one for position in the lineup. This will give another kid like Laughton some extra reps in games to show what he is made of.
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Sep 19 @ 1:15 PM ET
Exactly.

Schenn could either move back to center and they could move another winger up to help Vinny with controlling the puck.

They have options. I just wish they didn't have to exercise any of them.

And truthfully, if this was gonna happen, I'd prefer it happen now, rather than closer to the home opener.

This franchise is well overdue for some good luck.

- johndewar


Definately
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Sep 19 @ 1:18 PM ET
Even ANGEL is chirping:


David Boreanaz ‏@David_Boreanaz 2m

C'mon guys we all know @28CGiroux left the ice to catch reruns of @BONESonFOX ...he will be back shortly. #FirstDay28

- MBFlyerfan


Shortly? The Bones reruns on Fox never stop. We may never see him again.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 19 @ 1:24 PM ET
If they have to go into the regular season with Giroux on IR (god forbid!), I would try these lines:

Raffl-VLC-Voracek
This gives Vinnie exactly what he needs to be successful. 2 wingers that can fly and carry the puck, one who is a very good playmaker and one who is strong defensively and can work the corners.

Read-Couturier-Simmonds
Seems like they are already planning to go with this line and I see no reason to change it. Odds are that this line would get the most ES ice time.

Umberger-Schenn-Akeson
If you are going to play Schenn in the middle, you need at least one winger who can work the wall and is solid defensively (Umberger) and one who can make plays with the puck and set him up (Akeson)

Bellemare-Laughton-Rinaldo
Perfectly acceptable NHL 4th line, IMO.


bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Sep 19 @ 1:28 PM ET
12-10-93
24-14-17
18-40-42
36-Bellemare-Stortini
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Sep 19 @ 1:29 PM ET
If they have to go into the regular season with Giroux on IR (god forbid!), I would try these lines:

Raffl-VLC-Voracek
This gives Vinnie exactly what he needs to be successful. 2 wingers that can fly and carry the puck, one who is a very good playmaker and one who is strong defensively and can work the corners.

Read-Couturier-Simmonds
Seems like they are already planning to go with this line and I see no reason to change it. Odds are that this line would get the most ES ice time.

Umberger-Schenn-Akeson
If you are going to play Schenn in the middle, you need at least one winger who can work the wall and is solid defensively (Umberger) and one who can make plays with the puck and set him up (Akeson)

Bellemare-Laughton-Rinaldo
Perfectly acceptable NHL 4th line, IMO.

- BiggE


Kinda more interested in B Schenn becoming successful, than pandering to an aging veteran who has lost a few steps.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 19 @ 1:30 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Timonen, Training Camp Opens, Quick Hits
- bmeltzer

I'm gonna keep saying it. It doesn't matter how big or small the injury, Giroux is too heavily relied on for this team. The idea of losing him is scary. The Flyers need another impact player in my opinion.Whether it's from within the organization or outside, they need a guy who can somewhat handed the offensive load without Giroux on some nights. Take Forsberg playing with Gagne and Knuble for example. If Forsberg was unable to go, I still had confidence in Gagne playing with Knuble and anyone who was in between them. Simmonds is a really good complimentary player but will not lead the charge. Read and Schenn I feel can make things happen but I'm not sure can lead the charge. Voracek is are second most gifted offensive threat but I feel he needs help.

I will not say Bobby Ryan is that guy because I don't see him leading the charge but he's better then what we have in my opinion and probably the only player of impact available. If other players become available I most certainly would look into them. You won't wanna give up assets but I would consider walking away from one of Hagg or Gostisbehere, a high draft pick and a roster player to worry a little less.

Feel free to rip me.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
Kinda more interested in B Schenn becoming successful, than pandering to an aging veteran who has lost a few steps.
- bradleyc4

This.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 19 @ 1:32 PM ET
I'm gonna keep saying it. It doesn't matter how big or small the injury, Giroux is too heavily relied on for this team. The idea of losing him is scary. The Flyers need another impact player in my opinion.Whether it's from within the organization or outside, they need a guy who can somewhat handed the offensive load without Giroux on some nights. Take Forsberg playing with Gagne and Knuble for example. If Forsberg was unable to go, I still had confidence in Gagne playing with Knuble and anyone who was in between them. Simmonds is a really good complimentary player but will not lead the charge. Read and Schenn I feel can make things happen but I'm not sure can lead the charge. Voracek is are second most gifted offensive threat but I feel he needs help.

I will not say Bobby Ryan is that guy because I don't see him leading the charge but he's better then what we have in my opinion and probably the only player of impact available. If other players become available I most certainly would look into them. You won't wanna give up assets but I would consider walking away from one of Hagg or Gostisbehere, a high draft pick and a roster player to worry a little less.

Feel free to rip me.

- SuperSchennBros


I have no problem trying to land another superstar forward, but I just don't think Bobby Ryan is that good nor worth giving up a top prospect, a roster player and a 1st for at the present time.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 19 @ 1:33 PM ET
Kinda more interested in B Schenn becoming successful, than pandering to an aging veteran who has lost a few steps.
- bradleyc4


I'd be find with flipping Schenn and VLC in my lines. I think they are actually, style wise, similar type players.
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Sep 19 @ 1:34 PM ET
If they have to go into the regular season with Giroux on IR (god forbid!), I would try these lines:

Raffl-VLC-Voracek
This gives Vinnie exactly what he needs to be successful. 2 wingers that can fly and carry the puck, one who is a very good playmaker and one who is strong defensively and can work the corners.

Read-Couturier-Simmonds
Seems like they are already planning to go with this line and I see no reason to change it. Odds are that this line would get the most ES ice time.

Umberger-Schenn-Akeson
If you are going to play Schenn in the middle, you need at least one winger who can work the wall and is solid defensively (Umberger) and one who can make plays with the puck and set him up (Akeson)

Bellemare-Laughton-Rinaldo
Perfectly acceptable NHL 4th line, IMO.

- BiggE



I have a reeeeally good feeling about this guy. From everything I've heard about him so far I think he's going to be a very good addition for the Flyers this year. The Flyers actually have the pieces to put together a really good 4th line for a change.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Sep 19 @ 1:34 PM ET
I have no problem trying to land another superstar forward, but I just don't think Bobby Ryan is that good nor worth giving up a top prospect, a roster player and a 1st for at the present time.
- BiggE

I agree. I think we all need to relax here. If Giroux is out it probably is'nt long and I'm sure Vinny OR Schenn could fill in for a few games if need be. Im not worried.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 19 @ 1:34 PM ET
12-10-93
24-14-17
18-40-42
36-Bellemare-Stortini

- bradleyc4

I actually love the look for that fourth line of Rinaldo, Bellemare and Akeson. I would really like to get Powe into the mix over White but I'm unsure if Powe is what he was back in 2010.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 19 @ 1:36 PM ET
Kinda more interested in B Schenn becoming successful, than pandering to an aging veteran who has lost a few steps.
- bradleyc4

I'm kind of caught in the middle, but lean towards using Schenn. However, if Lecavalier is ever gonna perform at a level near his paycheck
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 19 @ 1:36 PM ET
I have no problem trying to land another superstar forward, but I just don't think Bobby Ryan is that good nor worth giving up a top prospect, a roster player and a 1st for at the present time.
- BiggE

I'm not suggesting that is what we should give up for Ryan. I'm suggesting that is what I'd be willing to give up for another superstar player.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 19 @ 1:37 PM ET
I agree. I think we all need to relax here. If Giroux is out it probably is'nt long and I'm sure Vinny OR Schenn could fill in for a few games if need be. Im not worried.
- GOA88


Exactly.

In a perfect world, it would certainly be nice to have Bobby Ryan on the roster. However, even if they could figure a way to fit his 5.1 million cap hit onto the roster, he's just not worth what it would likely cost to trade for him.

Now going into next season, if they can move VLC, and if they feel the need to upgrade on the wing, sure, perhaps they go after him in free agency. Now however, is not the time.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 19 @ 1:37 PM ET
I have no problem trying to land another superstar forward, but I just don't think Bobby Ryan is that good nor worth giving up a top prospect, a roster player and a 1st for at the present time.
- BiggE

The word superstar & the name Bobby Ryan are not synonymous
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 19 @ 1:38 PM ET
I'm not suggesting that is what we should give up for Ryan. I'm suggesting that is what I'd be willing to give up for another superstar player.
- SuperSchennBros


Sorry, misunderstood.

Either way, I very much doubt, at this time of year, any team is going to be looking to trade a superstar forward.
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