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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 20 @ 11:51 AM ET
One thing I've just noticed, and maybe this tells us something about Hextall's faith in the current roster or maybe it doesn't, but we didn't bring in one vet on a tryout. Hextall really does seem intent on letting every draft pick get their fair chance.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 20 @ 11:53 AM ET
I think AMac and Coburn will be a good top defensive pairing at 5 on 5. I will definitely prefer Streit over AMac on the top PP though.
- hereticpride


There's no doubt that Streit will be on the top pp unit.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 20 @ 12:00 PM ET
One thing I've just noticed, and maybe this tells us something about Hextall's faith in the current roster or maybe it doesn't, but we didn't bring in one vet on a tryout. Hextall really does seem intent on letting every draft pick get their fair chance.
- hereticpride


I like that. Why let a guy come in and audition for 29 other teams while taking time away from one of your own kids trying to make the team?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 20 @ 12:25 PM ET
Why do you think mdz will rebound? Motivated by a new contract? I just worry that there has to have been a reason that he was not re signed.
- Hextall271



When I read about what happened to him, I can totally empathize with losing confidence in something you KNOW you do well. His whole world was a whirlwind last season. Scapegoated, benched, traded with baggage, no chance to get rid of baggage in new town. That weighs you down.

Fresh start for a team that wants him......Its not like he forgot how to play hockey.

Redemption, and the motivation to shove it up the jacksie of those who doubted you can be powerful motivators.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Sep 20 @ 12:27 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/tea...6&hubname=nhl-maple_leafs
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Sep 20 @ 12:29 PM ET
When I read about what happened to him, I can totally empathize with losing confidence in something you KNOW you do well. His whole world was a whirlwind last season. Scapegoated, benched, traded with baggage, no chance to get rid of baggage in new town. That weighs you down.

Fresh start for a team that wants him......Its nation to shove it ot like he forgot how to play hockey.

Redemption, and the motivation to shove it up the jacksie of those who doubted you can be powerful motivators.

- MBFlyerfan


You and your "I refuse to expect the worst" mentality don't belong here.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 20 @ 12:31 PM ET
You and your "I refuse to expect the worst" mentality don't belong here.
- tangent_man

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 20 @ 12:35 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/story/?id=462136&hubname=nhl-maple_leafs
- Pixote Andolini

Dead last in Toronto. They're in first place for fan satisfaction in 29 other cities in North America. That I'm sure of.


Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 20 @ 12:48 PM ET
When I read about what happened to him, I can totally empathize with losing confidence in something you KNOW you do well. His whole world was a whirlwind last season. Scapegoated, benched, traded with baggage, no chance to get rid of baggage in new town. That weighs you down.

Fresh start for a team that wants him......Its not like he forgot how to play hockey.

Redemption, and the motivation to shove it up the jacksie of those who doubted you can be powerful motivators.

- MBFlyerfan


I can see that. We really need him to find his game so I pray you're right.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 20 @ 12:50 PM ET
I like that. Why let a guy come in and audition for 29 other teams while taking time away from one of your own kids trying to make the team?
- Jsaquella


I like it too. This is part of the philosophy Hextall has preached since he became GM. Even if we have growing pains, let the young guys get the experience.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 20 @ 12:54 PM ET
So it looks like one of the games on Monday will be televised. Are the rosters for each game that night predetermined or will Berube decide that this weekend?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 20 @ 1:00 PM ET
When I read about what happened to him, I can totally empathize with losing confidence in something you KNOW you do well. His whole world was a whirlwind last season. Scapegoated, benched, traded with baggage, no chance to get rid of baggage in new town. That weighs you down.

Fresh start for a team that wants him......Its not like he forgot how to play hockey.

Redemption, and the motivation to shove it up the jacksie of those who doubted you can be powerful motivators.

- MBFlyerfan


3/5 of his career seasons were considered "good" ones... people forget that this isn't a guy like Mase who was one and out up to now, or somebody like Fat Schenn who's never come even close to meeting expectations. He's been a really good dman for most of his career, under a very demanding coach, on a very structured team.

The fact he couldn't find work even in a market where mad money was being thrown at dudes like Stoner, Engelland and Orpik is probably less of a reflection on his ability to bounce back, and more an indictment of NHL GM's and their collective myopia.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 20 @ 1:03 PM ET
3/5 of his career seasons were considered "good" ones... people forget that this isn't a guy like Mase who was one and out up to now, or somebody like Fat Schenn who's never come even close to meeting expectations. He's been a really good dman for most of his career, under a very demanding coach, on a very structured team.

The fact he couldn't find work even in a market were mad money was being thrown at dudes like Stoner, Engelland and Orpik is probably less of a reflection on his ability to bounce back, and more an indictment of NHL GM's and their collective myopia.

- Tomahawk


In related new, I plan on naming my garage band "Collective Myopia".

/I have no musical talent
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Sep 20 @ 1:05 PM ET
Del Zotto will be a STEAL for this team.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 20 @ 1:36 PM ET
Del Zotto will be a STEAL for this team.
- KGBflyers10

Here's hoping. He'll have every shot here to get back on track.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Sep 20 @ 2:08 PM ET
The concern I have with Giroux's injury is that if it's a groin, those can be tricky. Hope it doesn't turn into something that nags him all year long.

If one is into omens or bad signs, it doesn't get much worse than an injury to the one guy who is totally irreplaceable in the organization.

- Jsaquella


Give him a golf club, the injury would have taken less time.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 20 @ 3:05 PM ET
I just hope that some of these guys who really pushed themselves on the conditioning front over the summer haven't become more injury prone as a result in the early going.
- Tomahawk


So you think the players coming into camp in top condition and in very good shape is going to cause more injuries?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 20 @ 3:39 PM ET
Del Zotto will be a STEAL for this team.
- KGBflyers10

I'm interested in seeing exactly how he'll be used. Yes I understand he's not great defensively. Yes I understand that he'll likely be used in mostly offensive situation but John Tortorella did like Del Zotto. He did somewhat use him in some defensive situations like the PK. I'm not suggesting he'll get that kind of ice time but having Del Zotto and Streit on one team is interesting.
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Sep 20 @ 3:39 PM ET
This team is cursed there is no other explanation.
Whats the Jewish equivalent of an exorcism?
Do we need a witch doctor? Voodoo ? Who broke the mirror and walked under the ladder years ago ?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 20 @ 3:43 PM ET
This team is cursed there is no other explanation.
Whats the Jewish equivalent of an exorcism?
Do we need a witch doctor? Voodoo ? Who broke the mirror and walked under the ladder years ago ?

- Steelmanpa

http://24.media.tumblr.co...4ko953EI1rk5wnbo1_500.gif
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Sep 20 @ 3:44 PM ET
Scotty just scored his second goal of gsme 6 to tie the Hawks....im going to miss that guy
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Sep 20 @ 3:52 PM ET
http://24.media.tumblr.co...4ko953EI1rk5wnbo1_500.gif
- Crimsoninja


Say hello to the bad guy ...I guess that's a better catchphrase then no show.. .

Damn..too much wrestling.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Sep 20 @ 4:05 PM ET
The bold scares me a lot. I just don't see the performance value.

Schenn-Giroux-Voracek ($15,025,000)
Read-Couturier-Simmonds ($9.350,000)
Umberger-Lecavalier-Raffl ($10,200,00)
Akeson-Bellemare-Rinaldo ($1,925,00)

MacDonald-Coburn ($9,500,000)
Grossmann-Streit ($8,750,000)
Schenn-Del Zotto ($4,900,000)

Mason-Emery ($5,100,00)
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Sep 20 @ 4:06 PM ET
Scotty just scored his second goal of gsme 6 to tie the Hawks....im going to miss that guy
- KINGKENZO


That line was so sexy.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 20 @ 4:26 PM ET
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