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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 22 @ 2:42 PM ET
Not considered by who? The geniuses at HF who think Cousins is our 5th best prospect.
- Feanor




KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Sep 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
Check out Madam Secretary. Pretty cool show.
- MJL

Tea Leoni stinks
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:44 PM ET
So you'd say that Ghost already has top 4 skating a puck skills? If that's true, we're in a good spot with him if he only needs a year or two in the A to refine his game.
- Hextall271


I think he does. The guy just oozed offensive skill. Now, I'm not saying he's ready for top-4 NHL duty now, or that he'll definitely be in 2 years, or that he ever will be. He could be the next Danny Syvret. But I think he's ready for NHL duty in 2 years as a bottom-pair, PP QB who can grow into a top-4 player in 3-4 years.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:44 PM ET
You're bringing me down man... They haven't even played the first preseason game and you're dumping on our prospects.
- mayorofangrytown


I'm not dumping, I'm just trying to keep things in check. I'm very excited about these guys but I also realize that it's unreasonable to believe they'll be the backbone of a Cup contender. We've got some potentially valuable pieces but they're by no means the solution.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 22 @ 2:45 PM ET
LETS GET THIS SEASON STARTED!!!!

I was going to buy tickets for the London since I live here but the price they are charging is ridiculous $100 to see some rookies and a couple vets no thanks. Guess I'm planning out my road trip to PHILLY

- Bigjohnston


I'm a season ticket holder, so there's nothing worse than laying down ~$100 per seat on a preseason game. It's highway robbery.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:46 PM ET
You're bringing me down man... They haven't even played the first preseason game and you're dumping on our prospects.
- mayorofangrytown


It's how some get through the day by making it completely negative.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 22 @ 2:48 PM ET
It's how some get through the day by making it completely negative.
- ob18

PLindTheKid87, Dumper Extraordinaire
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:49 PM ET
It's how some get through the day by making it completely negative.
- ob18


It's not negativity, it's realism. I'm just as excited as the next guy but sometimes our imaginations run away with themselves. Ideally, the FLyers future defense would be anchored by two legit top pairing dmen in Sanheim and Morin with the elite offensive skills of Ghost and the good two way ability of Hagg but we don't live in an ideal world.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:50 PM ET
Crazy, because you think the Devils would want to do something like this with the Flyers to bring revenue (even a little revenue from concession sales) to the franchise.

OTOH, Josh Harris should be used to owning a team that makes less money and draws less fans than the Flyers.

- johndewar


what on earth could the reason be?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:51 PM ET
I will take my chances on these young guys any day than overpay for a FA or trade. But I just looks like people are getting ahead of themselves with these young players.
- NickTheKid87


None of these young guys have ever played in an NHL regular season game, so I don't think people can say either way. They could all end up as Oskars Bartulis/Andy Sutton, or they could all be Eric Desjardins/Chris Pronger. All I know is that, for once, we have some serious top-end potential with our D prospects.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:52 PM ET
None of these young guys have ever played in an NHL regular season game, so I don't think people can say either way. They could all end up as Oskars Bartulis/Andy Sutton, or they could all be Eric Desjardins/Chris Pronger. All I know is that, for once, we have some serious top-end potential with our D prospects.
- jmatchett383


I agree, which is why I'm saying that we should keep in the middle. Don't assume they'll be busts or superstars. Expect what's probable. I guess we're getting into ideological territory though.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:54 PM ET
None of these young guys have ever played in an NHL regular season game, so I don't think people can say either way. They could all end up as Oskars Bartulis/Andy Sutton, or they could all be Eric Desjardins/Chris Pronger. All I know is that, for once, we have some serious top-end potential with our D prospects.
- jmatchett383


every single one of them is going to be better than bobby orr. the flyers are going to have to unretire barry ashbee's number so they can fight over it.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:56 PM ET
It's not negativity, it's realism. I'm just as excited as the next guy but sometimes our imaginations run away with themselves. Ideally, the FLyers future defense would be anchored by two legit top pairing dmen in Sanheim and Morin with the elite offensive skills of Ghost and the good two way ability of Hagg but we don't live in an ideal world.
- NickTheKid87


But you also don't believe otherwise until things develop a bit further along, they are still years away, nobody has a clue what will happen with them and their development.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 22 @ 2:57 PM ET
every single one of them is going to be better than bobby orr. the flyers are going to have to unretire barry ashbee's number so they can fight over it.
- hammarby31

can't wait until they're all playing sixty minutes a game, feeding robby bryan goal after goal after goal
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 22 @ 2:58 PM ET

- johndewar


It's just fans voting, but the Flyers board at HFB had this as our top 10 back in July.

1. Samuel Morin - 39.34%
2. Scott Laughton - 39.25%
3. Shayne Gostisbehere - 64.55%
4. Travis Sanheim - 83.64%
5. Robert Hagg - 79.81%
6. Anthony Stolarz - 66.27%
7. Nicolas Aube-Kubel - 55.43%
8. Jason Akeson - 31.00%
9. Taylor Leier - 50.72%
10. Mark Alt - 68.84%
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Sep 22 @ 2:58 PM ET
I'm not dumping, I'm just trying to keep things in check. I'm very excited about these guys but I also realize that it's unreasonable to believe they'll be the backbone of a Cup contender. We've got some potentially valuable pieces but they're by no means the solution.
- NickTheKid87

What makes it unreasonable? It's September 2014. Who know what the future holds? It's just as unrealistic to believe they won't develop as there's just supposition, extrapolation and guess work being done at this point.

We have all season to complain about the players on the ice and why Giroux can't seem to start the season healthy.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:58 PM ET
But you also don't believe otherwise until things develop a bit further along, they are still years away, nobody has a clue what will happen with them and their development.
- ob18


Why would you not believe otherwise? The ideal scenario is not the most probable. I choose to believe the most probable and that falls somewhere between the ideal and the "SNAFU" scenario.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:58 PM ET
can't wait until they're all playing sixty minutes a game, feeding robby bryan goal after goal after goal
- BulliesPhan87


Flobby Flyan rules.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Sep 22 @ 2:59 PM ET
What makes it unreasonable? It's September 2014. Who know what the future holds? It's just as unrealistic to believe they won't develop as there's just supposition, extrapolation and guess work being done at this point.

We have all season to complain about the players on the ice and why Giroux can't seem to start the season healthy.

- mayorofangrytown


It's unreasonable to believe that the extreme outcomes of a scenario will occur.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Sep 22 @ 3:00 PM ET
Why would you not believe otherwise? The ideal scenario is not the most probable. I choose to believe the most probable and that falls somewhere between the ideal and the "SNAFU" scenario.
- NickTheKid87


I know it's not ideal, but again we have no idea in reality what will happen, so I won't go all or even partial negative about them or their development.

You seem to have already done it, enough for many of us.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Sep 22 @ 3:00 PM ET
can't wait until they're all playing sixty minutes a game, feeding robby bryan goal after goal after goal
- BulliesPhan87


it will be glorious.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Sep 22 @ 3:01 PM ET
It's unreasonable to believe that the extreme outcomes of a scenario will occur.
- NickTheKid87

Why?
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Sep 22 @ 3:01 PM ET
I know it's not ideal, but again we have no idea in reality what will happen, so I won't go all or even partial negative about them or their development.

You seem to have already done it, enough for many of us.

- ob18


Considering all outcomes, especially the most probable, is not being negatively solely because I refuse to only consider the ideal outcome.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Sep 22 @ 3:02 PM ET
Why?
- mayorofangrytown


The extreme outcomes of a given scenario are less likely to occur than something in the middle.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Sep 22 @ 3:04 PM ET
Considering all outcomes, especially the most probable, is not being negatively solely because I refuse to only consider the ideal outcome.
- NickTheKid87


And yet or anybody here has now way of 100% knowing what the ideal outcome will be YEARS down the road.
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