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prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 23 @ 12:31 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Preseason Game Day (@ TOR), Split Squad Recap, Rookies Game
- bmeltzer



Given that they generally split goaltending doodies for preseason games, and it was played in London, I'm a little surprised they didn't give Mason any time.

It was also kind of entertaining seeing the Leaf goalie with Flyers pads for the second half of the game.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 23 @ 12:31 PM ET
Wow.

I just don't feel that hockey needs to be marketed as a spectacle, and the fans don't need to be pandered to.

- Tomahawk

don't lie the lingerie football league is awesome
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 23 @ 12:34 PM ET
OB and I use it. He talked me into it and off of Center Ice. They have home and away feeds for all NHL games in HD. I watch it on my Roku and my iphone. I use the web interface occasionally and I needed it to watch WHL games last season as they didn't stream on the Roku. The AHL games are mostly the in house feed married with the radio call. All games are archived.

I had Center Ice for years and although I occasionally run into issues with Hockeystreams it's usually over things that I wouldn't get on Center Ice. The shear volume of options far out distances any quirks I've run into.

- mayorofangrytown


Does HS have an iOS app? Searched for it last night, no dice.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 23 @ 12:34 PM ET
Given that they generally split goaltending doodies for preseason games, and it was played in London, I'm a little surprised they didn't give Mason any time.

It was also kind of entertaining seeing the Leaf goalie with Flyers pads for the second half of the game.

- prock


Stolarz was the goalie in London this past year and they expect him to play at the AHL level this year, so I'm not surprised they let Stolarz have that game.

They play Toronto tonight at the ACC, so Mason will probably start tonight and go 2 periods.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 23 @ 12:36 PM ET
OB and I use it. He talked me into it and off of Center Ice. They have home and away feeds for all NHL games in HD. I watch it on my Roku and my iphone. I use the web interface occasionally and I needed it to watch WHL games last season as they didn't stream on the Roku. The AHL games are mostly the in house feed married with the radio call. All games are archived.

I had Center Ice for years and although I occasionally run into issues with Hockeystreams it's usually over things that I wouldn't get on Center Ice. The shear volume of options far out distances any quirks I've run into.

- mayorofangrytown

I've been using dthe android hockeycast app (to stream the game to a chromecast) recently and it's pretty excellent.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 23 @ 12:36 PM ET
Does HS have an iOS app? Searched for it last night, no dice.
- Tomahawk

never used HS but maybe you can stream directly from their website
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 23 @ 12:36 PM ET
"going over to the other side"? Anyways, I don't disagree this would've been a fine solution, I just don't think the current solution is sexist, or at the very least nowhere near as sexist as what we had previously.

(and before somebody gets upset and calls me a SJW, no I'm not saying having ice girls was the most sexist, terrible thing ever)

- BulliesPhan87


I'm not really saying sexist, more like they were SO AFRAID of having girls on the crew that they said, "Screw it, we're only gonna use guys." To basically make it a non-factor.

I couldn't care less who does the ice scraping, just seems odd that it's a 100% male contingent.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 23 @ 12:37 PM ET
I've been using dthe android hockeycast app (to stream the game to a chromecast) recently and it's pretty excellent.
- BulliesPhan87


Is it only mobile? Can I watch it the archaic way, on a computer?
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Sep 23 @ 12:37 PM ET
Does HS have an iOS app? Searched for it last night, no dice.
- Tomahawk

no, but they have a mobile version of the site.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
Drouin out 3-4 weeks
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Sep 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
Not sure what the issue girl issue is. Bunch of minority politically correct morons.
- flyer_nutter

The issue was with the hours, pay and treatment of the women doing the job. The Flyers didn't want any part of the crap that was coming so they got out in front of it. The presentation from the Delta Dental Ice Girls to what they have been running out there the last few years was spiraling down the drain.

To me it was embarrassing. You know what I need in my life? A picture with 10 girls young enough to be my daughters paid to be dressed in something just north of a bikini. I guess I'll just never understand that thinking. Why would you be grinning over that picture like it was some accomplishment?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Sep 23 @ 12:40 PM ET
The issue was with the hours, pay and treatment of the women doing the job. The Flyers didn't want any part of the crap that was coming so they got out in front of it. The presentation from the Delta Dental Ice Girls to what they have been running out there the last few years was spiraling down the drain.

To me it was embarrassing. You know what I need in my life? A picture with 10 girls young enough to be my daughters paid to be dressed in something just north of a bikini. I guess I'll just never understand that thinking. Why would you be grinning over that picture like it was some accomplishment?

- mayorofangrytown


Wouldn't it be possible for them to do a lawsuit now? Assuming all of the female workers got removed from the job?

Not sure how all this works in the US.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 23 @ 12:41 PM ET
no, but they have a mobile version of the site.
- aightwebang17


I might go w HS this year and send the streams through Plex to my TV.

(or just stick with free /r/hockey scrapes)
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 23 @ 12:41 PM ET
Wouldn't it be possible for them to do a lawsuit now? Assuming all of the female workers got removed from the job?

Not sure how all this works in the US.

- flyer_nutter


It wasn't a paid job, to the best of my knowledge.

Also, I believe Pennsylvania is an "at will" state, meaning they can fire you "at will" even if you've done nothing wrong.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 23 @ 12:43 PM ET
Is it only mobile? Can I watch it the archaic way, on a computer?
- jmatchett383

yeah, you can definitely watch in a browser. I only mention the chromecast thingy because it's new this season.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 23 @ 12:43 PM ET
Wouldn't it be possible for them to do a lawsuit now? Assuming all of the female workers got removed from the job?

Not sure how all this works in the US.

- flyer_nutter


I think dismantling the ice girl concept was to head off a future incident/lawsuit.

I think it's funny people booed last night (what did everyone expect?), but ultimately, people will stop caring about it by Christmas. Especially if the team is any good.

The one negative thing that COULD come of this.....local gentleman's establishments having their girls outside the arena handing out advertisements for their place to capitalize on this publicity (these places HAVE done this in the past). I take my 8 YO son to games......he doesn't need to see that.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 23 @ 12:45 PM ET
https://www.linkedin.com/...uette-of-boorish-behavior

where's crims?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 23 @ 12:46 PM ET
I might go w HS this year and send the streams through Plex to my TV.

(or just stick with free /r/hockey scrapes)

- Tomahawk

wiziwig or first row sports
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 23 @ 12:46 PM ET
The issue was with the hours, pay and treatment of the women doing the job. The Flyers didn't want any part of the crap that was coming so they got out in front of it. The presentation from the Delta Dental Ice Girls to what they have been running out there the last few years was spiraling down the drain.

To me it was embarrassing. You know what I need in my life? A picture with 10 girls young enough to be my daughters paid to be dressed in something just north of a bikini. I guess I'll just never understand that thinking. Why would you be grinning over that picture like it was some accomplishment?

- mayorofangrytown


They should really switch it up and allow kids (along with adults) to come out and do it. It would probably be a thrill for them.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 23 @ 12:50 PM ET
They should really switch it up and allow kids (along with adults) to come out and do it. It would probably be a thrill for them.
- PhillySportsGuy


I've read elsewhere that some minor league teams have local hockey youth groups scrape the ice.

Much better idea, IMO.
mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Sep 23 @ 12:50 PM ET
I was glad to see Raff-El of Krypton and his nemesis Stolzar finally be able to coexist on the same team.

- MBFlyerfan


Thank you for this. Man that was annoying to listen to
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Sep 23 @ 12:51 PM ET
They should really switch it up and allow kids (along with adults) to come out and do it. It would probably be a thrill for them.
- PhillySportsGuy




They should use umpa lumpas in flyers jersey's to clear the ice.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Sep 23 @ 12:51 PM ET
They should use umpa lumpas in flyers jersey's to clear the ice.
- J35Bacher


Only if they sang songs
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 23 @ 12:52 PM ET
I've read elsewhere that some minor league teams have local hockey youth groups scrape the ice.

Much better idea, IMO.

- johndewar


Yeah and the fans, even the crazy ones, won't boo children
mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Sep 23 @ 12:59 PM ET
I maintain Steve Downie could have cleared 3 6-inch steps.

Edit: Stop it at the 11 second mark. His entire body is about even with the top of the boards.

- jmatchett383


The worst part of that replay, for me, is that when the scrum ensues, dudes are just falling on top of and all over a completely out-cold Dean McAmmond. Like, no one thought to just nudge him out of the way a little bit. What if someone was pushed down onto his neck or something? Could have been even worse for him. Scary to think about.
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