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Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Sep 23 @ 4:31 PM ET
He managed 8 goals on a team that had a record low for goal scoring. I doubt he ends up with less this season.

And shhhhhhhhhh...don't jinx him!

- HonkFortheGoose


I hope he scores 16 goals that would be pretty impressive for his second season
hammatoe
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.13.2007

Sep 23 @ 5:11 PM ET
Canes roster for tonight from their site.


Tlusty-Jo. Staal-Boychuk
Gerbe-Nash-Shugg
McGinn-Rask-Nemisz
Woods-Sutter-Ja. Staal

Hainsey-Faulk
Gleason-Liles
Jordan-Rissanen

Khudobin
MacIntyre

- cabin


Wish we could watch it. Don't really understand why they won't broadcast all of these games...

sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Sep 23 @ 5:16 PM ET
Wish we could watch it. Don't really understand why they won't broadcast all of these games...
- hammatoe


The last one was on MSG Time Warner. Maybe this one will be.
hammatoe
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.13.2007

Sep 23 @ 5:19 PM ET
The last one was on MSG Time Warner. Maybe this one will be.
- sippyd


It was on there because NHL network carried it apparently. This one is radio only from everything I am seeing.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 23 @ 5:21 PM ET
The last one was on MSG Time Warner. Maybe this one will be.
- sippyd



Sounds like neither Buffalo's nor Carolina's TV affiliate are televising this one.
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Sep 23 @ 5:27 PM ET
Sounds like neither Buffalo's nor Carolina's TV affiliate are televising this one.
- buffalofan19


Bummer.
hammatoe
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.13.2007

Sep 23 @ 5:30 PM ET
Sounds like neither Buffalo's nor Carolina's TV affiliate are televising this one.
- buffalofan19


Right - just checked the new app and it states no TV tonight...9/26 is televised as is 9/28 & 10/1 but not 10/3...at least not at the moment according to the app...so both Carolina games will be radio only...
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 23 @ 5:32 PM ET
Sounds like neither Buffalo's nor Carolina's TV affiliate are televising this one.
- buffalofan19

Just saw your location again. Johnson had a big week in San Fran. He caught 9 of 9 throws his way. Him in single coverage should be lethal
fattyboubatty
St Louis Blues
Location: st louis, MO
Joined: 12.09.2006

Sep 23 @ 6:17 PM ET
Enroth was better than Miller last year. Stewart isn't really that good ( http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=60174 ).
- Ryan_Wilson


It's funny because I knew Stewart was horrible possession wise before I even started paying attention to advanced stats. He's that bad.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 23 @ 6:42 PM ET
Just saw your location again. Johnson had a big week in San Fran. He caught 9 of 9 throws his way. Him in single coverage should be lethal
- sbroads24



As much as I rag on EJ Manuel, I haven't even noticed that he's been gone this year.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Sep 23 @ 6:48 PM ET
Just saw your location again. Johnson had a big week in San Fran. He caught 9 of 9 throws his way. Him in single coverage should be lethal
- sbroads24



Until his groin tears
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 23 @ 6:49 PM ET
As much as I rag on EJ Manuel, I haven't even noticed that he's been gone this year.
- buffalofan19

I wouldn't have if they play Mike Williams who is just as good
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 23 @ 6:49 PM ET
Until his groin tears
- Buffalo-Sabres

Racist
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Sep 23 @ 7:02 PM ET
I wonder how Rick is doing?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 23 @ 7:07 PM ET
I wonder how Rick is doing?
- Buffalo-Sabres


I was wondering that myself the other day.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Sep 23 @ 7:09 PM ET
No link Hockey female doges ?

I can't see it listed on any of the usuals..
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Sep 23 @ 7:09 PM ET
I was wondering that myself the other day.
- HonkFortheGoose



With the whole Jim Kelly thing I'm surprised the Rick story has been absent all summer.

Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Sep 23 @ 7:10 PM ET
No link Hockey female doges ?

I can't see it listed on any of the usuals..

- Pairo11



We don't beleive home or away is broadcasting it.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Sep 23 @ 7:11 PM ET
We don't beleive home or away is broadcasting it.
- Buffalo-Sabres

Thanks !
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Sep 23 @ 7:14 PM ET
We already sound infinitely better than Sunday night.
SabresPanacea
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.16.2014

Sep 23 @ 7:18 PM ET
It's funny because I knew Stewart was horrible possession wise before I even started paying attention to advanced stats. He's that bad.
- fattyboubatty


I will take a guy that will probably score 25 to 30 goals with bad advanced stats. This is exactly why some of these stats are sometimes more pointless than Freddy Kreuger trying punch his clown.

I agree that advanced stats can be useful with large sample sizes on certain things. But these players are never on the ice alone. And they are not on the ice under the same circumstances, against the same players, or for the same purposes.That's why IMO many of these stats can be somewhat misleading at times, or dead on at times. But I do not believe that they should be adorned as some hockey gospel.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 23 @ 7:33 PM ET
I will take a guy that will probably score 25 to 30 goals with bad advanced stats. This is exactly why some of these stats are sometimes more pointless than Freddy Kreuger trying punch his clown.

I agree that advanced stats can be useful with large sample sizes on certain things. But these players are never on the ice alone. And they are not on the ice under the same circumstances, against the same players, or for the same purposes.That's why IMO many of these stats can be somewhat misleading at times, or dead on at times. But I do not believe that they should be adorned as some hockey gospel.

- SabresPanacea


A guy like Stewart is fine on a team that's got a lot of other really good players around him. He's probably not going to score 25-30 goals here because we lack puck possession guys. You need to have the puck in order to create scoring. See the correlation here?

I'm not saying that advanced stats are the be all end all, but they are important in their own right and shouldn't just be pushed to the side and ignored.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Sep 23 @ 7:44 PM ET
No link Hockey female doges ?

I can't see it listed on any of the usuals..

- Pairo11



Working on it

No luck
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Sep 23 @ 8:10 PM ET
Pysyk absent
SabresPanacea
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.16.2014

Sep 23 @ 8:15 PM ET
A guy like Stewart is fine on a team that's got a lot of other really good players around him. He's probably not going to score 25-30 goals here because we lack puck possession guys. You need to have the puck in order to create scoring. See the correlation here?

I'm not saying that advanced stats are the be all end all, but they are important in their own right and shouldn't just be pushed to the side and ignored.

- HonkFortheGoose

I am taking 10 goals off of what would have been his projections based on past performance. I think that is a pretty fair assessment. If you think it will be more than that you must also think that Stafford, Ennis and Hodgson would be 40 goal scorers on other teams with better players around them and better puck possesion. See the correlation there?

Also,
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