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rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Sep 23 @ 8:45 PM ET
I created my team the other day. Haven't picked anyone yet though. The new layout is terrible
- HonkFortheGoose



Agreed. I am hoping the Capt. EO sees everyone's frustration with the new format and tells IT to change it back.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 23 @ 8:47 PM ET
Agreed. I am hoping the Capt. EO sees everyone's frustration with the new format and tells IT to change it back.
- rmiethaner


I was just looking at the players. I tend to pick my goalies first and work from there. It seems like all the guys that have 3 games the first week are also the ones with the highest cap hit. And they're matchups are all really tough.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Sep 23 @ 8:48 PM ET
You shouldn't be let out without your helmet.
- SabresPanacea


You need to chill out ,
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Sep 23 @ 8:49 PM ET
I was just looking at the players. I tend to pick my goalies first and work from there. It seems like all the guys that have 3 games the first week are also the ones with the highest cap hit. And they're matchups are all really tough.
- HonkFortheGoose



That is pretty much what I do as well. Start with goalies, then defense. Cheap. The problem I had this year was trying to find Stamkos. I sorted by name to find him, but then I could not sort back by last year's pts and had to start over.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Sep 23 @ 8:50 PM ET
Yes, I am doing it. I saw you had a great year and won your division. Last year was my worst year since joining the site. Did not make the playoffs.

I saw on the Fantasy thread that they messed up the playoff schedule, I think because of the Olympics, and people got screwed. At least you got something out of the season. Congrats!

- rmiethaner


Thanks .. Thats what it was .. olympics They used a previous week roster and threw it in the playoffs. When no hockey was playing .

This year i'm Cabins Misfits
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 23 @ 8:51 PM ET
Hi, Todd!!!!

ToddKac is back!

- rmiethaner



Nah...not enough 's
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Sep 23 @ 8:52 PM ET
Agreed. I am hoping the Capt. EO sees everyone's frustration with the new format and tells IT to change it back.
- rmiethaner


It's too lite. and if using IE it expands.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Sep 23 @ 8:54 PM ET
Thanks .. Thats what it was .. olympics They used a previous week roster and threw it in the playoffs. When no hockey was playing .

This year i'm Cabins Misfits

- cabin



I wonder if the format will be different for the score sheet as well once the games begin and we can't post our lineups in the thread. I always like seeing what other people chose.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Sep 23 @ 8:55 PM ET
Nah...not enough 's
- buffalofan19



Good point.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Sep 23 @ 8:57 PM ET
I wonder if the format will be different for the score sheet as well once the games begin and we can't post our lineups in the thread. I always like seeing what other people chose.
- rmiethaner


Sure ya can

Left Wing Salary
James van Riemsdyk
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $4,250,000
Mason Raymond
CGY vs VAN, EDM, STL $3,150,000
Chris Kreider
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $2,475,000
Max Pacioretty
MON vs TOR, WAS, PHI $4,500,000
Center Salary
Nazem Kadri
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $2,900,000
Claude Giroux
PHI vs BOS, NJ, MON $8,275,000
Derek Stepan
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $3,075,000
Jeff Carter
LA vs SJ, ARI, WPG $5,272,727
Right Wing Salary
Devin Setoguchi
CGY vs VAN, EDM, STL $750,000
Lee Stempniak
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $900,000
Wayne Simmonds
PHI vs BOS, NJ, MON $3,975,000
Justin Williams
LA vs SJ, ARI, WPG $3,650,000
Defense Salary
Mark Stuart
WPG vs ARI, SJ, LA $2,625,000
Morgan Rielly
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $894,167
P.K. Subban
MON vs TOR, WAS, PHI $9,000,000
Jake Muzzin
LA vs SJ, ARI, WPG $1,000,000
Dougie Hamilton
BOS vs PHI, DET, WAS $894,167
Matt Bartkowski
BOS vs PHI, DET, WAS $1,250,000
Goaltenders Salary
Jonathan Bernier
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $2,900,000
Carey Price
MON vs TOR, WAS, PHI $6,500,000
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 23 @ 8:58 PM ET
It's too lite. and if using IE it expands.
- cabin


I liked how your whole team plus the list of players all fit on one screen before. Now I have to keep scrolling around to see it all.

If it's not broke, don't fix it.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Sep 23 @ 8:59 PM ET
Sure ya can

Left Wing Salary
James van Riemsdyk
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $4,250,000
Mason Raymond
CGY vs VAN, EDM, STL $3,150,000
Chris Kreider
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $2,475,000
Max Pacioretty
MON vs TOR, WAS, PHI $4,500,000
Center Salary
Nazem Kadri
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $2,900,000
Claude Giroux
PHI vs BOS, NJ, MON $8,275,000
Derek Stepan
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $3,075,000
Jeff Carter
LA vs SJ, ARI, WPG $5,272,727
Right Wing Salary
Devin Setoguchi
CGY vs VAN, EDM, STL $750,000
Lee Stempniak
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $900,000
Wayne Simmonds
PHI vs BOS, NJ, MON $3,975,000
Justin Williams
LA vs SJ, ARI, WPG $3,650,000
Defense Salary
Mark Stuart
WPG vs ARI, SJ, LA $2,625,000
Morgan Rielly
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $894,167
P.K. Subban
MON vs TOR, WAS, PHI $9,000,000
Jake Muzzin
LA vs SJ, ARI, WPG $1,000,000
Dougie Hamilton
BOS vs PHI, DET, WAS $894,167
Matt Bartkowski
BOS vs PHI, DET, WAS $1,250,000
Goaltenders Salary
Jonathan Bernier
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $2,900,000
Carey Price
MON vs TOR, WAS, PHI $6,500,000

- cabin



Hahaha. Nice! I love this lineup. I might have to make a few tweaks myself. Hope we are not in the same division.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Sep 23 @ 9:00 PM ET
I liked how your whole team plus the list of players all fit on one screen before. Now I have to keep scrolling around to see it all.

If it's not broke, don't fix it.

- HonkFortheGoose



Yeah it needs some tweaking . It could work but takes forever to load.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Sep 23 @ 9:00 PM ET
Hahaha. Nice! I love this lineup. I might have to make a few tweaks myself. Hope we are not in the same division.
- rmiethaner

I will do the same before game time .

Still have to check the injury report
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Sep 23 @ 9:12 PM ET
I will do the same before game time .

Still have to check the injury report

- cabin



That is key. I don't think anyone on your roster has any problems. Just looked at my roster. If I played you, you would have more man games than I. Going to try to post my line up.....



Left Wing

Salary

 James van Riemsdyk
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $4,250,000
 Mats Zuccarello
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $3,500,000
 Max Pacioretty
MON vs TOR, WAS, PHI $4,500,000
 Jamie Benn
DAL vs CHI, NAS $5,250,000







Center

Salary

 Steven Stamkos
TB vs FLA, OTT $7,500,000
 Anze Kopitar
LA vs SJ, ARI, WPG $6,800,000
 Tyler Seguin
DAL vs CHI, NAS $5,750,000
 Nathan MacKinnon
COL vs MIN, MIN $925,000







Right Wing

Salary

 Vladimir Tarasenko
STL vs NYR, CGY $900,000
 Lee Stempniak
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $900,000
 Wayne Simmonds
PHI vs BOS, NJ, MON $3,975,000
 Justin Williams
LA vs SJ, ARI, WPG $3,650,000








Defense

Salary

 Victor Hedman
TB vs FLA, OTT $4,000,000
 Radko Gudas
TB vs FLA, OTT $991,667
 Ryan McDonagh
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $4,700,000
 Jake Muzzin
LA vs SJ, ARI, WPG $1,000,000
 Mark Giordano
CGY vs VAN, EDM, STL $4,020,000
 Dougie Hamilton
BOS vs PHI, DET, WAS $894,167









Goaltenders

Salary

 Jonathan Bernier
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $2,900,000
 Ben Bishop
TB vs FLA, OTT $2,300,000

A little messed up. lol
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 23 @ 9:17 PM ET
That is key. I don't think anyone on your roster has any problems. Just looked at my roster. If I played you, you would have more man games than I. Going to try to post my line up.....



Left Wing

Salary

 James van Riemsdyk
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $4,250,000
 Mats Zuccarello
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $3,500,000
 Max Pacioretty
MON vs TOR, WAS, PHI $4,500,000
 Jamie Benn
DAL vs CHI, NAS $5,250,000

Center
 Steven Stamkos
TB vs FLA, OTT $7,500,000
 Anze Kopitar
LA vs SJ, ARI, WPG $6,800,000
 Tyler Seguin
DAL vs CHI, NAS $5,750,000
 Nathan MacKinnon
COL vs MIN, MIN $925,000

Right Wing
 Vladimir Tarasenko
STL vs NYR, CGY $900,000
 Lee Stempniak
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $900,000
 Wayne Simmonds
PHI vs BOS, NJ, MON $3,975,000
 Justin Williams
LA vs SJ, ARI, WPG $3,650,000

Defense
 Victor Hedman
TB vs FLA, OTT $4,000,000
 Radko Gudas
TB vs FLA, OTT $991,667
 Ryan McDonagh
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $4,700,000
 Jake Muzzin
LA vs SJ, ARI, WPG $1,000,000
 Mark Giordano
CGY vs VAN, EDM, STL $4,020,000
 Dougie Hamilton
BOS vs PHI, DET, WAS $894,167

Goaltenders
 Jonathan Bernier
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $2,900,000
 Ben Bishop
TB vs FLA, OTT $2,300,000

A little messed up. lol

- rmiethaner



Here's what I have at the moment. I haven't looked at any injury reports. But I'll check them before the 1st week starts.

Left Wing Salary
James van Riemsdyk
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $4,250,000
Mats Zuccarello
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $3,500,000
Chris Kreider
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $2,475,000
Brad Marchand
BOS vs PHI, DET, WAS $4,500,000

Center Salary
Bryan Little
WPG vs ARI, SJ, LA $4,700,000
Nazem Kadri
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $2,900,000
Jeff Carter
LA vs SJ, ARI, WPG $5,272,727
Patrice Bergeron
BOS vs PHI, DET, WAS $6,500,000

Right Wing Salary
Devin Setoguchi
CGY vs VAN, EDM, STL $750,000
Lee Stempniak
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $900,000
Wayne Simmonds
PHI vs BOS, NJ, MON $3,975,000
Brendan Gallagher
MON vs TOR, WAS, PHI $685,000

Defense Salary
Cody Franson
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $3,300,000
Kimmo Timonen
PHI vs BOS, NJ, MON $2,000,000
Ryan McDonagh
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $4,700,000
Jake Muzzin
LA vs SJ, ARI, WPG $1,000,000
Dougie Hamilton
BOS vs PHI, DET, WAS $894,167
Zdeno Chara
BOS vs PHI, DET, WAS $6,916,667

Goaltenders Salary
Jonathan Bernier
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $2,900,000
Carey Price
MON vs TOR, WAS, PHI
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Sep 23 @ 9:24 PM ET
Here's what I have at the moment. I haven't looked at any injury reports. But I'll check them before the 1st week starts.

Left Wing Salary
James van Riemsdyk
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $4,250,000
Mats Zuccarello
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $3,500,000
Chris Kreider
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $2,475,000
Brad Marchand
BOS vs PHI, DET, WAS $4,500,000

Center Salary
Bryan Little
WPG vs ARI, SJ, LA $4,700,000
Nazem Kadri
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $2,900,000
Jeff Carter
LA vs SJ, ARI, WPG $5,272,727
Patrice Bergeron
BOS vs PHI, DET, WAS $6,500,000

Right Wing Salary
Devin Setoguchi
CGY vs VAN, EDM, STL $750,000
Lee Stempniak
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $900,000
Wayne Simmonds
PHI vs BOS, NJ, MON $3,975,000
Brendan Gallagher
MON vs TOR, WAS, PHI $685,000

Defense Salary
Cody Franson
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $3,300,000
Kimmo Timonen
PHI vs BOS, NJ, MON $2,000,000
Ryan McDonagh
NYR vs STL, CLB, TOR $4,700,000
Jake Muzzin
LA vs SJ, ARI, WPG $1,000,000
Dougie Hamilton
BOS vs PHI, DET, WAS $894,167
Zdeno Chara
BOS vs PHI, DET, WAS $6,916,667

Goaltenders Salary
Jonathan Bernier
TOR vs MON, PIT, NYR $2,900,000
Carey Price
MON vs TOR, WAS, PHI

- HonkFortheGoose


Yeah, I really like this lineup too. If you can get a full roster of max game players, that usually works out. I forgot about Gallagher and his salary. That is a good one.
Dr3aMWeav3r
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Human Paraquat, VA
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 23 @ 9:27 PM ET
LOL! WHICH GAME WERE YOU WATCHING? YOU'RE A DERP, FOR REAL. I SAW THE WHOLE THING ON AND OFF WITH THE SOUND MUTED ON MY COMPOOTER. Going to Richmond tomorrow?
- Dr3aMWeav3r


To set the record straight, this was a response to my brother's post. He and I both lurk in these forums mostly, and I never see him post so when I saw it, I thought I'd mess with him. He went to the game and I had to watch it from my dorm room, so being jealous, I wanted to give him some poop. But it just goes to show, I write something about hockey around here, no one discusses really; I troll my brother, I'm the most popular guy in here for an hour .
Anyway, looks like the 1st line will be our primary(sole) source of offense
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Sep 23 @ 9:27 PM ET
Sweet .. Reimer and Goosie. Gonna be another fun season.

cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Sep 23 @ 9:29 PM ET
To set the record straight, this was a response to my brother's post. He and I both lurk in these forums mostly, and I never see him post so when I saw it, I thought I'd mess with him. He went to the game and I had to watch it from my dorm room, so being jealous, I wanted to give him some poop. But it just goes to show, I write something about hockey around here, no one discusses really; I troll my brother, I'm the most popular guy in here for an hour .
Anyway, looks like the 1st line will be our primary(sole) source of offense

- Dr3aMWeav3r

Well now we know Could have mentioned that a couple days ago.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 23 @ 9:30 PM ET
Yeah, I really like this lineup too. If you can get a full roster of max game players, that usually works out. I forgot about Gallagher and his salary. That is a good one.
- rmiethaner


That's usually my game plan. Start with goalies. Top 2 D. In a normal week, I try to fill my roster with as many guys as possible that have 4 games. But for a bit of variety, I'll take some that have 3.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Sep 23 @ 9:34 PM ET
To set the record straight, this was a response to my brother's post. He and I both lurk in these forums mostly, and I never see him post so when I saw it, I thought I'd mess with him. He went to the game and I had to watch it from my dorm room, so being jealous, I wanted to give him some poop. But it just goes to show, I write something about hockey around here, no one discusses really; I troll my brother, I'm the most popular guy in here for an hour .
Anyway, looks like the 1st line will be our primary(sole) source of offense

- Dr3aMWeav3r


I don't think that there is much to discuss about the first line being the primary source of offense. Pretty much a given.

Edit: Unless line combos are changed up because of really good chemistry and the second line takes advantage of playing against weaker lines.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Sep 23 @ 9:37 PM ET
That's usually my game plan. Start with goalies. Top 2 D. In a normal week, I try to fill my roster with as many guys as possible that have 4 games. But for a bit of variety, I'll take some that have 3.
- HonkFortheGoose



I think that was my downfall last year. Trying a new system of playing the better players instead of man games.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 23 @ 9:41 PM ET
I think that was my downfall last year. Trying a new system of playing the better players instead of man games.
- rmiethaner


I just missed the playoffs. Had 1 loss too many. There were a few weeks I missed setting my lineup. Got lucky once or twice and won anyway. But it still bit me in the end and I just missed out.
SabresPanacea
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.16.2014

Sep 23 @ 9:42 PM ET
No. Actually, I don't. But thanks for trying to put words in my mouth.
- HonkFortheGoose

That's where you logic leads to. No surprise that you don't see that.
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