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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 25 @ 12:21 AM ET
He's just one of those players who had to get moved in order to fulfill his potential. It has happened before and will happen again. Maybe he would've become consistent in Philadelphia, but TBH, I saw what the Flyers saw: A talented player who seemed content with being an NHL player but not driven enough to be a top-line player.

Sometimes, getting moved is the best thing that can happen to a player.

I mean, look at Dallas. They didn't trade 40-goal James Neal AND 50-point Matt Niskanen. They traded inconsistent James Neal and inconsistent Matt Niskanen, and they gave them numerous opportunities to be difference-makers for them before they pulled the trigger.

- AllInForFlyers


Neal was a 30 goal scorer for Dallas. I think van Riemsdyk could have had success here, and I do think the Flyers soured on him too quickly.

That said, he was inconsistent here. They had issues because he stayed at UNH longer than they wanted. They had issues because he didn't always use his size and strength as effectively as he has.

I think there's blame for both the player and team there. My biggest issue is, value wise, it looks like the Flyers failed to get enough for him.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 25 @ 12:22 AM ET
Good omen for the year. Walking around in center city. Just bumped into G, B Schenn, Read, Simmons, waffle, Amac Streit and Rosehill. They were super nice all posed for a group shot with my 10 yrold.
- FlyersFirst

Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 25 @ 12:23 AM ET

- SuperSchennBros

haha cool, i missed that post


once again coburn gets snubbed
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 25 @ 12:23 AM ET
Neal was a 30 goal scorer for Dallas. I think van Riemsdyk could have had success here, and I do think the Flyers soured on him too quickly.

That said, he was inconsistent here. They had issues because he stayed at UNH longer than they wanted. They had issues because he didn't always use his size and strength as effectively as he has.

I think there's blame for both the player and team there. My biggest issue is, value wise, it looks like the Flyers failed to get enough for him.

- Jsaquella

Everyone knew we didn't get fair value at the time too.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 25 @ 12:24 AM ET
haha cool, i missed that post


once again coburn gets snubbed

- Crimsoninja

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 25 @ 12:25 AM ET
Everyone knew we didn't get fair value at the time too.
- SuperSchennBros


There was still hope that Schenn could still become a steadier defenseman. It seems he's going to battle consistency awhile longer.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 25 @ 12:25 AM ET
Just a question I wanted to ask earlier. Do you guys have any games circled on your calender that you guys plan on going to?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 25 @ 12:27 AM ET
Just a question I eant to ask earlier. Do you guys have any games circled on your calender that you guys plan on going to?
- SuperSchennBros


Nope.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Sep 25 @ 1:21 AM ET
Neal was a 30 goal scorer for Dallas. I think van Riemsdyk could have had success here, and I do think the Flyers soured on him too quickly.

That said, he was inconsistent here. They had issues because he stayed at UNH longer than they wanted. They had issues because he didn't always use his size and strength as effectively as he has.

I think there's blame for both the player and team there. My biggest issue is, value wise, it looks like the Flyers failed to get enough for him.

- Jsaquella


He was a Ranger fan. Let's hope Sanheim can avoid the same torn allegiance
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 25 @ 1:32 AM ET
Just a question I wanted to ask earlier. Do you guys have any games circled on your calender that you guys plan on going to?
- SuperSchennBros

Tuesday Dec. 2 in San Jose
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Sep 25 @ 1:32 AM ET
Neal was a 30 goal scorer for Dallas. I think van Riemsdyk could have had success here, and I do think the Flyers soured on him too quickly.

That said, he was inconsistent here. They had issues because he stayed at UNH longer than they wanted. They had issues because he didn't always use his size and strength as effectively as he has.

I think there's blame for both the player and team there. My biggest issue is, value wise, it looks like the Flyers failed to get enough for him.

- Jsaquella


they didn't get enough. gave up way too soon - like williams and sharp (yes, i know they weren't 2nd overall picks). you can't have luke schenn be the prize for earning 12 points in 2006-7. you just (frank)ing can't. and yet, we do.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Sep 25 @ 1:33 AM ET
Just a question I wanted to ask earlier. Do you guys have any games circled on your calender that you guys plan on going to?
- SuperSchennBros


i need to see when they're in phoenix, denver, and dallas...might take some road trips from ABQ.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 25 @ 1:43 AM ET
Tuesday Dec. 2 in San Jose
- 2Real

Yep Tuesday October 21 in Chicago
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 25 @ 1:52 AM ET
i need to see when they're in phoenix, denver, and dallas...might take some road trips from ABQ.
- hammarby31

Tues Dec. 2 San Jose
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Sep 25 @ 2:03 AM ET
Just a question I wanted to ask earlier. Do you guys have any games circled on your calender that you guys plan on going to?
- SuperSchennBros


December 27- Nashville
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Sep 25 @ 2:36 AM ET
i need to see when they're in phoenix, denver, and dallas...might take some road trips from ABQ.
- hammarby31


Make sure to get some hockey tape while you're there
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Sep 25 @ 5:29 AM ET
Would love to get a ticket to the game vs Minny 11/20. Will be in town that night, also think it is the game they are honoring lindros and leclair.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 25 @ 7:11 AM ET
Neal was a 30 goal scorer for Dallas. I think van Riemsdyk could have had success here, and I do think the Flyers soured on him too quickly.

That said, he was inconsistent here. They had issues because he stayed at UNH longer than they wanted. They had issues because he didn't always use his size and strength as effectively as he has.

I think there's blame for both the player and team there. My biggest issue is, value wise, it looks like the Flyers failed to get enough for him.

- Jsaquella


One thing I said when we traded him is that we didn't get enough. It should have been Schenn and maybe a 2nd or a serviceable young forward. 1 for 1 was too little even though it was forward for d and d are normally valued higher.
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