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LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 25 @ 5:56 PM ET
The only option is to send Markstrom down and he will be picked up on waiver.
- Yeti1181

No - it's not the only option.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 25 @ 5:57 PM ET
No - it's not the only option.
- LeftCoaster

Meant to say other option I edited it.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 25 @ 5:57 PM ET
Very good potential, packaging him with say a Hansen would bring a better return...maybe?
- LeftCoaster


Who knows, but as others have mentioned you can't get much for a goalie these days. If that's the case then I would believe a GM could pick up a competent goalie for nothing so why fret about developing one?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 25 @ 5:59 PM ET
The only option is to send Markstrom down and he will be picked up on waiver.
Edit: other option.

- Yeti1181


Holy (frank), if that happened what would the Luongo trade look like (as if it wasn't bad enough already)?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 25 @ 6:01 PM ET
Who knows, but as others have mentioned you can't get much for a goalie these days. If that's the case then I would believe a GM could pick up a competent goalie for nothing so why fret about developing one?
- bloatedmosquito

Goaltenders/players are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them. A team like Winnipeg who doesn't really have anything coming up in terms of goaltending and currently isn't thrilled with their goaltending could make a pitch for him and let him share the load with what's his name (Pavelec).
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 25 @ 6:02 PM ET
Holy (frank), if that happened what would the Luongo trade look like (as if it wasn't bad enough already)?
- bloatedmosquito

Well you could caray three goalies but honestly thats pretty bad too. I can see someone taking a chance with him but it's going to to be a 3 rd, or 4th round coming back.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 25 @ 6:02 PM ET
No - it's not the only option.
- LeftCoaster


If Markstrom has little to no value you gotta look at moving Lack or holding onto all 3 until injuries hit other teams. Leafs want to move Reimer as well.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Sep 25 @ 6:02 PM ET
Nucker, I noticed you indicated that two of the pool team's players have all been put back into free agency. I think this gives the rest of the teams who are not picking in the first fiver a great disadvantage. i.e. Crosby is available, as is Bergeron, as is Vanek, Pk Subban and so forth and that is unfair to the others - and there are at least 5-10 TOP talents available, who will obviously be scooped up by those who finished in the bottom 10.

Any thoughts on this? I just want to make sure we're all playing on a level field

Disclaimer: yes, I know I'm being a bit of a wienerhead since I finished in the higher tier

Edit: sorry Nucker, I know you've got enough sh*t to deal with
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Sep 25 @ 6:03 PM ET
He hasn't completely earns a full time job yet (Lack), that's how it works with goaltenders, look at Lehner in Ottawa. Rarely does a young goaltender get the number one spot without a bit of a apprenticeship, 41 games doesn't quite cut it IMO.
- LeftCoaster

i don't disagree, just don't see why someone said they'd get rid of him because of the very reason you just said
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 25 @ 6:03 PM ET
Goaltenders/players are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them. A team like Winnipeg who doesn't really have anything coming up in terms of goaltending and currently isn't thrilled with their goaltending could make a pitch for him and let him share the load with what's his name.
- LeftCoaster

I thought the Hutchinson guy is supposed to have high potential?
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 25 @ 6:05 PM ET
If Markstrom has little to no value you gotta look at moving Lack or holding onto all 3 until injuries hit other teams. Leafs want to move Reimer as well.
- Nucker101

Yeah and they aren't going to get much for him either.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 25 @ 6:05 PM ET
If Markstrom has little to no value you gotta look at moving Lack or holding onto all 3 until injuries hit other teams. Leafs want to move Reimer as well.
- Nucker101

I would really play the wait and see game. The NHL is a fluid business, things change quickly. If Winnipeg would give the Canucks a 2nd round pick and Lowry I'd be more than happy.
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Sep 25 @ 6:06 PM ET
Holy (frank), if that happened what would the Luongo trade look like (as if it wasn't bad enough already)?
- bloatedmosquito

But that's just Benning cleaning up Gillis's mess.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 25 @ 6:06 PM ET
I thought the Hutchinson guy is supposed to have high potential?
- Yeti1181

I was thinking in terms of the immediate future, as in now or next year.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 25 @ 6:06 PM ET
i don't disagree, just don't see why someone said they'd get rid of him because of the very reason you just said
- numbear


Who said they would get rid of him?
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Sep 25 @ 6:08 PM ET
Nucker, I noticed you indicated that two of the pool team's players have all been put back into free agency. I think this gives the rest of the teams who are not picking in the first fiver a great disadvantage. i.e. Crosby is available and that is unfair to the others - and there are at least 5-10 TOP talents available, who will obviously be scooped up by those who finished in the bottom 10.

Any thoughts on this? I just want to make sure we're all playing on a level field

- Zogg

I do not know where I pick in the draft

So, if I'm in the top 5, I disagree with him. But if I have a late pick, then I totally agree with this message.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 25 @ 6:08 PM ET
i don't disagree, just don't see why someone said they'd get rid of him because of the very reason you just said
- numbear

Asset mangement, why give Markstrom away for nothing when you feel (guessing) that he can be what Lack is with proper coaching? Not to mention he's two years younger. Get back assets whenever you can.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 25 @ 6:09 PM ET
I do not know where I pick in the draft

So, if I'm in the top 5, I disagree with him. But if I have a late pick, then I totally agree with this message.

- kneughter

numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Sep 25 @ 6:09 PM ET
Who said they would get rid of him?
- bloatedmosquito

you did a couple pages ago
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Sep 25 @ 6:10 PM ET
If Markstrom has little to no value you gotta look at moving Lack or holding onto all 3 until injuries hit other teams. Leafs want to move Reimer as well.
- Nucker101



We're hooped either way. Risk losing Markstrom for nothing on waivers or try trading him for next to nothing. Goaltenders seem to be trading for pennies on the dollar right now and unproven goalies that have to clear waivers are worth even less.

Lack's value might be higher, but I'd be amazed if even he was able to fetch us more than a mid round pick and/or prospect. One way or another our goaltending situation is going to (frank) us again.
bazz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 25 @ 6:11 PM ET
He, Gillis, needed foresight not hindsight. He was afraid to move Schneider, no balls, poor decision...end of story. For me anyways. Gillis signs a guy to a 12 year deal then won't move a kid everyone is drooling over???

Good GM's will replenish when the opportunity presents itself is all I'm saying.

- LeftCoaster


Gillis in a nutshell
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 25 @ 6:11 PM ET
you did a couple pages ago
- numbear


No I didn't. Please quote.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Sep 25 @ 6:12 PM ET
I think Lack is as good as gone.
- bloatedmosquito

Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 25 @ 6:13 PM ET
I was thinking in terms of the immediate future, as in now or next year.
- LeftCoaster

Oh. Well if that's case they probably going to go for a solid proven number 1.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Sep 25 @ 6:13 PM ET
I do not know where I pick in the draft

So, if I'm in the top 5, I disagree with him. But if I have a late pick, then I totally agree with this message.

- kneughter


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