Not female doging. But someone please explain how jasen Schwartz comes in at 2.35 on a 2 yr deal and we are paying b schenn 2.5.

J Schwartz. Same age. Drafted a year later in the first round. Put up 56 pts last year for an elite team. I scratched my head a bit when we were so quick to get b schenn done. Maybe the flyers just don't want to hardball their players like the blues and rangers but we could've saved 200-500 on the cap if Hexy took a harder stance
- Just5

How much was his entry level deal?

Not female doging. But someone please explain how jasen Schwartz comes in at 2.35 on a 2 yr deal and we are paying b schenn 2.5.

J Schwartz. Same age. Drafted a year later in the first round. Put up 56 pts last year for an elite team. I scratched my head a bit when we were so quick to get b schenn done. Maybe the flyers just don't want to hardball their players like the blues and rangers but we could've saved 200-500 on the cap if Hexy took a harder stance
- Just5

The difference is 150K a year. And obviously, other teams such as the Blues are just better at these things then the Flyers are! Imagine what the Flyers could've done with that extra 150K this year!

The difference is 150K a year. And obviously, other teams such as the Blues are just better at these things then the Flyers are! Imagine what the Flyers could've done with that extra 150K this year!
- MJL

Ha

The difference is 150K a year. And obviously, other teams such as the Blues are just better at these things then the Flyers are! Imagine what the Flyers could've done with that extra 150K this year!
- MJL

Take the theory and apply it to 25 players and you'll see results. Blues signed a better player to a cheaper deal all things being equal for the most part

Take the theory and apply it to 25 players and you'll see results.
- Just5

This is a good point

(...but not sure they could have gotten Schenn signed for much cheaper)

At 1st whistle in 3rd period's final seven minutes, manpower will switch to new AHL overtime format (4-on-4, then 3-on-3).

Take the theory and apply it to 25 players and you'll see results. Blues signed a better player to a cheaper deal all things being equal for the most part
- Just5

So the Blues have 25 players signed to deals that are less then if the Flyers would've have signed a similar player?

Let's look at Wayne Simmonds deal, who is one of the top RW in the League who is signed to a deal for under 4M. Or Jake Voracek, who this year might elevate into the elite is signed for under 4M. Or that the Flyers had an elite player, and a Hart Trophy finalist, who was one of the top overall scorers in the League the past 4 years, playing on a contract for under 4M

So the Blues have 25 players signed to deals that are less then if the Flyers would've have signed a similar player?

Let's look at Wayne Simmonds deal, who is one of the top RW in the League who is signed to a deal for under 4M. Or Jake Voracek, who this year might elevate into the elite is signed for under 4M. Or that the Flyers had an elite player, and a Hart Trophy finalist, who was one of the top overall scorers in the League the past 4 years, playing on a contract for under 4M
- MJL

Or pietrangelo. The leagues best contract

This is a good point

(...but not sure they could have gotten Schenn signed for much cheaper)
- Tomahawk

To be fair, Shwartz's entry level deal was significantly lower than B Schenn. That has to have been a factor. Schenn's cap hit actually went down, so in that light it was a better deal.

Or pietrangelo. The leagues best contract
- Just5

Do you think 7M for Paul Stastny is a good deal?

Future goalie stud getting run over in an exhibition game... awesome

Not female doging. But someone please explain how jasen Schwartz comes in at 2.35 on a 2 yr deal and we are paying b schenn 2.5.

J Schwartz. Same age. Drafted a year later in the first round. Put up 56 pts last year for an elite team. I scratched my head a bit when we were so quick to get b schenn done. Maybe the flyers just don't want to hardball their players like the blues and rangers but we could've saved 200-500 on the cap if Hexy took a harder stance
- Just5

Not worth having BSchenn miss most of camp.

Or pietrangelo. The leagues best contract
- Just5

Crosby has that distinction. Dude could be making well over $10M annual.

Saw this on HFB.

Schwartz
Drafted 1st round, 14th overall in 2010
Recorded 25 goals and 56 points in 82 NHL games last season
34 goals, 38 assists, 72 points in 134 career NHL games (0.25 G/GP, 0.54 P/GP)
Signs bridge deal of 2 years @ $2.35M per year

Johansen
Drafted 1st round, 4th overall in 2010
Recorded 33 goals and 63 points in 82 NHL games last season
47 goals, 49 assists, 96 points in 189 career NHL games (0.25 G/GP, 0.51 P/GP)
Asked for as much as $6.80M per year on a 2 year bridge deal

Crosby has that distinction. Dude could be making well over $10M annual.
- jmatchett383

There's some major recapture penalties if he isn't healthy into his late 30s, though.

Take the theory and apply it to 25 players and you'll see results. Blues signed a better player to a cheaper deal all things being equal for the most part
- Just5

Well, Holmgren singed an elite defensive center and one of the best penalty killers in the NHL to a deal for $600 K less than Schwartz, so that whole apply it to 25 guys isn't actually true.

The Flyers issue isn't usually when they sign guys to bridge deals or deals covering a player's last few RFA and first few UFA years. The issue comes when they over pay guys who are UFAs or heading into UFA.

That's part of the reason I'm happy Hextall stayed out of the market this year.

What happened in the game?

The Flyers issue isn't usually when they sign guys to bridge deals or deals covering a player's last few RFA and first few UFA years. The issue comes when they over pay guys who are UFAs or heading into UFA.
- Jsaquella

This is also true.

Like how the hell is Amac in the same tax bracket as Jbo?

Zach Parise spits the Eric T wisdom:
http://www.startribune.co...ports/wild/277016651.html
- Tomahawk

I still cringe when guys are so conditioned to dump the puck, they do so when a defender isn't within three strides -- I'm not saying you have to split defenders, turn a d-man, every single time, but come on. It's OK to carry the puck in the zone, even if you lose it from time to time, rather than just dumping it and hoping you get it back

What happened in the game?
- aflyerpower8

Nothing

Nothing
- wilsonecho91

From your vivid description, I really feel like I was there

From your vivid description, I really feel like I was there
- aflyerpower8

Imagine an AHL preseason game, played at All-Star Game level urgency.

This is also true.

Like how the hell is Amac in the same tax bracket as Jbo?
- Tomahawk

Yep.

This is also true.

Like how the hell is Amac in the same tax bracket as Jbo?
- Tomahawk

Well, Holmgren singed an elite defensive center and one of the best penalty killers in the NHL to a deal for $600 K less than Schwartz, so that whole apply it to 25 guys isn't actually true.

The Flyers issue isn't usually when they sign guys to bridge deals or deals covering a player's last few RFA and first few UFA years. The issue comes when they over pay guys who are UFAs or heading into UFA.

That's part of the reason I'm happy Hextall stayed out of the market this year.
- Jsaquella

Even if you are an elite defensive forward, your not making much money in this league if your not proving you can play on a scoring line. Coots has a lot to prove if he wants to make real coin. I generally agree with your statement though. But looking at B Schenn's deal, thought they could have squeezed that deal more

At 1st whistle in 3rd period's final seven minutes, manpower will switch to new AHL overtime format (4-on-4, then 3-on-3).
- bmeltzer