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Settle down there, Milbury. - Nucker101
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Gullzy
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 02.07.2013
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Didn't mean to offend you , my bad. Stanton is the 5th best d-man on this team, better than Sbisa/Weber/Corrado, - Nucker101
I agree
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Gullzy
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 02.07.2013
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I like Sbisa better, personally. he's a 1st rounder, dont even think Stanton was drafted. But Stanton is good, and overachieves and I have nothing against him. Its awesome that the Canucks are so deep this year on D, and not dresing guys like Alberts. lol - morrison1980
Tanev was not drafted, and I think he's basically a top 10 draft pick. Being drafted high or low doesn't translate to success on the ice; just look at Datsyuk. |
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Gullzy
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 02.07.2013
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No, actually Sbisa IS better then Stanton, its actually a fact. But yes he's also a first rounder aswell, thats my point. I guess that fact doesnt hurt my arguement does it. - morrison1980
Instead of being subjective why not give some objective facts about how their game stack up against each other?
I can use the "eye" test too, and IMO Stanton is wayyyy better than Sbisa. Sbisa is tough as nails, but cant make a stretch pass to save his life. At least Stanton can carry the puck into open ice and make a solid pass once in a while. All I've seen from Sbisa is hesitant play. There were a few times where he had the opportunity to shoot on the PP and chose to pass it off to a less advantageous position. |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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bezz44
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Location: Inside the scroatee, BC Joined: 05.29.2014
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Everyone share various orally transmitted diseases. - Marwood
Fixed |
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numbear
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Location: vancouver, BC Joined: 06.24.2011
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geez I stopped reading this feed once I saw ALHberts mentioned twice.
I thought everyone thought the canucks were moving forward, not back to alhberts types |
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roland_hazard
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Location: tucson, AZ Joined: 08.17.2014
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As Gullzy pointed out, here's the facts:
Last couple seasons of each player; graph cuts & pastes quite poorly.
Sbisa
Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM +/- GP G A Pts PIM
2013-14 Norfolk Admirals AHL 4 0 2 2 0 1 -- -- -- -- --
2013-14 Anaheim Ducks NHL 30 1 5 6 43 2 0 1 1 5
NHL Totals 266 9 47 56 217 14 0 2 2
Stanton:
Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM +/- GP G A Pts PIM
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2012-13 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 1 0 0 0 2 1 -- -- -- -- --
2013-14 Vancouver Canucks NHL 64 1 15 16 32 5 -- -- -- -- --
NHL Totals 65 1 15 16 34 |
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roland_hazard
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Location: tucson, AZ Joined: 08.17.2014
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What I make of that, is (on average) Sbisa got a point every five games, Stanton got one every four or so, if my math holds up.
Sbisa +2
Stanton +5 (hard to imagine with Vans season, but there you go..) |
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Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ Joined: 07.03.2009
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Everyone share a bong. - Marwood
Drugs are bad for you, beer is your savior, Pale Ale specifically! |
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Gullzy
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 02.07.2013
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What I make of that, is (on average) Sbisa got a point every five games, Stanton got one every four or so, if my math holds up.
Sbisa +2
Stanton +5 (hard to imagine with Vans season, but there you go..) - roland_hazard
Thanks for putting in the work Hazard. I hope that Sbisa can live up to his potential. But if were talking about who slots in where, Stanton is a notch above, albeit marginally.
Even using the eye test, you can tell his puck skills and skating are better. |
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Thanks for putting in the work Hazard. I hope that Sbisa can live up to his potential. But if were talking about who slots in where, Stanton is a notch above, albeit marginally.
Even using the eye test, you can tell his puck skills and skating are better. - Gullzy
Agree with this but let's see after 20 games |
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numbear
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Location: vancouver, BC Joined: 06.24.2011
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Agree with this but let's see after 20 games - VANTEL
oh stop being so reasonable. its preseason, shoot for the stars
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oh stop being so reasonable. its preseason, shoot for the stars - numbear
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Gullzy
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 02.07.2013
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Agree with this but let's see after 20 games - VANTEL
Yeah you're right, slotting them in now is a bit premature. On a side note though, how many people here think that this team can make the playoffs? |
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numbear
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Location: vancouver, BC Joined: 06.24.2011
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Sorry - VANTEL
cripes, i hate hunting for streaming feeds to watch games.
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numbear
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Location: vancouver, BC Joined: 06.24.2011
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Yeah you're right, slotting them in now is a bit premature. On a side note though, how many people here think that this team can make the playoffs? - Gullzy
I think its going to be a battle for 8th place between oilers/canucks |
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Whiskey-Tango
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Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC Joined: 12.10.2011
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As Gullzy pointed out, here's the facts:
Last couple seasons of each player; graph cuts & pastes quite poorly.
Sbisa
Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM +/- GP G A Pts PIM
2013-14 Norfolk Admirals AHL 4 0 2 2 0 1 -- -- -- -- --
2013-14 Anaheim Ducks NHL 30 1 5 6 43 2 0 1 1 5
NHL Totals 266 9 47 56 217 14 0 2 2
Stanton:
Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM +/- GP G A Pts PIM
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2012-13 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 1 0 0 0 2 1 -- -- -- -- --
2013-14 Vancouver Canucks NHL 64 1 15 16 32 5 -- -- -- -- --
NHL Totals 65 1 15 16 34 - roland_hazard
That's a little harsh. Keep in mind the guy is a year younger than Stanton( who i love) and yet has 201 more NHL games played, upon playing directly in the NHL after being drafted.
Look at his career stats among the Swiss leagues, WHL, AHL and NHL. He has never been an offensive point producer and still turned pro at 18-19 years old due to his physical play, (so called) defensive play and skating ability.
The guys total upside is probably around a Willie Mitchell, but if he can clear the net, make some big hits and pass/skate the puck out of the zone I'd be happy.
Definite reclamation project (still only 24 years old) but the potential is there i suppose.
Hope he gets in over Weber |
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vancity787
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Location: My Parents Basement, BC Joined: 07.14.2008
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I think its going to be a battle for 8th place between oilers/canucks - numbear
I think the flames will surprise people this year. Playoffs no. But man, as bad as they were last year, They had more heart than any other team. they lost alot of close games. Bennett is going to be a big time player. |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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I think the flames will surprise people this year. Playoffs no. But man, as bad as they were last year, They had more heart than any other team. they lost alot of close games. Bennett is going to be a big time player. - vancity787
Can you confirm that you traded me the 33rd pick. |
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vancity787
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Location: My Parents Basement, BC Joined: 07.14.2008
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Can you confirm that you traded me the 33rd pick. - Scooby_Doo
wtf are you talking about |
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Scooby_Doo
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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wtf are you talking about - vancity787
You said you're done picking, I offered a draft pick for your next pick. Need to keep the draft moving. |
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You said you're done picking, I offered a draft pick for your next pick. Need to keep the draft moving. - Scooby_Doo
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ballbearings
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Location: tucson, AZ Joined: 04.03.2014
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That's a little harsh. Keep in mind the guy is a year younger than Stanton( who i love) and yet has 201 more NHL games played, upon playing directly in the NHL after being drafted.
Look at his career stats among the Swiss leagues, WHL, AHL and NHL. He has never been an offensive point producer and still turned pro at 18-19 years old due to his physical play, (so called) defensive play and skating ability.
The guys total upside is probably around a Willie Mitchell, but if he can clear the net, make some big hits and pass/skate the puck out of the zone I'd be happy.
Definite reclamation project (still only 24 years old) but the potential is there i suppose.
Hope he gets in over Weber - Whiskey-Tango
I initially posted both players entire career stats, but the post was annoyingly long, and wildly unmanageable when cut and pasted. So, I trimmed it down a bit.True, Sbisa was very good in Europe. Like I said, I actually like him better, but on paper...
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vancity787
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Location: My Parents Basement, BC Joined: 07.14.2008
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You said you're done picking, I offered a draft pick for your next pick. Need to keep the draft moving. - Scooby_Doo
We still have smp do we not? I said if I didn't like my pick I'd move it. Still don't know what that is |
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