Not at all. It's the massive amount of fat around your torso that makes you look fat
- Jsaquella

So the white and pink horizontal stripes...

I made a peanut butter sandwich out of two cherry Poptarts.


Does this shirt make me look fat?
- mayorofangrytown

I hear cherries are terrible for the waistline.

So the white and pink horizontal stripes...

- mayorofangrytown

Yes, those are not especially slimming

I made a peanut butter sandwich out of two cherry Poptarts.


Does this shirt make me look fat?
- mayorofangrytown

That's disgusting man

To clarify, you're saying we lost because Claude Giroux specifically didn't try hard enough?
- BulliesPhan87

Would you feel better if I said yes?

Would you feel better if I said yes?
- JoeRussomanno

The answer will have no effect on my feel. I'm just making sure I understand you.

That's disgusting man
- NickTheKid87

You clearly misspelled delicious

Well, that's kind of what we're wondering. The coaches obviously feel that he has SOMETHING to offer the team (based on the players available to them). Many of us just aren't sold that what he brings makes them a better team when he's in the lineup compared to other options. So, without being in front-office meetings, it's conceivable (but hopefully wrong) that the organization wants to dress an "untalented goon" for some reason.
- jmatchett383

Nothing wrong with not being sold. I'm not sold either. I'm just willing to remain objective and see what happens in the clean slate of a new season.

The answer will have no effect on my feel. I'm just making sure I understand you.
- BulliesPhan87

Then no you do not understand me. I was simply using that microcosm to make my earlier point, in that the team that wanted it more won.

You clearly misspelled delicious
- mayorofangrytown

Are you a fluffernutter fan too?

Then no you do not understand me. I was simply using that microcosm to make my earlier point, in that the team that wanted it more won.
- JoeRussomanno

Actually, it was the deeper, better coached team that won.

Actually, it was the deeper, better coached team that won.
- Jsaquella

Coaching perhaps but not really much deeper.

One still competed harder.
- JoeRussomanno

Based on what?

Then no you do not understand me. I was simply using that microcosm to make my earlier point, in that the team that wanted it more won.
- JoeRussomanno

Ok, well I guess I already gave my opinion on that then.

He can be released. My thinking is bringing in more talent. People talk about not having guys like Stortini, Rosehill, Rinaldo yet when another option is presented then we try to find another reason. I know Powe is AHL. We also have guys like Laurdison, Manning, Konan. Maybe Elliot can bring more than what we have. Yes he might have to pass waivers again but maybe we are the only team interested. I just think it is worth a shot to see if uo can bring in some more talent.
- J35Bacher

I don't think he can be "released" either. This isn't the NFL, and the team can't just cut him. All they could do would be to make him an AHL healthy scratch and play others in his place.

Are you a fluffernutter fan too?
- NickTheKid87

No, peanut butter and marshmallows are mutually exclusive. You just grill Fluff between two slices of bread. What am I 4?

Coaching perhaps but not really much deeper.
- JoeRussomanno

Really? A top four of McDonagh, Staal, Girardi and Stralman wasn't better and deeper than the Flyers top four of AMac, Coburn, Streit and 39 year old Timonen?

What timeframe for each of these players are you getting these hits/PIM numbers from? Also, I'm fairly sure that, over that time frame, Carcillo scored more (slightly more, but still more). Also, Carcillo racked up the PIM is fights and misconducts and didn't leave his team shorthanded as much as Rinaldo. Carcillo also played more minutes than Zac did (presumably) so their PIM/60 minutes is probably closer than raw data.
- jmatchett383

Rinaldo's, when he was 24 - last year
Carcillo, is 29 now - 5 years ago when he was 24.

Those Carcillo numbers were when he was a Flyer. Maybe it's just me, but I remember him as having very poor timing on penalties. Many Carcillo's penalties were just dumb. Rinaldo on the other hand plays at one speed, fast and hitting - penalties are going to be called if the hit is late or fails to hit properly.

Bottom line, who's to argue with Lappy. Love'd him as a player, and trust his gut on Rinaldo.

Rinaldo's, when he was 24 - last year
Carcillo, is 29 now - 5 years ago when he was 24.

Those Carcillo numbers were when he was a Flyer. Maybe it's just me, but I remember him as having very poor timing on penalties. Many Carcillo's penalties were just dumb. Rinaldo on the other hand plays at one speed, fast and hitting - penalties are going to be called if the hit is late or fails to hit properly.

Bottom line, who's to argue with Lappy. Love'd him as a player, and trust his gut on Rinaldo.
- leon neon

I loved Berube as a player too, but that doesn't mean he's infallible in player evaluation as a coach.

Really? A top four of McDonagh, Staal, Girardi and Stralman wasn't better and deeper than the Flyers top four of AMac, Coburn, Streit and 39 year old Timonen?
- Jsaquella

So u meant deeper blue line?

Rinaldo's, when he was 24 - last year
Carcillo, is 29 now - 5 years ago when he was 24.

Those Carcillo numbers were when he was a Flyer. Maybe it's just me, but I remember him as having very poor timing on penalties. Many Carcillo's penalties were just dumb. Rinaldo on the other hand plays at one speed, fast and hitting - penalties are going to be called if the hit is late or fails to hit properly.

Bottom line, who's to argue with Lappy. Love'd him as a player, and trust his gut on Rinaldo.
- leon neon

So hitting late or improperly and getting penalties for it isn't dumb somehow? Especially when it's repeated over and over?

Wayne Gretzky was an awesome player, couldn't coach worth a poop. Lappy's far from a proven coach, much as I like the guy.

So u meant deeper blue line?
- JoeRussomanno

And forward depth. Top-6 for top-6, we matched them well. Bottom-6, they were better.

The real problem was that their team played a more cohesive game, where all 5 players played a system. With the Flyers, the forwards played one system and the defense played another one. There was no support, and our defense got exploited. That, to me, was the issue.

So u meant deeper blue line?
- JoeRussomanno

Deeper team overall. The blueline depth is just one example.

The Flyers were/are a mediocre 5 on 5 team. They live and die on special teams. New York was better at 5 on 5 all year, as well as in the playoffs. That was in part because they had useful, effective players on their fourth line.

Guys like Brian Boyle and Dominic Moore, and to be quite honest, Carcillo and Dorsett, who were a lot more effective than the Flyers energy players

No, peanut butter and marshmallows are mutually exclusive. You just grill Fluff between two slices of bread. What am I 4?
- mayorofangrytown

Here's something: s'mores but made in the microwave. Delicious although you don't get the smokey flavor.

I made a peanut butter sandwich out of two cherry Poptarts.


Does this shirt make me look fat?
- mayorofangrytown

That's just good hustle, is what that is.