Deeper team overall. The blueline depth is just one example.

The Flyers were/are a mediocre 5 on 5 team. They live and die on special teams. New York was better at 5 on 5 all year, as well as in the playoffs. That was in part because they had useful, effective players on their fourth line.

Guys like Brian Boyle and Dominic Moore, and to be quite honest, Carcillo and Dorsett, who were a lot more effective than the Flyers energy players
- Jsaquella

Again 5 on 5 comes back to effort and desire. The flyers have plenty of skill up front to get it done.

Hockey sense and discipline are key parts of being good at even strength.

I made a peanut butter sandwich out of two cherry Poptarts.


Does this shirt make me look fat?
- mayorofangrytown

Nope...

Here's something: s'mores but made in the microwave. Delicious although you don't get the smokey flavor.
- NickTheKid87

Sounds good. I usually like grilled peanut butter and jelly but I didn't have the time. I did toast the Poptarts though.

Nope...
- FlyersGrace

Just edit out the second period from the broadcast, and the Flyers will win 1-0 to advance to round 2
- bmeltzer

interesting for me to rewatch it... i'm so freaked out watching playoff games live i don't process it very well

the flyers were way more competitive than i thought (especially the aforementioned third period)

and streit was their best player

Again 5 on 5 comes back to effort and desire. The flyers have plenty of skill up front to get it done.
- JoeRussomanno

I really wish that were true. I think effort and desire are factors that lift a team over the top, and makes a good team better. But it can only take you so far. But I think that talent with effort and desire behind it, beats just talent, for sure. But that series came down to a lot of things, then just talent and desire.

interesting for me to rewatch it... i'm so freaked out watching playoff games live i don't process it very well

the flyers were way more competitive than i thought (especially the aforementioned third period)

and streit was their best player
- -davies-

Nope, the Rangers wanted it more.

Streit's talents are a key reason why the Flyers played as well as they did last season.

interesting for me to rewatch it... i'm so freaked out watching playoff games live i don't process it very well

the flyers were way more competitive than i thought (especially the aforementioned third period)

and streit was their best player
- -davies-

It was just an absolute abysmal 2nd period. Wouldn't want to watch it again.

Wayne Gretzky was an awesome player, couldn't coach worth a poop. Lappy's far from a proven coach, much as I like the guy.
- Jsaquella

I find that the most talented players often don't make great coaches (there are of course always exceptions). How do you teach someone to breathe? Or see? If it's natural to you then it's really, really hard to describe/teach. The people who had to fight to learn something and train themselves mind and body day after day are the ones who make great coaches.
OMG. Rinaldo the assistant coach, lmao...
*JK

I really wish that were true. I think effort and desire are factors that lift a team over the top, and makes a good team better. But it can only take you so far. But I think that talent with effort and desire behind it, beats just talent, for sure. But that series came down to a lot of things, then just talent and desire.
- MJL

Skill w/Superior Effort > Skill

Skill w/o Effort > Effort w/o Skill

Effort is the pendulum on which victory swings when all things are equal. However, things are rarely, if ever, equal. Otherwise, most ECHL players would be in training camps right now because I'm sure they'd relish the opportunity to challenge for an NHL spot. They just don't have adequate skill.

246 inches off the ice.
- jmatchett383

you could very easily take #36 off the jersey and apply #10 on that hit.

interesting for me to rewatch it... i'm so freaked out watching playoff games live i don't process it very well

the flyers were way more competitive than i thought (especially the aforementioned third period)

and streit was their best player
- -davies-

I never rewatch games the Flyers lost. Why make myself miserable again?

It was just an absolute abysmal 2nd period. Wouldn't want to watch it again.
- MJL

yeah it was a bit of a bummer

Skill w/Superior Effort > Skill

Skill w/o Effort > Effort w/o Skill
- jmatchett383

Agree with the first, not neccessarily the 2nd.

I never rewatch games the Flyers lost. Why make myself miserable again?
- mayorofangrytown

nobody understands why i do it, adge thinks i'm nuts

I find that the most talented players often don't make great coaches (there are of course always exceptions). How do you teach someone to breathe? Or see? If it's natural to you then it's really, really hard to describe/teach. The people who had to fight to learn something and train themselves mind and body day after day are the ones who make great coaches.
OMG. Rinaldo the assistant coach, lmao...
*JK

- FlyersGrace

Absolutely. I'd love to see Gretzky try to show a player how to be as good as he was:
"Come on, dammit, can't you just anticipate where they play is going to be 3 seconds before it happens, get to that area, stickhandle around 2 guys and make a perfect saucer pass to a wide-open teammate for a goal!?!?"

nobody understands why i do it, adge thinks i'm nuts
- -davies-

It's not the quantifier I'd use but I can't disagree with him.

Agree with the first, not neccessarily the 2nd.
- MJL

Nikolai Zherdev is better than me, and I can guarantee you I'll give more effort than he ever did.

Nikolai Zherdev is better than me, and I can guarantee you I'll give more effort than he ever did.
- jmatchett383

but would you beat him in a hockey match?

Nikolai Zherdev is better than me, and I can guarantee you I'll give more effort than he ever did.
- jmatchett383

Zherdev is more skilled and talented then you are that's for sure. But he couldn't spell effort.

Again 5 on 5 comes back to effort and desire. The flyers have plenty of skill up front to get it done.
- JoeRussomanno

That's little more than a hackneyed cliche. You can have 5 guys busting their asses at cross purposes and you won't win. 5 guys working their asses off as a unit is far better.

The Flyers lacked cohesion, not effort.

Basically my issue with Rinaldo in a nutshell. The effort will be there, for sure. But if that effort end is aimed poorly, it's not worth a bucket of piss in a rowboat full of leaks

I really wish that were true. I think effort and desire are factors that lift a team over the top, and makes a good team better. But it can only take you so far. But I think that talent with effort and desire behind it, beats just talent, for sure. But that series came down to a lot of things, then just talent and desire.
- MJL

This has talent. Look how many 20+ goal scorers they had.

This has talent. Look how many 20+ goal scorers they had.
- JoeRussomanno

Absolutely they have talent. But they didn't play well at ES overall in the series.

Nikolai Zherdev is better than me, and I can guarantee you I'll give more effort than he ever did.
- jmatchett383

So certain are we?