They're tapping in now, to an extent. They will likely have to juggle a bit.
- Jsaquella

Yeah, my mistake.

Doubt Florek + Caron stick, so probably leaves $1.6M under option 2 to keep Spooner and maybe sign Gagne.

All Hail King Zepp

The thing is, other than doing a better a job at drawing penalties during 12-13, I have seen no improvement in any other facet of his game over the last 3 seasons. Maybe he can chip on the pk, but with Couturier, Read, Raffl, Umberger, Giroux, Jones and possibly Bellemare and at some point this season, Laughton, it's really not a need.
- BiggE

He went backwards in 12-13, and didn't play well. You can never have too many capable PKers, so I disagree that it's not a need. And it's about improving Rinaldo as a player going forward, so he can become more valuable to the team. That is also part of a coching staff's job. Helping young players to get better.

Yeah, my mistake.

Doubt Florek + Caron stick, so probably leaves $1.6M under option 2 to keep Spooner and maybe sign Gagne.
- Tomahawk

Yeah, they have some options, but it will involve a trade or waiving guys they invested some time & effort into developing.

I think that would be the case, but I've watched every pre-season game but last night's and Schultz has looked terrible. He swings between looking lost, to simply being out of gas.

I worry if he has to dress in a key game we get a Hal Gill vs the Rangers kind of event
- Jsaquella

Losing Timonen really sucks. Hurts the depth. Not sold on Del Zotto at all. The Flyers D has a chance to be Keystone cops in their own end.

Yeah, they have some options, but it will involve a trade or waiving guys they invested some time & effort into developing.
- Jsaquella

Nobody that they will miss, most likely. They're in pretty decent shape, all things considered.

Nobody that they will miss, most likely. They're in pretty decent shape, all things considered.
- Tomahawk

Putting Bergeron on waivers would give them some serious wiggle room.

You don't think the Flyers are giving or have given opportunities to young players such as Raffle, and Akeson?
- MJL

I think you need to look at this in the proper context and not just look at the numbers. I'm just here to state the facts and you clearly aren't understanding the point. If you take the time and think about it objectively, you'll realize that I'm right and you're wrong.

He's tilting at windmills and missing the point, perhaps intentionally to get into a debate. I've cleared stated my point, you and others have called it valid, and he continues to mis represent it. This is why I ignore his posts. He's spoiling for an argument, and it's pointless to feed him.
- Jsaquella

Just because you disagree with a point being made, doesn't mean an argument is being looked for. So since were discussing where points have been missed. I'll state where I think you're missing my point. My point is simply this. Whether I like Rinaldo as a player or not, whether I feel he played well or not last year. The Flyers are mving forward with Rinaldo, and are attempting to develop him as a player, in order to make him more valuable to the team. Why would I be against the attempt to do that? If he's going to be around? Why not remain objective and see what actually happens before going off the deep end in another pre season panic?

All Berube has said is that he's going to continue to evaluate Rinaldo in that role. Not that he's going to be a mainstay and top PKer! Mountains out of molehills!

I've posted multiple times, with honest critiques of Rinaldo as a player. Including statements like I have doubts about his hockey sense. And how I feel he needs to be a hockey player first, and an agitator second. And I've said that multiple times.

Putting Bergeron on waivers would give them some serious wiggle room.
- jmatchett383

At least this game is on TV

rindaldo is gr8

At least this game is on TV
- PhillySportsGuy

So, how's married life been?

rindaldo is gr8
- BulliesPhan87

246 inches off the ice.

rindaldo is gr8
- BulliesPhan87

_laude who? Give the C to RINDADLO. ZaC

246 inches off the ice.
- jmatchett383

He actually is a clean hitter most of the time....

He actually is a clean hitter most of the time....
- GOA88

I know he is. Well, at least as far as not charging, anyway. Picks heads at times.

246 inches off the ice.
- jmatchett383

Holy crap, the safety net was the only thing that kept him from flying out of the building!

I know he is. Well, at least as far as not charging, anyway. Picks heads at times.
- jmatchett383

Well in comparison to Scott Stevens...... I hardly notice anyone aiming for the head. LMAO. That was his M.O.

I'm also not encouraged by Berube's comments that he's considering a bigger role for Rinaldo. I'm not going to argue for banishing him to the press box or Allentown, because that isn't realistic in the least, but I can't see why this organization gives guys like Rinaldo opportunity after opportunity when other young players, such as Erik Gustafsson often found themselves benched after a mistake or bad game.


- Jsaquella

Easy answer to that... Rinaldo is being asked to play on the edge and be a pest. The coaching staff is willing / expects to take the occasional penalty, if Rinaldo can take some one like off their game or wear them out.

Everyone wants 4 scoring lines. The Flyers coaching staff obviously sees need for a energy fourth line to pester and wear out the opposition. Rinaldo fits this role. Most of the prospects track to be line 3 or better And, why bring a young winger up to play limited minutes in a limited role (and a role they are not destine to play). When they could be playing more minute and gain more experience in the AHL. We shouldn't be developing guys at the farm level for the 4th line... Frankly they are easy to pick up via UFA or trade.

Well in comparison to Scott Stevens...... I hardly notice anyone aiming for the head. LMAO. That was his M.O.
- GOA88

Well once he becomes a HOF-caliber player, perhaps we'll overlook his trips to looney town.

Raffl sure, though at 25 last year, he's not exactly a kid and he was signed with the intention of making the big club. Akeson though, IMO, has not had the opportunities of a guy like Rinaldo. Heck they were using guys like VDV, McGinn and Newbury last year before they thought to maybe try out their minor league leading scorer and most talented player.
- BiggE

I think each player has to be looked at individually. There are reasons for why a player gets a chance over another player. A lot of times it's for the type of player and role they are looking to play that player in. I don't think they view Akeson as a 4th line type, and neither do I. And I also think they were trying to develop Akeson's all around game, and play away from the puck. I think the one player that a argument can be made for is McGinn, as far as Akeson getting a shot. I think Akeson has a clearly superior offensive game to McGinn. Akeson is getting his chance now. We'll see in the regular season how much leeway they give him. I hope that he's given a legitimate chance.

Nobody that they will miss, most likely. They're in pretty decent shape, all things considered.
- Tomahawk

No, they won't miss them, but will likely lose them for no return. It's possible they can slip a guy like Caron through waivers, sure, but it's not ideal.

Easy answer to that... Rinaldo is being asked to play on the edge and be a pest. The coaching staff is willing / expects to take the occasional penalty, if Rinaldo can take some one like off their game or wear them out.

Everyone wants 4 scoring lines. The Flyers coaching staff obviously sees need for a energy fourth line to pester and wear out the opposition. Rinaldo fits this role. Most of the prospects track to be line 3 or better And, why bring a young winger up to play limited minutes in a limited role (and a role they are not destine to play). When they could be playing more minute and gain more experience in the AHL. We shouldn't be developing guys at the farm level for the 4th line... Frankly they are easy to pick up via UFA or trade.
- leon neon

I don't think anyone wants "4 scoring lines." They want 4 effective lines that can play a regular shift without taking a penalty or otherwise being a liability. The 09/10 line that had Lappy/Betts wasn't a scoring line, but it was a line that could play upwards of 14 minutes/night and you didn't have to wring your hands hoping they wouldn't implode.

The problem isn't that he sometimes takes penalties so much as the kinds he does take, not to mention the fact that there is very little else to his game (to date). Again using Lappy and Betts, or even Powe, they were players who were good PKers, could get the puck into the offensive zone and grind/cycle a bit, played good responsible D, and rarely took a stupid or needless penalty. If you get a rough for being overaggressive, or have a fight, or take a penalty to save a goal, that's one thing. But when you don't offer much else besides "energy" (again, to date) and your penalty ratio is negative, not to mention many of them are needless, they there's diminishing returns every time he's on the ice.

I realize that this is preseason, but it sounds like the team's play was not inspiring to say the least. I looked at the box score at the end of the second period, and the shots for, and against really alarmed me. I hope that the players really want to play in the NHL. Isn't that part of the reason why we got rid of Richards, and Carter; lack of consistency, and off ice issues? I know that many that played the other night were still kids, but their work ethic is what I am questioning. I also understand that the kids have been playing a lot lately, but I hope that they can make the adjustment of a longer schedule. I am not ready to throw in the towel, but when a player accepts a losing environment, it's a hard habit to shake. I also have faith in Chief, to let them know that this is not acceptable. I appreciate hard play, when you lose. These things happen. But, if you are going to take nights off, because of a bad mood, or you are just not focused enough to play....
I am also starting to wonder if this is going to be a habit of the next generation of players. It seems like the players are catered to now more than ever. It's sad when social media is more important than doing your job, and earning those millions of dollars.
Food for thought. It's just one bad loss, but as mentioned a hard fought loss would leave a better feeling about the team for the fans.
Thanks.