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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Sep 29 @ 12:50 PM ET
We can discuss the worrisome play of the third pair and 7th defenseman if you like
- Jsaquella


actually, i'd rather discuss fancy stats, vinny and schenn, and rushing all of our prospects. ready? go.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Sep 29 @ 12:51 PM ET
I've mostly been on the fence bout rinaldo but if he's got that kind of work ethic and attitude as Bill describes then yes I say give him more opportunity. Im sorry to the critics but these long stretches of uninspired play and slow starts to games has to stop! Maybe giving a guy like Rinaldo more time can break this aggravating trend... Maybe.
- JoeRussomanno


Just to clarify, the Flyers should give more icetime to lesser players to try to give themselves a better shot at winning?
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 29 @ 12:53 PM ET
Bollig played 10 minutes a night at ES last season. He scored more points, had similar possession numbers and took fewer penalties. Bollig isn't as prone to reckless play as Carcillo, either.

Carcillo has also been a better player than Rinaldo over the course of his career, based on offensive production and his possession stats show that when he played for both LA and Chicago, he largely bought in and played a more controlled game.

Carcillo has also been a little used guy when he was with LA and Chicago. He played 26 games as a King and 51 games over two seasons as a Blackhawk. Rinaldo has played 66, 32(out of 48) and 67 games over his Flyers career.

- Jsaquella


Jon Scott? Adam Burrish?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 29 @ 12:54 PM ET
actually, i'd rather discuss fancy stats, vinny and schenn, and rushing all of our prospects. ready? go.
- hammarby31


You need to look at things in context. We're just here to state the facts (why the (frank) come on here just to state facts and not to offer anything more?)

Vinny Lecavalier is still a good hockey player because he was a good hockey player before. Flyers should sign Wayne Gretzky.

Brayden Schenn is a bust.

All of the Morghohaggaltheim are the NHL now yes!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Sep 29 @ 12:54 PM ET
Jon Scott? Adam Burrish?
- moylander


is burrish even in the league still?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 29 @ 12:54 PM ET
Jon Scott? Adam Burrish?
- moylander


Healthy scratch? Healthy scratch?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 29 @ 12:55 PM ET
Just to clarify, the Flyers should give more icetime to lesser players to try to give themselves a better shot at winning?
- bradleyc4


Maybe some early PK's will get their mojo mojoing.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Sep 29 @ 1:07 PM ET
Just to clarify, the Flyers should give more icetime to lesser players to try to give themselves a better shot at winning?
- bradleyc4

No. But i dont mind them showing some favoritism to a guy like rinaldo by keeping him on team b/c of his work ethic and attitude. For him to get more icetime than he does he needs to improve his play.
mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Sep 29 @ 1:07 PM ET
Jon Scott? Adam Burrish?
- moylander


What about them?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Sep 29 @ 1:09 PM ET
Maybe some early PK's will get their mojo mojoing.
- jmatchett383

They need to do something to break this trend of slow starts and long stretches of half ass play. Rinaldo is consistent albeit in some bad areas at times but he is consistent with energy and attitude.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 29 @ 1:22 PM ET
"At the start of the ceremony, the date ''SEPTEMBER 28 2014'' was removed, one character at a time, from the hand-operated scoreboard on the left-field wall and replaced by ''WITH RESPECT 2 DEREK JETER.'' Then the ''S'' in ''RESPECT'' was replaced by the No. 2."

REZPECT???
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Sep 29 @ 1:23 PM ET
No. But i dont mind them showing some favoritism to a guy like rinaldo by keeping him on team b/c of his work ethic and attitude. For him to get more icetime than he does he needs to improve his play.
- JoeRussomanno


Unless you get him out there with other top-6 forwards, I don't think you want to put your 4th line out against other team's top lines to start off the game.

That's a recipe for disaster.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 29 @ 1:23 PM ET
Bruins dump Ville Leino
- Jsaquella


Supposedly he was looking pretty good in camp... guess having Reilly Smith back killed that opportunity.

Gagne still alive.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Sep 29 @ 1:24 PM ET
So now Stefan Elliot and Louis Leblanc are waived. Also Colin Fraser. Do we have any space for any of these. I think Elliot and Leblanc could be interesting. 4th line and possible depth defensman
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 29 @ 1:28 PM ET
[quote=JoeRussomanno]

Their inconsistency is due more to their lack of skill than lack of effort. Watching Rinaldo deliver a good check isn't going to help the team move through the neutral zone
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 29 @ 1:28 PM ET
You need to look at things in context. We're just here to state the facts (why the (frank) come on here just to state facts and not to offer anything more?)

Vinny Lecavalier is still a good hockey player because he was a good hockey player before. Flyers should sign Wayne Gretzky.

Brayden Schenn is a bust.

All of the Morghohaggaltheim are the NHL now yes!

- jmatchett383


Gordie Howe is a free agent

just sayin....
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 29 @ 1:28 PM ET
Jon Scott? Adam Burrish?
- moylander


uh, who are 2 guys that have never been in my kitchen??
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Sep 29 @ 1:29 PM ET
So now Stefan Elliot and Louis Leblanc are waived. Also Colin Fraser. Do we have any space for any of these. I think Elliot and Leblanc could be interesting. 4th line and possible depth defensman
- J35Bacher

We have a boat load of those guys. I wouldn't log jam the prospects with more of them.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Sep 29 @ 1:30 PM ET
uh, who are 2 guys that have never been in my kitchen??
- BiggE

Shouldn't you be working and not tangenting the conversation with vague Cheers references?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Sep 29 @ 1:34 PM ET


rags flyers game 7 is on NHL network right now


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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 29 @ 1:38 PM ET
Shouldn't you be working and not tangenting the conversation with vague Cheers references?
- mayorofangrytown



Wondering if anyone would get that
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 29 @ 1:39 PM ET
rags flyers game 7 is on NHL network right now


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- -davies-


No thanks, I'll just slowly bang my head against the wall
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Sep 29 @ 1:39 PM ET
We have a boat load of those guys. I wouldn't log jam the prospects with more of them.
- mayorofangrytown



Not creating a log jam if Hextall really wants guys to develop in the AHL. You alo could release guys like Laurdison to make room for someone like Elliot or waive a guy like Powe for Leblanc.
mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Sep 29 @ 1:41 PM ET
Not creating a log jam if Hextall really wants guys to develop in the AHL. You alo could release guys like Laurdison to make room for someone like Elliot or waive a guy like Powe for Leblanc.
- J35Bacher


Not sure those guys bring in anything more than the guys Flyers already have in their system. They don't seem to fill an apparent need. Elliot, maybe, but I'd say even that is a stretch.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Sep 29 @ 1:42 PM ET
If I remember correctly, there are only 2 "ironic" things in that song (the dude who finally gets on the plane, and...something else). I don't think anything mentioned in the chorus is actually ironic.
- jmatchett383


Ok, haha, even though I'm late to the party, I had to comment. I love the melody of that song, but I don't think there is anything ironic in the whole song.

Even plane crash guy...that's just bad luck. It would be ironic if he was so worried about a plane crash that he takes the train...and dies in a train wreck.
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