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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 2 @ 10:24 PM ET
streit/coburn

its so obvious

- Crimsoninja

coburn 2 2nds so obvious
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 2 @ 10:28 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/how-cro...ains-unparalleled-1.97713

11. Giroux

No other Flyers listed in top 50

- PhillySportsGuy

Jamie Benn quickly becoming overrated.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 2 @ 10:37 PM ET
That will change. Voracek will be there before long.
- MJL

Voracek needs no less then 30 plus goals this season.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 2 @ 11:31 PM ET
Jamie Benn quickly becoming overrated.
- SuperSchennBros

Absolutely

Not saying he's not a great talent, but he's got to show me a little bit more to lump him in with the elite/world class talent
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 2 @ 11:39 PM ET
I've always felt Coburn plays best with a defense partner that he knows where he is/will be and who doesn't take too many risks.

It might work, because as you say, we haven't seen it. But the way Streit plays, with a few giveaways that offensive players make, might be hard on Coburn

Somebody said it earlier, but if MacDonald-Coburn is getting lit up, then you are gonna have to do something sooner than later, like Coburn-Grossmann

- AllInForFlyers


Sure seemed like whenever those two, or the Umberger-Lecavalier line were on ice at ES, the Caps were getting more zone time and shots, in addition to the two goals.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 2 @ 11:42 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/how-cro...ains-unparalleled-1.97713

11. Giroux

No other Flyers listed in top 50

- PhillySportsGuy


Good. Piss him off. We've seen what an angry and motivated Giroux can do
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 3 @ 12:01 AM ET
Sure seemed like whenever those two, or the Umberger-Lecavalier line were on ice at ES, the Caps were getting more zone time and shots, in addition to the two goals.
- Jsaquella


I know you don't like the solution because of what it means, but there's a reason why Morin's still around.

Somebody, Berube or Hextall, isn't sold on something about the defense. Because while Morin's done what was asked, he's a 19-year-old defenseman.

For him to still be around, when Laughton and Ghost are already gone...somebody with authority might be asking a few tough questions.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 3 @ 12:06 AM ET
I know you don't like the solution because of what it means, but there's a reason why Morin's still around.

Somebody, Berube or Hextall, isn't sold on something about the defense. Because while Morin's done what was asked, he's a 19-year-old defenseman.

For him to still be around, when Laughton and Ghost are already gone...somebody with authority might be asking a few tough questions.

- AllInForFlyers



One part of it, as Hextall mentioned when asked about the trade rumors is, that once Morin is sent back, he's sent back for good, unless there's an emergency situation.

He was asked about the junior rules that limit Morin to the NHL or QMJHL and he said, "That's part of it".

I don't think they are happy with the defense, and that's a part of it as well. They can recall Gostisbehere or Laughton at will. but Morin...when he's gone he's gone.

I'm 100% fine with Morin being with the team for a 9 game try out, he's done well in pre-season and a short stay for regular season games isn't likely to hurt. But if they're that unhappy with the defense, they should have seen it coming long before now.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 3 @ 12:23 AM ET
One part of it, as Hextall mentioned when asked about the trade rumors is, that once Morin is sent back, he's sent back for good, unless there's an emergency situation.

He was asked about the junior rules that limit Morin to the NHL or QMJHL and he said, "That's part of it".

I don't think they are happy with the defense, and that's a part of it as well. They can recall Gostisbehere or Laughton at will. but Morin...when he's gone he's gone.

I'm 100% fine with Morin being with the team for a 9 game try out, he's done well in pre-season and a short stay for regular season games isn't likely to hurt. But if they're that unhappy with the defense, they should have seen it coming long before now.

- Jsaquella


The trigger has to be Del Zotto/MacDonald. Right? It's the only thing that makes sense, because Grossmann and Streit have been fine.

To me, the only thing that makes sense is that either they really haven't liked Del Zotto's game and are afraid of having Schenn go down the drain with him, which means they are looking to put MacDonald back with Schenn because they were effective enough together, or they don't like MacDonald with Coburn AND don't love Del Zotto thus far, which means they want to move MacDonald down.

They have to be worried about multiple defensemen in order for them to risk keeping Morin.
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Oct 3 @ 5:00 AM ET
One part of it, as Hextall mentioned when asked about the trade rumors is, that once Morin is sent back, he's sent back for good, unless there's an emergency situation.

He was asked about the junior rules that limit Morin to the NHL or QMJHL and he said, "That's part of it".

I don't think they are happy with the defense, and that's a part of it as well. They can recall Gostisbehere or Laughton at will. but Morin...when he's gone he's gone.

I'm 100% fine with Morin being with the team for a 9 game try out, he's done well in pre-season and a short stay for regular season games isn't likely to hurt. But if they're that unhappy with the defense, they should have seen it coming long before now.

- Jsaquella


Not sure how they could of seen it coming before now ... they were obviously hoping that Del Zotto would get his game back and players like Schenn , Coburn, and Amac would not have taken a step back so far. With this b.s. schedule that they just went through during the preseason it is now wonder there couldn't be any chemistry developed. You have to check out the young guys and nobody can play 5 nights in a row! At least it is only preseason. Hopefully they get it together soon. Streit should be back playing with Amac though!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 3 @ 7:41 AM ET
The trigger has to be Del Zotto/MacDonald. Right? It's the only thing that makes sense, because Grossmann and Streit have been fine.

To me, the only thing that makes sense is that either they really haven't liked Del Zotto's game and are afraid of having Schenn go down the drain with him, which means they are looking to put MacDonald back with Schenn because they were effective enough together, or they don't like MacDonald with Coburn AND don't love Del Zotto thus far, which means they want to move MacDonald down.

They have to be worried about multiple defensemen in order for them to risk keeping Morin.

- AllInForFlyers


It could be Schenn as well. I think Streit and Grossmann are the only two guys who have been solid, without any noticeably bad games.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 3 @ 7:42 AM ET
Not sure how they could of seen it coming before now ... they were obviously hoping that Del Zotto would get his game back and players like Schenn , Coburn, and Amac would not have taken a step back so far. With this b.s. schedule that they just went through during the preseason it is now wonder there couldn't be any chemistry developed. You have to check out the young guys and nobody can play 5 nights in a row! At least it is only preseason. Hopefully they get it together soon. Streit should be back playing with Amac though!
- Cable2k


Hell, most of us saw it back in July or whenever Timonen got diagnosed with the clots. We knew then that they were going to have issues
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