My point is... LA has 2 cups with or without Carter. You overvalue him. He is a good player... But he is not the #1 star player that will win you a cup. He is a compliment to the team LA already had. Same with 4th liner Richards.
- GOA88

You don't know that. Acquiring Richards and Carter helped put LA over the top. Richards played over 15 minutes a game in the playoffs. Carter was 2nd in icetime only to Kopitar among LA forwards in the playoffs. Sounds like you have a bias there.

You could get almost $300K closer to maximizing it by paper demoting Akeson and recalling Laughton. But it's not worth it because Akeson could get claimed.
- Feanor

It's going to be difficult getting it perfect.

Naw, he was more along the Vinny line of hype.
- Tomahawk

He was the Michael Jordan of hockey too?!?!?

I'm not sure how much Morin can grow as a d-man in the Q by being so ridiculously physically dominant against his competition. For me, that scenario could lead to falling into bad habits more so then playing against better competition. I don't know what is the right answer on him.
- ravishingone

I was thinking the same thing. Its a real shame Morin can't go to the AHL. I feel that's where he belongs.

I also think that Ghost as great as he's been needs some time to work on his defensive game. Offensively he's ready now. I expect him to be a mid season call-up.

You really never know how things will play out thought. One of the their top six could get injured game 1 and are you really going to play Nick Schultz over a several week period? No way I think that happens.

You don't know that. Acquiring Richards and Carter helped put LA over the top. Richards played over 15 minutes a game in the playoffs. Carter was 2nd in icetime only to Kopitar among LA forwards in the playoffs. Sounds like you have a bias there.
- MJL

I dont hate them or anything. I think Quick was the monumental reason they won those cups. Carter and Richards not even being part of the top 5 best players on the team.
1.Quick
2.Doughty
3.Kopitar
4.Williams (Playoffs - Mr. Clutch)
5.Gaborik (Playoffs)

He was the Michael Jordan of hockey too?!?!?
- aflyerpower8

Maybe the Washington Wizards version.

My point is... LA has 2 cups with or without Carter. You overvalue him. He is a good player... But he is not the #1 star player that will win you a cup. He is a compliment to the team LA already had. Same with 4th liner Richards.
- GOA88

I don't agree with this at all. No way LA wins cup #2 without Carter. He arguably could have won the Conn Smythe. (any of the 4 could have).

So....BOB RYAB signed an extension?

I read it was always his dream to retire an Ottawa Senator.

My point is... LA has 2 cups with or without Carter. You overvalue him. He is a good player... But he is not the #1 star player that will win you a cup. He is a compliment to the team LA already had. Same with 4th liner Richards.
- GOA88

Carter was a big part of those teams. Take him away and I doubt they win those Cups. It's possible but every part of a team plays a role and Carter's was a large one.

Erik Karlsson named captain, Bobby Ryan extended...busy day in Ottawa

Poor beat writers won't get Cherry Bill's Bobby Ryan

Maybe the Washington Wizards version.
- Tomahawk

That might be a tad harsh.

More like the version that came out of retirement after failing at baseball and wore #45.

So....BOB RYAB signed an extension?

I read it was always his dream to retire an Ottawa Senator.


- johndewar

We should officially retire BOB RYAB. We can have a huge ceremony and everything.

The idea of Bobby Ryan coming here is finally dead.

Poor beat writers won't get Cherry Bill's Bobby Ryan
- ob18

No, there's still time

/when he's 35
//and terrible

We should officially retire BOB RYAB. We can have a huge ceremony and everything.
- NickTheKid87

Agreed.

Someone with photoshop skills and some spare time needs to get started on this.

I dont hate them or anything. I think Quick was the monumental reason they won those cups. Carter and Richards not even being part of the top 5 best players on the team.
- GOA88

Honestly, I kinda agree with MJL on this one. You seem to really trying to find a way to bash Carter here. Last year in the playoffs he meant as much to the Kings as anyone.

I wouldn't redo those trades, if only because they handed the team to G and got back some great players. But Carter has turned into an All-Star forward. Seems he got a Gold medal in Sochi and not Giroux. Not saying he's better than G. Just saying the hockey world thinks more highly of him than you do.

robby bryan come home

The idea of Bobby Ryan coming here is finally dead.
- SuperSchennBros

He just gets in line with Rick Nash and Shea Weber

The idea of Bobby Ryan coming here is finally dead.
- SuperSchennBros

Don't worry. Holmgren introduced the concept of trading for player's rights to the NHL. Hextall is introducing the Sign & Trade.

Oh wait, Holmgren introduced that one too (see: Carter, J; Richards, M)

He just gets in line with Rick Nash and Shea Weber
- AllInForFlyers

Jesus, yeah.... it's never going to be over.

I guess my problem was how Hexy all but announced that these guys were going to be sent down. If you are a veteran and you know there is almost zero chance of losing your job, why bust your butt. It's almost like tenure.
- section32

Agreed.

Someone with photoshop skills and some spare time needs to get started on this.
- johndewar

Someone needs to write a hymn for this too.

That was my whole point earlier on the thread. Why bother with all of the roster juggling just to keep Morin for a cup of coffee in the league this year? Let him play tonight, give him a good plan for the year then send him on his way.
- TheGreat28

You still have to juggle the rosters if you don't keep Morin.

Honestly, I kinda agree with MJL on this one. You seem to really trying to find a way to bash Carter here. Last year in the playoffs he meant as much to the Kings as anyone.

I wouldn't redo those trades, if only because they handed the team to G and got back some great players. But Carter has turned into an All-Star forward. Seems he got a Gold medal in Sochi and not Giroux. Not saying he's better than G. Just saying the hockey world thinks more highly of him than you do.
- TheGreat28

He was with the Flyers as well. Never said he wasnt. He just simply is not anywhere close to being the top player on LA or as important as at the very least 3-4 players ahead of him. Period