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TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Oct 2 @ 9:43 AM ET
You still have to juggle the rosters if you don't keep Morin.
- Feanor


Not nearly as much though.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 2 @ 9:43 AM ET
You still have to juggle the rosters if you don't keep Morin.
- Feanor


He'll be in Rimouski soon
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 2 @ 9:46 AM ET
Honestly, I kinda agree with MJL on this one. You seem to really trying to find a way to bash Carter here. Last year in the playoffs he meant as much to the Kings as anyone.

I wouldn't redo those trades, if only because they handed the team to G and got back some great players. But Carter has turned into an All-Star forward. Seems he got a Gold medal in Sochi and not Giroux. Not saying he's better than G. Just saying the hockey world thinks more highly of him than you do.

- TheGreat28


I like Jeff Carter. I don't love him but I like him. I think the Flyers could use a Jeff Carter now, then ever, even over a player like Mike Richards. However I do believe Carter is an overrated sniper in this league. He'll always have way more goals then he does assists with his stats. He's along time removed from a 40 goal season, when a league where they still exsist. He has a decent two way game though.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 2 @ 9:46 AM ET
He'll be in Rimouski soon
- ob18


... brimming w/ new found confidence.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Oct 2 @ 9:47 AM ET
I like Jeff Carter. I don't love him but I like him. I think the Flyers could use a Jeff Carter now, then ever, even over a player like Mike Richards. However I do believe Carter is an overrated sniper in this league. He'll always have way more goals then he does assists with his stats. He's along time removed from a 40 goal season, when a league where they still exsist. He has a decent two way game though.
- SuperSchennBros

He also has an atrocious shooting % for being such a "sniper"
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Oct 2 @ 9:48 AM ET
... brimming w/ new found confidence.
- Tomahawk


And, hopefully, a better idea of what he needs to work on and what will be expected of him in the future.

Win/win.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Oct 2 @ 9:48 AM ET
I like Jeff Carter. I don't love him but I like him. I think the Flyers could use a Jeff Carter now, then ever, even over a player like Mike Richards. However I do believe Carter is an overrated sniper in this league. He'll always have way more goals then he does assists with his stats. He's along time removed from a 40 goal season, when a league where they still exsist. He has a decent two way game though.
- SuperSchennBros


Actually, he is exactly the kind of player that they need right now on the 1st line. Not that I'm saying bring him back or don't do the trade. But I'd love for the team to get a pure goal-scoring sniper to pair with G, preferably a true winger.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Oct 2 @ 9:49 AM ET
He'll be in Rimouski soon
- ob18


Tomorrow morning is my guess
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 2 @ 9:50 AM ET
And, hopefully, a better idea of what he needs to work on and what will be expected of him in the future.

Win/win.

- tangent_man



SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 2 @ 9:50 AM ET
Actually, he is exactly the kind of player that they need right now on the 1st line. Not that I'm saying bring him back or don't do the trade. But I'd love for the team to get a pure goal-scoring sniper to pair with G, preferably a true winger.
- TheGreat28

This is exactly why I wanted Bobby Ryan all this time.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 2 @ 9:51 AM ET
Thought it was confirmed that Hagg was sliding like Hampus and Girgensons?
- Tomahawk


I believe this to be the case, yes. He's a teenager playing in the AHL. His contract will slide as though he's in juniors.

As long as he doesn't get recalled to the Flyers this season and play 10 or more games.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 2 @ 9:51 AM ET
This is exactly why I wanted Bobby Ryan all this time.
- SuperSchennBros


Start working on those trade proposals.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 2 @ 9:52 AM ET

- tangent_man

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 2 @ 9:52 AM ET
He also has an atrocious shooting % for being such a "sniper"
- GOA88



Never understood why high volume shooters like OV and Carter get knocked... like it's easy putting 3+ shots on net per game or something.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 2 @ 9:52 AM ET

- ob18


You just want an excuse to watch more CHL games. You're addicted. Seek help
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 2 @ 9:52 AM ET
Depends on what Luke Schenn we see. This team's issue isn't offense or the PP. It's defense.
- MJL

Is Luke Schenn (the guy they traded for) not a huge portion of this issue? Schenn is part of the reason our defense is a problem.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 2 @ 9:53 AM ET
Not nearly as much though.
- TheGreat28


They will still need to paper recall two of Hagg, Straka & Ghost to maximize cap space.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Oct 2 @ 9:53 AM ET
This is exactly why I wanted Bobby Ryan all this time.
- SuperSchennBros


Not at 7 million though. I would have picked him up next offseason if he would have taken a 5.5 mil contract with a nice home team discount.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 2 @ 9:53 AM ET
He also has an atrocious shooting % for being such a "sniper"
- GOA88

He does shoot too often. He even shoots wide as the rumours suggest to pick corners. Good player but playing with Jeff Carter for most players has to be playing with that jerk in an NHL14 drop-in who has no intention to ever pass.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 2 @ 9:54 AM ET
But but cherry hill. ...

It was meant to be. ..
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 2 @ 9:55 AM ET
Never understood why high volume shooters like OV and Carter get knocked... like it's easy putting 3+ shots on net per game or something.
- Tomahawk


Anyone can shoot pucks on net. Can he wrestle a bear?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 2 @ 9:56 AM ET
I dont hate them or anything. I think Quick was the monumental reason they won those cups. Carter and Richards not even being part of the top 5 best players on the team.
1.Quick
2.Doughty
3.Kopitar
4.Williams (Playoffs - Mr. Clutch)
5.Gaborik (Playoffs)

- GOA88



You can think what you want, but it was obvious that Carter was a dominant player last year in the playoffs for them. All of those players were absolutely vital, but so was Carter and Richards.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 2 @ 9:57 AM ET
Is Luke Schenn (the guy they traded for) not a huge portion of this issue? Schenn is part of the reason our defense is a problem.
- jak521

I disagree. If you pair Schenn with Timonen or MacDonald, he's fine. If you place him with Meszaros or Gustafsson, he struggles. The reason why he struggles seems obvious to me.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 2 @ 9:57 AM ET
He was with the Flyers as well. Never said he wasnt. He just simply is not anywhere close to being the top player on LA or as important as at the very least 3-4 players ahead of him. Period
- GOA88



Oh here we go....
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 2 @ 9:57 AM ET
Never understood why high volume shooters like OV and Carter get knocked... like it's easy putting 3+ shots on net per game or something.
- Tomahawk


It's never a complaint of Steve Stamkos. It's a heavily-biased and undeserved criticism.
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