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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 3 @ 4:20 PM ET
They suck as a unit. I'll reserve the right to say Del Zotto sucks after ten games.
- mayorofangrytown



I disagree. They are a decent defense as a unit. Not a Cup caliber defense, but decent overall. But they aren't a defense unit that is going to be able to overcome not having a solid team structure and forward support in front of them.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 3 @ 4:22 PM ET
mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Oct 3 @ 4:23 PM ET
I disagree. They are a decent defense as a unit. Not a Cup caliber defense, but decent overall. But they aren't a defense unit that is going to be able to overcome not having a solid team structure and forward support in front of them.
- MJL


Saying that the Flyers defense straight up sucks is suspect in that the team made the playoffs last year. I would argue that you gotta have a certain level of serviceable defense in order to make the playoffs, right?

On the other hand, the Flyers defensive corps leaves a heck of a lot to be desired.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 3 @ 4:24 PM ET
My point is. this is the 2nd time they're sending Morin back. even if they demoted him to the AHL it wouldn't change what I'm saying except there'd be an option of him getting a call up.

Voynov spent a yr in the A. Morin spent a year in the Q. Voynov made the big club the next season. Morin got demoted the second season.

- mayorofangrytown


Why do you keep embarrassing yourself by repeating this lie?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 3 @ 4:39 PM ET
I disagree. They are a decent defense as a unit. Not a Cup caliber defense, but decent overall. But they aren't a defense unit that is going to be able to overcome not having a solid team structure and forward support in front of them.
- MJL


All true points....that's why most fans think they should try and upgrade....not that they haven't tried.
However, Some would argue that Morin and Ghost are good enough now to play in top 6.... For now we can only speculate.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Oct 3 @ 4:47 PM ET
And then what do they do after they send Morin back after the 9 games? Play Schultz?
- MJL


I would guess Alt, but that would just be a guess.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 3 @ 4:48 PM ET
Why do you keep embarrassing yourself by repeating this lie?
- Feanor


Hes a glutton for punishment
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 3 @ 4:49 PM ET
Mendes: Senators' Ryan hears from Flyers fans after extension:
http://www.tsn.ca/mendes-...s-after-extension-1.98167
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Oct 3 @ 4:50 PM ET
Rinaldo has actually been looking pretty solid now that he has a few line mates with him that can actually do something. It would be nice for the flyers to have a threat with our fourth line play. They have looked very good this preseason.

Akeson's goal last night was a beauty.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 3 @ 4:56 PM ET
a dark day in flyerdom
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 3 @ 4:59 PM ET
So, Morin's back to junior and Blair Jones won a job. Did I miss anything else?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 3 @ 5:02 PM ET
All true points....that's why most fans think they should try and upgrade....not that they haven't tried.
However, Some would argue that Morin and Ghost are good enough now to play in top 6.... For now we can only speculate.

- landros 2


I think the Flyers are aware that they need to upgrade it also to get to a cup caliber team.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 3 @ 5:03 PM ET
I would guess Alt, but that would just be a guess.
- aflyerpower8



If they felt that Alt was ready for a top 6 spot, why sign Del Zotto?
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Oct 3 @ 5:09 PM ET
If they felt that Alt was ready for a top 6 spot, why sign Del Zotto?
- MJL


Different skill set. Doesn't really matter now since Morin is back in junior.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 3 @ 5:09 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Preseason Finale Wrapup, Simmonds, Morin and More
- bmeltzer

Morin always seemed 50/50 to see nine games but for me the biggest surprise is seeing both Bellemare and Jones stay and Rosehill get sent down. The signing of Stortini makes even less sense now.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 3 @ 5:13 PM ET
Mendes: Senators' Ryan hears from Flyers fans after extension:
http://www.tsn.ca/mendes-...s-after-extension-1.98167

- Tomahawk

Every single ignorant tweet was from me.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Oct 3 @ 5:17 PM ET
“I thought Sam played really well,” said Flyers head coach Craig Berube. “As close to cracking the line-up as you can I think, but for his development and the player that we think he’s going to become and that he thinks he’s going to become… going back to juniors is the best thing for him.”

“We had a lot of conversations about him throughout training camp… he opened some eyes,” said Hextall. “In the end we felt it was the right thing to do and we’re extremely excited about Sam. The kid had a great attitude, I probably sat with him for about a half hour.”
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 3 @ 5:18 PM ET
So, Morin's back to junior and Blair Jones won a job. Did I miss anything else?
- AllInForFlyers


We sent Rosehill to a farm in the countryside... he'll have more space to run and other Rosehills to play with there.

watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Oct 3 @ 5:21 PM ET
Every single ignorant tweet was from me.
- SuperSchennBros

should have traded for him when he was available
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 3 @ 5:22 PM ET
We sent Rosehill to a farm in the countryside... he'll have more space to run and other Rosehills to play with there.

/woof

- Tomahawk


HA! Yeah -- hey, you've watched a long time, like most of us have. The game's changing, or has changed.

I don't think it's a bad thing. I've enjoyed a few fights over the years; I won't deny that. And during that era, fighting was between (mostly) willing combatants.

But ultimately, the NHL's lucky no one's fallen during a fight, cracked their skull and died. Sometimes, you gotta move on.


Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 3 @ 5:30 PM ET
Whoa, wtf:
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 3 @ 5:42 PM ET
HA! Yeah -- hey, you've watched a long time, like most of us have. The game's changing, or has changed.

I don't think it's a bad thing. I've enjoyed a few fights over the years; I won't deny that. And during that era, fighting was between (mostly) willing combatants.

But ultimately, the NHL's lucky no one's fallen during a fight, cracked their skull and died. Sometimes, you gotta move on.

- AllInForFlyers


Rosehill might be on the roster to start the season.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 3 @ 5:43 PM ET
Different skill set. Doesn't really matter now since Morin is back in junior.
- aflyerpower8


Both are puck moving types.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 3 @ 5:44 PM ET
“I thought Sam played really well,” said Flyers head coach Craig Berube. “As close to cracking the line-up as you can I think, but for his development and the player that we think he’s going to become and that he thinks he’s going to become… going back to juniors is the best thing for him.”

“We had a lot of conversations about him throughout training camp… he opened some eyes,” said Hextall. “In the end we felt it was the right thing to do and we’re extremely excited about Sam. The kid had a great attitude, I probably sat with him for about a half hour.”

- aflyerpower8


I remember when the Flyers drafted Morin, and all the complaining. Should've taken someone else. Now there is excitement for the player.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Oct 3 @ 5:50 PM ET
Unexpected roster cuts: Brandon Gormley and Quinton Howden
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