Okay let's play that game. Since the Flyers haven't won the Stanley Cup in 40 years. That means that Lauridsen can replace Grossmann. Solid logic.
- MJL

You lost me? You seemed to think that if the flyers management does or does not do something it HAS to be the right move. Common sense, right?

I'll quote your response -
"Again, let's apply some common sense. If it can be replicated, why aren't [the flyers] doing that? Why didn't they trade Grossmann, save some cap space, and bring up Lauridsen who you say, can replace him?"

What does lauridsen replacing schenn have anything to do with a 40 year Cup drought? The flyers not winning the Stanley cup in 40 years simply means they are not the end all be all experts when it comes to decision making .... Which you clearly implied they are in your quoted response.

now that pre-season arguing is over, let us commence on 5 days of buffer zone arguing, to be followed by 6 months of regular season arguing.

ready? go.

You lost me? You seemed to think that if the flyers management does or does not do something it HAS to be the right move. Common sense, right?

I'll quote your response -
"Again, let's apply some common sense. If it can be replicated, why aren't
- moylander[the flyers] doing that? Why didn't they trade Grossmann, save some cap space, and bring up Lauridsen who you say, can replace him?"

What does lauridsen replacing schenn have anything to do with a 40 year Cup drought? The flyers not winning the Stanley cup in 40 years simply means they are not the end all be all experts when it comes to decision making .... Which you clearly implied they are in your quoted response.

i see we've entered mid-regular season already. you're skipping ahead.

His point has zero to do with what defenseman is NHL ready, or who can replace who. And that the Flyers have not won a Stanely Cup in 40 years is irrelevant to that. Which is the obvious point I made. And I'm aware of the poor point he was trying to make.
- MJL

Whatever dude. No WAY Malkin is better than Crosby.

Smart move with Morin, right Crims

You lost me? You seemed to think that if the flyers management does or does not do something it HAS to be the right move. Common sense, right?

I'll quote your response -
"Again, let's apply some common sense. If it can be replicated, why aren't
- moylander[the flyers] doing that? Why didn't they trade Grossmann, save some cap space, and bring up Lauridsen who you say, can replace him?"

What does lauridsen replacing schenn have anything to do with a 40 year Cup drought? The flyers not winning the Stanley cup in 40 years simply means they are not the end all be all experts when it comes to decision making .... Which you clearly implied they are in your quoted response.

It's quite simple really. If Lauridsen was capable of replacing Grossmann, Grossmann or another player, they would be traded, and Lauridsen would be in the lineup with his 600K cap hit versus a 3.5M or better cap hit with another player.

But you want to deflect the conversation away from who is actually a better player, or who is ready for the NHL or isn't. On to discussing the Flyers overall decision making, as evidence to support your premise. Instead of actually discussing the players themselves.

My point is simply this, Lauridsen, as the Flyers and most fans know. Is not an NHL defenseman at this point in his career. And he may never be. And he is not capable of replacing Grossmann or Schenn, and giving anywhere near a comparable level of play.

From what I've gathered, McKenzie's comments were provided in the context if Morin makes the team. If Morin makes the team, most certainly Grossmann or Schenn would be going. But Morin won't make the team for the full season. So it's null and void. Much like Eklund, McKenzie hears things and reports it. But unlike Eklund, Bob has the reputation of throwing stuff out there that's legitimate 99% of the time.
- KGBflyers10

Morin could have been added to the roster just by demoting Schultz. A trade was not necessary.

Morin could have been added to the roster just by demoting Schultz. A trade was not necessary.
- Feanor

He is back in the best place for him

wilsonecho-

remember this? name the year.

Before he drifted away, now he blindly stuck with Fehr. I guess you're right, He should've left Fehr, who actually scored the goal and was in the dead slot. But I guess it's his fault because he couldn't cover everybody on the play. Let alone let's ignore that Couturier was covering who exactly on the play? Scapegoat is in full effect.
- MJL

You seem to want to chalk it up to bad luck. We're saying the puck never hits Coburn and goes right to Fehr if he isn't scrambling across the crease to cover the guy(s) Amac left open on the other side.

The right play would have been to release Fehr to Coburn, and take the guy that Read released to him. If he had done that, it's probably a routine glove save by Mason.

It's quite simple really. If Lauridsen was capable of replacing Grossmann, Grossmann or another player, they would be traded, and Lauridsen would be in the lineup with his 600K cap hit versus a 3.5M or better cap hit with another player.

But you want to deflect the conversation away from who is actually a better player, or who is ready for the NHL or isn't. On to discussing the Flyers overall decision making, as evidence to support your premise. Instead of actually discussing the players themselves.

My point is simply this, Lauridsen, as the Flyers and most fans know. Is not an NHL defenseman at this point in his career. And he may never be. And he is not capable of replacing Grossmann or Schenn, and giving anywhere near a comparable level of play.
- MJL

You act like a 6-7 year NHL vet is more than he is... Hes an overpaid pilon and a 3rd pairing dman. Trade schenn for a 2nd or something, free up cap, and get a faster player in the lineup that will play system d whether that's ghost, alt, lauridsen at $1 million or less its worth it. I'm tired of watching the same old band of misfits attempting to play defense the last few seasons. They are not good.

From the article I posted re: schenn last season....

The advanced metrics paint an odd and somewhat troubling picture for the Flyers. The most concerning player is Schenn, by far.

He will always (fairly or not) be compared to the player he was traded for (James van Riemsdyk), and he's making a decent amount of money at $3.6 million through 2016. Both of those things cast Schenn in a negative light, but even looking at things objectively reveals some major problems.

Despite having such limited ice time, he still had a stinker of a year. He played against the worst competition of any regular player (defense or forward) with a competition rating of minus-0.732.

He was also extremely sheltered, starting 54.6 percent of his faceoffs in the offensive zone, with Timonen being the only defenseman to start in the offensive zone more often. This makes his lack of scoring even more inexcusable.

And finally, with all of those factors against him, Schenn still had a brutal relative Corsi rating of minus-8.2, meaning that the other team had more possession than the Flyers did while Schenn was on the ice—and by a sizable margin.

This is extremely concerning. Come up with any number of excuses you want, but there's not much to be encouraged about.

He's got the 9th-best even-strength SV% amongst starting goalies over the past 3 seasons... ahead of Quick, Schneider, Luongo, Rinne, Price, etc.
- Tomahawk

Except that he wasn't a starter 2 years ago, and was a split-time starter 3 years back. Not to mention he played on a team that has arguably the best defense in the league for the majority of those games.

wilsonecho-

remember this? name the year.


- hammarby31

1984

His point has zero to do with what defenseman is NHL ready, or who can replace who. And that the Flyers have not won a Stanely Cup in 40 years is irrelevant to that. Which is the obvious point I made. And I'm aware of the poor point he was trying to make.
- MJL

His point is that the team isn't infallible. They do make mistakes, so you can't just assume that what they do is always the correct thing to do.

Basically, just because the Flyers do something doesn't mean it's the correct thing to do, so you can't say "well, the Flyers do this, so you're wrong"

1984
- ob18

wrong.

His point is that the team isn't infallible. They do make mistakes, so you can't just assume that what they do is always the correct thing to do.

Basically, just because the Flyers do something doesn't mean it's the correct thing to do, so you can't say "well, the Flyers do this, so you're wrong"
- PhillySportsGuy

Thank you for being aware of the 'poor' point I was trying to make

whats up with the 'meh' RJ preseason ?
- MrBigglesworth

Yeah, he's been very unnoticeable this preseason to me.

Also, good call by Hexy on Morin. Stay the course and be patient with these D prospects. I think he, Sanheim and Ghost are going to be something else in the not too distant future.

His point is that the team isn't infallible. They do make mistakes, so you can't just assume that what they do is always the correct thing to do.

Basically, just because the Flyers do something doesn't mean it's the correct thing to do, so you can't say "well, the Flyers do this, so you're wrong"
- PhillySportsGuy

"But Bill said..."

I think his point is that the Flyers aren't always right.

That being said, Lauridson is not an NHL player, imo
- PhillySportsGuy

Yep, I think the Flyers have made a decision on Old Ollie.

I suspect he'll be in another organization next year.

Yep, I think the Flyers have made a decision on Old Ollie.

I suspect he'll win the Norris in another organization next year.
- johndewar

ftfy

Thank you for being aware of the 'poor' point I was trying to make
- moylander

So...Lauridsen top pair with Coburn?

LSchenn played a really solid game and isn't being traded. Get over it.

He is back in the best place for him
- ob18

Agreed
Though if it was possible, and yes I know its not, I feel the AHL would be a better place for him.

So...Lauridsen top pair with Coburn?
- jmatchett383

Lol.

Actually I'd like to see a guy like alt replacing Grossmann if I had my way. Also I always thought Gus played well when called up but you know... When the organization makes a decision its gotta be right, right?

So Rosehill got sent down to the A..