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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 8 @ 8:31 AM ET
Completely missing the point. It's not about an opinion. It's simply about recognizing the possibility that they could get better. And being open to that possibility. And that there are plenty of reason to beleive that it is possible that they could improve in areas such as 5 on 5 play. And that the only truly way to know, is for them to actually play some games. Or you can go with your statement that they have not improved at 5 on 5 play, before they have played one single game.

You've written positive things in passing. But day after day, it's been pessimism, and that is the tone for the season befoe it even begins from many on here. And that's on you. And it is sad.

- MJL


My opinion has zero impact on what the team will do, just as your opinion has zero impact. I was under the impression that we were allowed to share opinions, good or bad.

You don't like my opinions? Feel free to ignore my posts. Don't nitpick and downplay the positive things I've written to focus on the criticism I've given. Sorry, just don't see them being much better this year than last.

If you find that sad, well honestly I couldn't care less. My opinion is no less valid than yours
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 8 @ 8:37 AM ET
My opinion has zero impact on what the team will do, just as your opinion has zero impact. I was under the impression that we were allowed to share opinions, good or bad.

You don't like my opinions? Feel free to ignore my posts. Don't nitpick and downplay the positive things I've written to focus on the criticism I've given. Sorry, just don't see them being much better this year than last.

If you find that sad, well honestly I couldn't care less. My opinion is no less valid than yours

- Jsaquella



I've never stated that my opinion is more valid, or that yours are less valid. Only that there are possibilities of it going both ways. And that the only way to know is for them to actually play a game.

Or you can go the other way, and state that they haven't improved at 5 on 5 play, before even playing a single game.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Oct 8 @ 8:41 AM ET
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Oct 8 @ 8:45 AM ET
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Oct 8 @ 8:46 AM ET
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Oct 8 @ 8:46 AM ET
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 8 @ 8:50 AM ET
I've never stated that my opinion is more valid, or that yours are less valid. Only that there are possibilities of it going both ways. And that the only way to know is for them to actually play a game.

Or you can go the other way, and state that they haven't improved at 5 on 5 play, before even playing a single game.

- MJL


Yes, so how is it you can take the same circumstances and state they will be better having not played a single game. Funny you have one standard for yourself and another for those who disagree with you.

Also, FWIW, I've never said they will be worse this season than last. I've repeatedly said that I feel they made lateral moves and that teams that were behind them in the standings improved, which is why a playoff spot is no guarantee. Saying they could be POTENTIALLY worse is not the same as saying they will DEFINITELY be worse.

Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Oct 8 @ 8:50 AM ET
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 8 @ 8:52 AM ET

- tangent_man


It could be worse. You could have my day-a fun day of training cancelled at the last minute so I can do a big project that will require a load of work
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Oct 8 @ 8:55 AM ET
Bill Meltzer needs to get fired.

It's nearly 9 AM and not Gameday blog yet.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Oct 8 @ 8:56 AM ET
Bill Meltzer needs to get fired.

It's nearly 9 AM and not Gameday blog yet.

- KGBflyers10


I don't know what to do with my hands
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 8 @ 9:00 AM ET
Bill Meltzer needs to get fired.

It's nearly 9 AM and not Gameday blog yet.

- KGBflyers10

Somebody wake up ggunky too ... Need to copy and paste that lets go flyers thing to my facebook feed
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 8 @ 9:02 AM ET
Bill Meltzer needs to get fired.

It's nearly 9 AM and not Gameday blog yet.

- KGBflyers10


Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 8 @ 9:02 AM ET
Somebody wake up ggunky too ... Need to copy and paste that lets go flyers thing to my facebook feed
- JoeRussomanno

If anyone comments on Bill's blog before him so help me god...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 8 @ 9:03 AM ET
Bill Meltzer needs to get fired.

It's nearly 9 AM and not Gameday blog yet.

- KGBflyers10


Maybe he got the ebola
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 8 @ 9:05 AM ET
Maybe he got the ebola
- Jsaquella


Possible. He does commit blogdultery and write for the Dallas Stars too.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 8 @ 9:05 AM ET
Yes, so how is it you can take the same circumstances and state they will be better having not played a single game. Funny you have one standard for yourself and another for those who disagree with you.


- Jsaquella


You are incorrect here. I have not stated that they will be better. Only that they can be better and it is a possibility that they can be better. And that there are reasons to be optimistic.



Also, FWIW, I've never said they will be worse this season than last. I've repeatedly said that I feel they made lateral moves and that teams that were behind them in the standings improved, which is why a playoff spot is no guarantee. Saying they could be POTENTIALLY worse is not the same as saying they will DEFINITELY be worse.

- Jsaquella



You made the exact statement on a previous page in this thread that, and I quote "the Flyers have not improved at 5 on 5 play"

it has been all pessimism, and very little optimism.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 8 @ 9:12 AM ET
You are incorrect here. I have not stated that they will be better. Only that they can be better and it is a possibility that they can be better. And that there are reasons to be optimistic.




You made the exact statement on a previous page in this thread that, and I quote "the Flyers have not improved at 5 on 5 play"

it has been all pessimism, and very little optimism.

- MJL


Ok captain literal. You want me to pull a post I wrote from a few pages ago that is two paragraphs of positivity?

So there, it hasn't been all pessimissim. And even if it has, who cares? Again, you're more than free to ignore my posts
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 8 @ 9:13 AM ET
Possible. He does commit blogdultery and write for the Dallas Stars too.
- johndewar


He's cured, but Gunky wasn't first , so we are screwed
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Oct 8 @ 9:17 AM ET
This is not a great start to the season, boys.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 8 @ 9:45 AM ET
He's cured, but Gunky wasn't first , so we are screwed
- Jsaquella

Bob ryab fist!
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 8 @ 10:36 AM ET
TSN has them #25 in their rankings to start the year, perhaps if they had Kimmo they'd have been a bit higher.
- ob18



25 ?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 8 @ 10:38 AM ET
I vote for this one
- BulliesPhan87



+1
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 8 @ 10:40 AM ET

- Pixote Andolini



JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 8 @ 11:59 AM ET
Oh poop yeah, I'm wrong all the time. I thought Lecavalier would be a solid addition. Now I'd like to go back in a DeLorean and kill that deal. I thought Bryz would be a good addition, and we saw how that ended up. Hell, I hope I am completely wrong, that MacDonald plays like Timonen and MDZ returns to the form he showed a couple years ago when he was playing 22 minutes a night and scored 40 points.

I hope Vinny and Umberger have a great year together. I hope Rinaldo becomes a Laperriere clone and is a valuable guy. Because all those things would mean the team I root for has a far better shot at winning. I'm not exactly happy that I don't think the Flyers are a contending team. I get no joy in saying critical things about them. I'm just relaying my honest opinion.

- Jsaquella

You're a lot more right than wrong bro and even if I disagree with you I notice that you form your opinion objectively.
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