I liked what I saw from Bellemare. Fourth line looks pretty decent this year.

And that 2-on-1 with Schenn and Voracek was sad. Schenn's shot made me laugh.....and cry
- Streit2ThePoint

Schenn looked tense on the 1st line. He kept passing into Voracek's and Giroux's skates, if they were clean passes they could have had some nice chances and decent cycle's. How long do we experiment with Schenn on that wing, because right now it sure doesnt look like Vinny is moving from center. He looked good!

Reminds me of game 7 to the Rangers last year...just 1 goal difference and half a step behind. Just not quite up to the level of the league elite. 1 game down 81 to go. We shall see how things progress.

I saw some good things and bad things last night. The most encouraging thing was Mason looked very sharp. Other than a few plays....I thought the defense looked fairly good. Coburn IMO was the worst of the bunch. Amac was solid. Schenn was good other than a couple turnovers. Overall the things that were lacking last night seemed mostly to do with rust and chemistry which will all come in time. So right now they have already started this season better than last. We MUST beat NJ tonight and get something positive going though.
- GOA88

It's one game, so I'm not rushing to judgement yet. But my worry with this team is that if you shut the G line down, you can beat this team. There is no dynamic 2nd line that you had to occasionally match Bergeron against. I think in some ways they really miss the Briere line of a few years ago.

I think the effort was there, but there was never really a moment where Rask was worried that he might have to change his shorts at the break. On the other hand, Boston seemed to have a ton of scoring chances, quite a few on odd man rushes.

Schenn looked tense on the 1st line. He kept passing into Voracek's and Giroux's skates, if they were clean passes they could have had some nice chances and decent cycle's. How long do we experiment with Schenn on that wing, because right now it sure doesnt look like Vinny is moving from center. He looked good!
- GOA88

Probably longer than 1 game.

at least it wasn't the white knuckler or around the hump.

i thought the flyers would lose 3-0; 4-1 something like that. it just sucks a garbage goal won the game with under 2 minutes to go. another regulation loss in the 3rd.
- hammarby31

Bad luck. Flyers walk away with at least a point if the Bruins stick didnt break. They honestly didnt really deserve the point anyways....

Some things i took away.

1) Rinaldo should have drew a penalty after he hit Robbins when McQuaid crosschecked him BUT he can't be taking that dumb penalty against Krug. It was a selfish play. He was noticeible with his speed and the fourth line actually kept the puck in the offensive zone for good stretches.

2) Bellemare's speed is very clear and he also seems strong enough to fend players off while holding the puck. Think he will be a pleasent suprise.

3) Mason was solid so that is a good start.

4) Giroux line needs to be more assertive. I want them to be more aggressive.

5) Vinny line is very much the 3rd line. Really didn't notice when they were out.

6) Thought the defense did a half decent job, allowed Mason to track pucks. But one thing I did notice is that Gostisbeire will be with this team sooner then later. His offensive instincts will be someting this team needs as they didn't really get anything from the defense in the offensive zone

Schenn looked tense on the 1st line. He kept passing into Voracek's and Giroux's skates, if they were clean passes they could have had some nice chances and decent cycle's. How long do we experiment with Schenn on that wing, because right now it sure doesnt look like Vinny is moving from center. He looked good!
- GOA88

Yeah, and Schenn attempting a risky play near the blueline let to the winning goal! Plus the Flyers had like one odd man rush, and he shoots it into the guy's breadbasket.

I think Schenn would be a nice 2nd line winger. Long term though, they really do need to upgrade the 1st line LW position.

I liked what I saw from Vinnie. I was going to post my bold predictions yesterday and decided not to bore you guys, but one of them was Vinnie leading the team in points by December and getting traded before the end of the year or early January.

It's one game, so I'm not rushing to judgement yet. But my worry with this team is that if you shut the G line down, you can beat this team. There is no dynamic 2nd line that you had to occasionally match Bergeron against. I think in some ways they really miss the Briere line of a few years ago.

I think the effort was there, but there was never really a moment where Rask was worried that he might have to change his shorts at the break. On the other hand, Boston seemed to have a ton of scoring chances, quite a few on odd man rushes.
- TheGreat28

Nothing about that game really worried me. I thought that every line misfired. Bad bounces or trying to hard to make the nice play. Whatever it was, I think it will smooth out and you are right that we dont have a "Dynamic" 2nd line but it does look like we will be able to roll 3 lines at you all night long and get production from all 3 this season. The 4th line brings a lot of energy. I like it!

Some things i took away.

1) Rinaldo should have drew a penalty after he hit Robbins when McQuaid crosschecked him BUT he can't be taking that dumb penalty against Krug. It was a selfish play. He was noticeible with his speed and the fourth line actually kept the puck in the offensive zone for good stretches.

2) Bellemare's speed is very clear and he also seems strong enough to fend players off while holding the puck. Think he will be a pleasent suprise.

3) Mason was solid so that is a good start.

4) Giroux line needs to be more assertive. I want them to be more aggressive.

5) Vinny line is very much the 3rd line. Really didn't notice when they were out.

6) Thought the defense did a half decent job, allowed Mason to track pucks. But one thing I did notice is that Gostisbeire will be with this team sooner then later. His offensive instincts will be someting this team needs as they didn't really get anything from the defense in the offensive zone
- J35Bacher

So, we need to move a D man. Why not a package of B. Schenn and Coburn to Winnipeg for Kane and a pick? That makes room for Ghost and helps blue line offense as well as solves the ? At wing.

Nothing about that game really worried me. I thought that every line misfired. Bad bounces or trying to hard to make the nice play. Whatever it was, I think it will smooth out and you are right that we dont have a "Dynamic" 2nd line but it does look like we will be able to roll 3 lines at you all night long and get production from all 3 this season. The 4th line brings a lot of energy. I like it!
- GOA88

I think that if you don't have a great 2nd line, being able to roll 3 or better yet, 4 lines is the next best thing. But G is going to have a tough time against teams with really strong D or a shutdown guy like Bergeron. G obviously had a great year last year, so hopefully he can work through it again this year.

So, we need to move a D man. Why not a package of B. Schenn and Coburn to Winnipeg for Kane and a pick? That makes room for Ghost and helps blue line offense as well as solves the ? At wing.
- section32

I keep waiting for Schenn to be more than he is AND...... I keep waiting. Flyers should probably deal him for a LW....

Yeah, and Schenn attempting a risky play near the blueline let to the winning goal! Plus the Flyers had like one odd man rush, and he shoots it into the guy's breadbasket.

I think Schenn would be a nice 2nd line winger. Long term though, they really do need to upgrade the 1st line LW position.

I liked what I saw from Vinnie. I was going to post my bold predictions yesterday and decided not to bore you guys, but one of them was Vinnie leading the team in points by December and getting traded before the end of the year or early January.
- TheGreat28

See below. Package of Schenn and Cobie for E. Kane and a pick.

So, we need to move a D man. Why not a package of B. Schenn and Coburn to Winnipeg for Kane and a pick? That makes room for Ghost and helps blue line offense as well as solves the ? At wing.
- section32

I think you'd have to add in more. What about Laughton, B Schenn and Coburn?

I think that if you don't have a great 2nd line, being able to roll 3 or better yet, 4 lines is the next best thing. But G is going to have a tough time against teams with really strong D or a shutdown guy like Bergeron. G obviously had a great year last year, so hopefully he can work through it again this year.
- TheGreat28

He'll be fine. Im not worried. He was obviously rusty last night.

I think the lines, offensive and defensive, just need a few games to gel together.

S-G-V looked ok but Schenn seems out of place. Its one game, I think he can grow into the roll...but it better be quick

R-C-S - Read and Couts looked fine (and Couts seems to have stepped up into some offense with no problem) but Simmonds seemed out of place on the line. A few more games together and I think they'll be fine.

R-L-U - Early on I thought Raffl was doing ok and taking up the defensive slack for the other two, but then he seemed to be pushing too hard. I still worry about this line defensively.

R-B-A - They had the most cohesion for a line. Rinaldo continues to skirt the line of being a valuable/costly member but Akeson and Bellemare not only looked pretty ok, they can both spell people on the 3 top lines.

I keep waiting for Schenn to be more than he is AND...... I keep waiting. Flyers should probably deal him for a LW....
- GOA88

Same here. He's not a rookie anymore. Wonder what it would take to pry evander loose from the Jets.

I think the lines, offensive and defensive, just need a few games to gel together.

S-G-V looked ok but Schenn seems out of place. Its one game, I think he can grow into the roll...but it better be quick

R-C-S - Read and Couts looked fine (and Couts seems to have stepped up into some offense with no problem) but Simmonds seemed out of place on the line. A few more games together and I think they'll be fine.

R-L-U - Early on I thought Raffl was doing ok and taking up the defensive slack for the other two, but then he seemed to be pushing too hard. I still worry about this line defensively.

R-B-A - They had the most cohesion for a line. Rinaldo continues to skirt the line of being a valuable/costly member but Akeson and Bellemare not only looked pretty ok, they can both spell people on the 3 top lines.
- shekkie

If you are Berube, do you bench Rinaldo and put in Jones on the 4th line to send an early message to Rinaldo?

He did some really nice things, but nearly cost them the game. I think the 2nd PP gave a lot of momentum back to the B's.

Same here. He's not a rookie anymore. Wonder what it would take to pry evander loose from the Jets.
- section32

IDK. more than it's worth?... Kane's skating would be welcome though. Schenn could very well fill Hartnells shoes as he is more talented and plays physical but he needs to figure it out soon cause if this continues (I know its only 1 game against the Bruins) he will find himself on the trade block.

I was disappointed they didn't get at least a point out of that game.
BSchenn did not look comfortable and G just got worked over in the face off circle.

They lost the draw on every PP and when that happens you usually have at least a good 30 seconds taken off your PP.

I really liked PEB and that whole line along with Mason I thought they were the Flyers best players

If you are Berube, do you bench Rinaldo and put in Jones on the 4th line to send an early message to Rinaldo?

He did some really nice things, but nearly cost them the game. I think the 2nd PP gave a lot of momentum back to the B's.
- TheGreat28

I would'nt. If it continues... yep! Overall, Rinaldo played a good game and that 4th line was tough for Boston to handle.

Same here. He's not a rookie anymore. Wonder what it would take to pry evander loose from the Jets.
- section32

I would love to, but do you think any big deal would be done this early in the season?

I doubt it.

So, we need to move a D man. Why not a package of B. Schenn and Coburn to Winnipeg for Kane and a pick? That makes room for Ghost and helps blue line offense as well as solves the ? At wing.
- section32

I don't know. I don't think you can move Coburn easily as he plays the most minutes and takes up the toughest minutes. Also it is just one game so I will give it time but Gostisbiere brings something to the table that would be an asset to this team. Bruins dmen were getting shots. It was something the Flyers could have used on thier end.

I would love to, but do you think any big deal would be done this early in the season?

I doubt it.
- 3flyerkids

They will give Schenn as much time as they can stand to fit in on that line. We'll see. Have to also figure that Voracek was the only guy on that line that was good. Giroux HAS to be the driving force and he is clearly rusty right now.

If you are Berube, do you bench Rinaldo and put in Jones on the 4th line to send an early message to Rinaldo?

He did some really nice things, but nearly cost them the game. I think the 2nd PP gave a lot of momentum back to the B's.
- TheGreat28

Yes. I usually defend Rinaldo but the selfish penalties like the one on krug can't happen. I know he needs to play on the edge but stuff like that won't help. I am ok if he gets a penalty for being aggressive during play or defending a teammate but not on something 150ft from play. I would make the statement early and play jones tonight

I didn't take it like (frank) the Flyers. But I think you're right on the rest of it. I think his point was more that Pronger can be unbiased because he would be collecting the money from the Flyers regardless of whether he took the job or not. So he can disassociate himself with the team.

I think it is an indication that they would not force him to retire and screw the Flyers in the process. It's the only possible outcome that would work for all parties in my mind.
The PA will be fine with it because Pronger still collects his pay, so no precedents there. The teams will accept it because it doesn't change the Flyers cap situation. They'd never accept an exemption that allowed Pronger to come off the cap. And the Flyers will accept it because it doesn't really change their situation a all.
- TheGreat28

If Pronger retired, the Flyers cap situation would be massively affected. If he's retired, they lose LTIR exemption, which means they can't use any of his $4.91mm, it would just be dead space

EDIT: just saw somebody tweet that Elliotte Friedman says they're working on creating a rule that would keep a player's contract as status quo, and allow him to work in another capacity. If that's the case, great, because otherwise the Flyers would be screwed