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NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Oct 10 @ 9:20 AM ET
Joni's done.

I might take a chance on Morris.

- Feanor


Morris is really the only guy I'd legitimately consider but even he would be light-years from ideal.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 10 @ 9:20 AM ET
If Ghost comes up he would also see big minutes... I think it cant hurt for a couple of games.
- jak521


I think he's in the A to refine his game, and I'd like to see him stay there until at least mid season. Having said that, i'd be excited to see how he does at this level.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 10 @ 9:20 AM ET
-5 for Schenn is ugly... but when the SV% when you're on the ice is .285, you're probably experiencing some crazy luck, too. Having two partners (Streit/MDZ) who are constantly pinching, and being stuck on the ice w/ guys like VL and the G-line who you don't exactly want playing the last line of defense on a rotation, hurt too.

MDZ, same story w/ luck... SV% was .500 for him. I felt like he actually had a pretty good game despite the ugly -4 -- definitely was their best transition guy and created a ton of chances on net, including 5 SOG. The forwards just did a really bad job of covering for his pinches.

Streit/Grossmann had the worst showing... brutal. Coots line got eaten alive too. It's sad because those two groups carried the Flyers during the opener.

Silver lining is still that 4th-line... and Chief looks like he's starting to up their icetime.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 10 @ 9:20 AM ET
Weren't you going on about how Luke Schenn shouldn't be condemned after 2 games?
- NickTheKid87


don't be silly....he should of been condemed for a boat load of putrid play last year!!
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 10 @ 9:21 AM ET
Morris is really the only guy I'd legitimately consider but even he would be light-years from ideal.
- NickTheKid87


Isn't Morris more of an offensive Dman?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 10 @ 9:21 AM ET
Sarich was run over by a truck this summer.


Would probably still be an improvement.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 10 @ 9:22 AM ET
-5 for Schenn is ugly... but when the SV% when you're on the ice is .285, you're probably experiencing some crazy luck, too. Having two partners (Streit/MDZ) who are constantly pinching, and being stuck on the ice w/ guys like VL and the G-line who you don't exactly want playing the last line of defense on a rotation, hurt too.

MDZ, same story w/ luck... SV% was .500 for him. I felt like he actually had a pretty good game despite the ugly -4 -- definitely was their best transition guy and created a ton of chances on net, including 5 SOG. The forwards just did a really bad job of covering for his pinches.

Streit/Grossmann had the worst showing... brutal. Coots line got eaten alive too. It's sad because those two groups carried the Flyers during the opener.

Silver lining is still that 4th-line... and Chief looks like he's starting to up their icetime.

- Tomahawk


hahah .285 LOL.. I'd be tarred and feathered by my teammates if that were my stats while anyone was on the ice.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 10 @ 9:22 AM ET
I am not ready to write this team off yet after 2 games. They have enough offense to compete with anyone. I think we will see guys like Alt and Gostisbiere sooner then later though. Their skating and puck skills are just to hard to ignore. I could see Grossmann or Schenn being moved to free up a spot and it would give a little cap help.



NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Oct 10 @ 9:22 AM ET
Isn't Morris more of an offensive Dman?
- Hextall271


He's kind of a two way guy. Or at least was.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 10 @ 9:22 AM ET
-5 for Schenn is ugly... but when the SV% when you're on the ice is .285, you're probably experiencing some crazy luck, too. Having two partners (Streit/MDZ) who are constantly pinching, and being stuck on the ice w/ guys like VL and the G-line who you don't exactly want playing the last line of defense on a rotation, hurt too.

MDZ, same story w/ luck... SV% was .500 for him. I felt like he actually had a pretty good game despite the ugly -4 -- definitely was their best transition guy and created a ton of chances on net, including 5 SOG. The forwards just did a really bad job of covering for his pinches.

Streit/Grossmann had the worst showing... brutal. Coots line got eaten alive too. It's sad because those two groups carried the Flyers during the opener.

Silver lining is still that 4th-line... and Chief looks like he's starting to up their icetime.

- Tomahawk


Artie Akeson was getting first line minutes by the end of the game.

Honestly, I don't see why not at this point.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 10 @ 9:23 AM ET
Sarich was run over by a truck this summer.


Would probably still be an improvement.

- hereticpride



ha well at least this trian wreck wouldn't scare him.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 10 @ 9:24 AM ET
He's kind of a two way guy. Or at least was.
- NickTheKid87



That's it... sign him hexy!
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Oct 10 @ 9:24 AM ET
I am not ready to write this team off yet after 2 games. They have enough offense to compete with anyone. I think we will see guys like Alt and Gostisbiere sooner then later though. Their skating and puck skills are just to hard to ignore. I could see Grossmann or Schenn being moved to free up a spot and it would give a little cap help.
- J35Bacher

your lips to God's ears
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Oct 10 @ 9:25 AM ET
I am not ready to write this team off yet after 2 games. They have enough offense to compete with anyone. I think we will see guys like Alt and Gostisbiere sooner then later though. Their skating and puck skills are just to hard to ignore. I could see Grossmann or Schenn being moved to free up a spot and it would give a little cap help.
- J35Bacher

I honestly dont know who would want Schenn?
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Oct 10 @ 9:25 AM ET
I am not ready to write this team off yet after 2 games. They have enough offense to compete with anyone. I think we will see guys like Alt and Gostisbiere sooner then later though. Their skating and puck skills are just to hard to ignore. I could see Grossmann or Schenn being moved to free up a spot and it would give a little cap help.
- J35Bacher

Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 10 @ 9:25 AM ET
your lips to God's ears
- vejim



I have no idea what we'd get back for them.. it'd be a dump.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 10 @ 9:27 AM ET
I honestly dont know who would want Schenn?
- vejim


I can guarantee you that Brian Burke still has a hard on for both Schenns.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 10 @ 9:28 AM ET
Kent Huskins.


Not the D man we deserve. Bu t the D man we need.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 10 @ 9:29 AM ET
it's gonna be a long season
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 10 @ 9:31 AM ET
Artie Akeson was getting first line minutes by the end of the game.

Honestly, I don't see why not at this point.

- johndewar



I didn't even notice that. Probably because I was in full fetal mode on the floor after 10/40/17 were reunited.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 10 @ 9:32 AM ET
It was one game. Lets see how he does over the next 10.

Even Ryan Parent had an occasional good game.

- jak521



Yes, and even a good defenseman has an occasional bad game.

And last night, Schultz showed that he can come in as a 7th defenseman who is experienced and can play reasonably well. That is the definition of depth.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 10 @ 9:38 AM ET
Yes, and even a good defenseman has an occasional bad game.
- MJL

Note sure how that pertains to use having a mediocre at best defense with next to no depth, but yes, I agree.

EDIT: Unless you are saying that he is a good d-man.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 10 @ 9:40 AM ET
Note sure how that pertains to use having a mediocre at best defense with next to no depth, but yes, I agree.

EDIT: Unless you are saying that he is a good d-man.

- jak521



It pertains to your comment that even Ryan Parent had an occasional good game. How it pertains is pretty obvious.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 10 @ 9:42 AM ET
It pertains to your comment that even Ryan Parent had an occasional good game. How it pertains is pretty obvious.
- MJL

Not at all obvious.

I said you are high. And that we have next to no depth defensively. You made some laughy face guy comment about Schultz having a good game. Then you said even good d-men have bad games.

How does that at all relate to the depth of our defense?

Sorry, I am not very intelligent.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 10 @ 9:46 AM ET
Not at all obvious.

I said you are high. And that we have next to no depth defensively. You made some laughy face guy comment about Schultz having a good game. Then you said even good d-men have bad games.

How does that at all relate to the depth of our defense?

Sorry, I am not very intelligent.

- jak521


Why waste your time man. They could be 0-35-3 with a top pairing of Lilja and Rathje and they would all poop rainbows.
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