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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 5:03 PM ET
I thought Maatta was ranked closer to 10-12
- MrBigglesworth


Fair enough. So why did the other 10-12 teams fail to capitalize on this superstar?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 5:04 PM ET
Not convinced the Flyers would have taken Hamilton... probably would have taken Oleksiak or Siemens.
- Tomahawk


Coots is a bust. Dougie Hamilton is a future HOFer.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 10 @ 5:04 PM ET
Not convinced the Flyers would have taken Hamilton... probably would have taken Oleksiak or Siemens.
- Tomahawk


I won't even lie: That was the last draft I studied intensely, and I wanted them to draft Siemens

Yeah, I own it
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Oct 10 @ 5:05 PM ET
Fair enough. So why did the other 10-12 teams fail to capitalize on this superstar?
- jmatchett383


I think all(or most) of the teams in between took forwards
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 5:05 PM ET
Shame the Flyers didn't make a crazy off-the wall pick and reach for that Shea Weber guy instead of captain alcohol in 2003.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 10 @ 5:06 PM ET
Well at least you can choose your friends, LOL

Don't feel bad, every time the Flyers acquire a player my dads first question is: Can he fight?

- BiggE


At least they're Flyer fans though. And they have season tickets so I get to go to games for free a lot. I'll put up with the Coburn Sucks BS for that.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 5:06 PM ET
I think all(or most) of the teams in between took forwards
- MrBigglesworth


So it's okay for them to take forwards, but not for the Flyers to?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 10 @ 5:07 PM ET
I won't even lie: That was the last draft I studied intensely, and I wanted them to draft Siemens

Yeah, I own it

- AllInForFlyers


I absolve you.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 10 @ 5:09 PM ET
tied for second in goal scoring on the team, third for points
- BulliesPhan87

and maata is on pace for 200+ points this year
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Oct 10 @ 5:10 PM ET
So it's okay for them to take forwards, but not for the Flyers to?
- jmatchett383


everyone knew we were desperate for D since the Pronger ordeal.

Doug Hamilton has almost exactly half the games and also half the points as Coots, and he would fill a big defensive need for us.

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 10 @ 5:10 PM ET
So...what point are you making? It was bad for them to reach for Laughton but good to reach for Giroux?
- jmatchett383

other teams passed over the superstar giroux
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 5:11 PM ET
everyone knew we were desperate for D since the Pronger ordeal.

Doug Hamilton has almost exactly half the games and also half the points as Coots, and he would fill a big defensive need for us.

- MrBigglesworth


Dougie Hamilton also plays on a far superior team with a Norris Tophy winner.

But we weren't talking about "need", you brought up BPA. So why didn't those other 10-12 teams take Mattam the BPA?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 5:12 PM ET
other teams passed over the superstar giroux
- 2Real


So you're saying that, even though he wasn't that highly ranked, it was good that the Flyers "reached" on him?
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Oct 10 @ 5:12 PM ET
Dougie Hamilton also plays on a far superior team with a Norris Tophy winner.

But we weren't talking about "need", you brought up BPA. So why didn't those other 10-12 teams take Mattam the BPA?

- jmatchett383


Drafting a forward was just not addressing our teams needs at that time.
Other teams were simply not as depserate for D as we were.

The simple question is, would you rather have Coots and Laughton or Hamilton and Maatta right now ?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 10 @ 5:13 PM ET
So you're saying that, even though he wasn't that highly ranked, it was good that the Flyers "reached" on him?
- jmatchett383

and other teams passed on the superstar maatta
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 5:13 PM ET
Drafting a forward was just not addressing our teams needs at that time.
Other teams were simply not as depserate for D as we were.

- MrBigglesworth


So you've gone from drafting by need to drafting BPA. Which is it?
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Oct 10 @ 5:13 PM ET
and maata is on pace for 200+ points this year
- 2Real


If the Pens were smart, they'd move Malkin and sign Maata to a long term, mega-mil deal now.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 10 @ 5:13 PM ET
Drafting a forward was just not addressing our teams needs at that time.
Other teams were simply not as depserate for D as we were.

The simple question is, would you rather have Coots and Laughton or Hamilton and Maatta right now ?

- MrBigglesworth

what about coots and maatta
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 5:14 PM ET
and other teams passed on the superstar maatta
- 2Real


Okay. So the Flyers have made some good reaches and bad (fairly unknown, really) reaches. Okay.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 10 @ 5:14 PM ET
Coots is a bust. Dougie Hamilton is a future HOFer.
- jmatchett383

why do you think coots fell to us
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 10 @ 5:14 PM ET
Okay. So the Flyers have made some good reaches and bad (fairly unknown, really) reaches. Okay.
- jmatchett383

yes the flyers have done somethings
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Oct 10 @ 5:15 PM ET
what about coots and maatta
- 2Real


or this!

yes!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 10 @ 5:15 PM ET
why do you think coots fell to us
- 2Real


Because he got mono and had to sit out a large portion of his draft season.
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Oct 10 @ 5:17 PM ET
Because he got mono and had to sit out a large portion of his draft season.
- jmatchett383



come on ,.. in 2008 we could have had both Eberle AND Carlson!

jeez
Olli_Maatta
Joined: 03.07.2014

Oct 10 @ 5:17 PM ET
and maata is on pace for 200+ points this year
- 2Real

And don't you forget it.
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