Standing at the craps table...cmon MCdavid
- jmdodgeser4

I still think this team manages to make the playoffs. Hoping for McDavid is something I cant get on board with. Might as well be a Pens fan.

Hextall said that Coburn will be re-evaluated in the next couple of days, and I think a decision of some sort will have to be made if his injury will keep him out for an extended period.

I just hope Hexy stick with his 'patience' plan and doesn't do anything drastic. If it means a down year (meaning more down than we expected), this is the year for it to happen.
- tangent_man

I thnk Hexy will stick to the plan. It's a building year really. They're not a contender and if it becomes apparent that they can't make the playoffs, we might as well be in the lottery picks.

Anyone see the Oilers lose the home opener last night... another jersey thrown on the ice.. hahaha? Will that team ever turn the corner? Wow..

I still think this team manages to make the playoffs. Hoping for McDavid is something I cant get on board with. Might as well be a Pens fan.
- GOA88

Yeah, hasn't worked for the Oilers. I still want them to make the playoffs but a top pick is tempting.

I fully expect the Flyers to turn it around. Their defense is not ideal, and losing Coburn hurts. But this defense is still capable.
- MJL

The individual dmen are capable, however the unit as a whole is not. None of the remaining 6 vets can successfully match up against top lines and the overall group lacks speed and to a lesser degree skill. Without Coburn, this D corps ranks in the bottom third of the league. Thats not being negative, its being realistic.

I still think this team manages to make the playoffs. Hoping for McDavid is something I cant get on board with. Might as well be a Pens fan.
- GOA88

Im not a pens fan!!!!! I want a lottery pick!! everyone else gets one....what about us!!!

Every time the Devils scored it seemed like the same five guys were on the ice. Top line+ Schenn and Del Zotto. I don't think Schenn and Del Zotto should get the blame alone. The top line is horrible right now. They can't score at even strength and they are giving up a ton of goals.

Possibly but rolling schenn out there after 3 years, seeing the same routine of him constantly out of position, and expecting different results seems insane.
- JoeRussomanno

do you just cut the cord and trade for whatever you can get at this point? or do you wait it out andmaybe play him with someone else?

still time to right the ship, get some stupidity out of the lineup
- JoeRussomanno

Right now it'd be a panic move. I'm not necessarily against it, but might as well try to maximize the return. I have no desire to see two bad games turn into a bunch of panic trades or to cause an abandonment of the plan for the long term.

Once they decided to be patient, you had to know there'd be bumps in the road. They're not as bad as they looked last nigh.

The individual dmen are capable, however the unit as a whole is not. None of the remaining 6 vets can successfully match up against top lines and the overall group lacks speed and to a lesser degree skill. Without Coburn, this D corps ranks in the bottom third of the league. Thats not being negative, its being realistic.
- BiggE

Without Coburn.... Yes. With Coburn they are still middle pack at best.....

The individual dmen are capable, however the unit as a whole is not. None of the remaining 6 vets can successfully match up against top lines and the overall group lacks speed and to a lesser degree skill. Without Coburn, this D corps ranks in the bottom third of the league. Thats not being negative, its being realistic.
- BiggE

Not having coburn (or mason) is this season's worst case scenario

You must be new here. Welcome to Flyers Country.
- tangent_man

Love the avatar

The individual dmen are capable, however the unit as a whole is not. None of the remaining 6 vets can successfully match up against top lines and the overall group lacks speed and to a lesser degree skill. Without Coburn, this D corps ranks in the bottom third of the league. Thats not being negative, its being realistic.
- BiggE

Can't say Italy better than that. A fact is a fact

Right now it'd be a panic move. I'm not necessarily against it, but might as well try to maximize the return. I have no desire to see two bad games turn into a bunch of panic trades or to cause an abandonment of the plan for the long term.

Once they decided to be patient, you had to know there'd be bumps in the road. They're not as bad as they looked last nigh.
- Jsaquella

No way they play like this all season but these bad starts are very frustrating and unprofessional. IMO

do you just cut the cord and trade for whatever you can get at this point? or do you wait it out andmaybe play him with someone else?
- rinaldo

Cut the cord, he's gone through a few partners... Same old song and dance , let's change the record.

Not having coburn (or mason) is this season's worst case scenario
- JoeRussomanno

100% agree. If G went down at least they have scoring/Center depth. Mason going down is the worst case scenario. Coburn is a close second.

Love the avatar

- BiggE

An oldie but goodie.

Hate to be a negative nancy. BUT looking at the schedule... I see another 1-7 start.

Hope I'm wrong

Right now it'd be a panic move. I'm not necessarily against it, but might as well try to maximize the return. I have no desire to see two bad games turn into a bunch of panic trades or to cause an abandonment of the plan for the long term.

Once they decided to be patient, you had to know there'd be bumps in the road. They're not as bad as they looked last nigh.
- Jsaquella

Let's face it, we're not gonna maximize a return on a guy who is consistently inconsistent

The individual dmen are capable, however the unit as a whole is not. None of the remaining 6 vets can successfully match up against top lines and the overall group lacks speed and to a lesser degree skill. Without Coburn, this D corps ranks in the bottom third of the league. Thats not being negative, its being realistic.
- BiggE

33% of your defense are guys that anchored the islanders when they were considered to have the worst defense in the league.

The individual dmen are capable, however the unit as a whole is not. None of the remaining 6 vets can successfully match up against top lines and the overall group lacks speed and to a lesser degree skill. Without Coburn, this D corps ranks in the bottom third of the league. Thats not being negative, its being realistic.
- BiggE

Looking around the NHL, I think bottom third might be being kind. Regardless of whether one wants to argue how the various individuals slot, the bottom line is they lack anything close to a legit number one, and have a lot of guys best suited to being second or third pair guys.

33% of your defense are guys that anchored the islanders when they were considered to have the worst defense in the league.
- rangerdanger94

Get out of here. MacDonald and Streit are actually playing good. Its the rest of them that have been bad.

Let's face it, we're not gonna maximize a return on a guy who is consistently inconsistent
- JoeRussomanno

No, but trading him right now means giving him away.

Get out of here. MacDonald and Streit are actually playing good. Its the rest of them that have been bad.
- GOA88

Streit was awful last night. MacDonald played pretty well in both games.

Streit was awful last night. MacDonald played pretty well in both games.
- Jsaquella

Hard to blame just Streit.... the whole team is "lost in the woods"

No, but trading him right now means giving him away.
- Jsaquella

MYbe we should've brought up Rosehill after all! Ah ha!