Like who?

Every "elite QB" in the NFL has won a Super Bowl since the Pats last hoisted the Lombardi as far as I know (Peyton, Drew, Rahhdjaz as well as some bums like Rapistburger, Eli & Flacco)... Unless you're counting AFCCG appearances as "success"... Belichick/Brady really haven't accomplished sh!t since spy-gate and who really knows if they'd have won any without cheating...
- DrChristianTroy

Soon to be elite QB Russell Wilson!

Like who?

Every "elite QB" in the NFL has won a Super Bowl since the Pats last hoisted the Lombardi as far as I know (Peyton, Drew, Rahhdjaz as well as some bums like Rapistburger, Eli & Flacco)... Unless you're counting AFCCG appearances as "success"... Belichick/Brady really haven't accomplished sh!t since spy-gate and who really knows if they'd have won any without cheating...
- DrChristianTroy

Marino?

Its night and day. Gillis walked into a team in their prime ready to do things... Benning walked into a team ready to retire....


- boonerbuck

The hyperbole of your "ready to retire" comment takes away from an otherwise solid post.

Like who?

Every "elite QB" in the NFL has won a Super Bowl since the Pats last hoisted the Lombardi as far as I know (Peyton, Drew, Rahhdjaz as well as some bums like Rapistburger, Eli & Flacco)... Unless you're counting AFCCG appearances as "success"... Belichick/Brady really haven't accomplished sh!t since spy-gate and who really knows if they'd have won any without cheating...
- DrChristianTroy

Marino?
- 1970vintage

Yeah, He was great in 2012, but just fell short...

Like who?

Every "elite QB" in the NFL has won a Super Bowl since the Pats last hoisted the Lombardi as far as I know
- DrChristianTroy

I don't get how face off winning can't be taught. You'd think studying film, and timing, you could teach one of these young guys how to win face offs.

Go to the school of Manny. Use your leg to block out the other guys stick.

Manny makes it look so easy.

http://video.canadiens.nh...ocenter/console?id=633074
- moondawg

You can teach the fundamentals of body and stick positioning as well as other tangibles, but you simply can't teach reflex, and that is what face-offs ultimately come down to. I played center (bad move lol I should of stuck to wing where I was much more successful) and I found the draw the easiest part of the position. Even when guys would try and tie me or my stick up I would be able to use my skate. And that is because I've always had very good reflexes. And yes, thanks for sharing

Marino?
- 1970vintage

Belichick didn't get his QB a part in Ace Ventura Pet Detective, now did he...

Like who?

Every "elite QB" in the NFL has won a Super Bowl since the Pats last hoisted the Lombardi as far as I know (Peyton, Drew, Rahhdjaz as well as some bums like Rapistburger, Eli & Flacco)... Unless you're counting AFCCG appearances as "success"... Belichick/Brady really haven't accomplished sh!t since spy-gate and who really knows if they'd have won any without cheating...
- DrChristianTroy

I do. IMO constantly being in the final 4 is pretty impressive even in a cupcake division. The spygate/cheating stuff does bring up the grey area obviously. I don't even like the Patriots, but they've had a great run(Brady's not as good anymore, and Bill as a GM is starting to make some questionable decisions so the decline has begun).

What problems? He's fixed and he feels fine!
- HughJasscok

Well than might be a rough season for you... your top line was a Minus 2 against a weak flames team playing a back to back. I figured all the oiler fans had dug in and realized not much has changed.... another top 5 pick and no playoffs.... well I guess 2 more weeks and even the hardest pillow biters will hang up there wannabe trolling.

I do. IMO constantly being in the final 4 is pretty impressive even in a cupcake division. The spygate/cheating stuff does bring up the grey area obviously. I don't even like the Patriots, but they've had a great run(Brady's not as good anymore, and Bill as a GM is starting to make some questionable decisions so the decline has begun).
- Nucker101

Constantly being in the final 4 in the AFC is no big deal as far as I'm concerned, but I see where you're coming from. On another note, download the Baywatch Theme and/or Chariots of Fire to your celly/ipod/ipad/laptop and play it every time Tommy Brady tries to scramble for 5yds. It'll be the best 45 seconds of your day guaranteed.

Belichick didn't get his QB a part in Ace Ventura Pet Detective, now did he...
- DrChristianTroy

Not yet he hasn't, but there is always the potential for part III.

Well than might be a rough season for you... your top line was a Minus 2 against a weak flames team playing a back to back. I figured all the oiler fans had dug in and realized not much has changed.... another top 5 pick and no playoffs.... well I guess 2 more weeks and even the hardest pillow biters will hang up there wannabe trolling.



- SMP8719

Bahhahhahahha..............ummm, I got nothing!

Gillis " We have salary cap issues...err I mean we are looking out for Mannys personal well being"
- fiveandagame

Manny was being paid 2.5 mil back then and that was expensive for a third liner. he scored 7 goals last year and 7 in his final year as a Canuck.He was never the same player when he returned from injury.

Gillis made the right move . He offered him a spot with the club other than a player.

Manny was being paid 2.5 mil back then and that was expensive for a third liner. he scored 7 goals last year and 7 in his final year as a Canuck.He was never the same player when he returned from injury.

Gillis made the right move . He offered him a spot with the club other than a player.
- VANTEL

Yep. If Gillis lets him play despite medical warnings and he gets seriously injured, then we are all calling him a heartless coward

Yep. If Gillis lets him play despite medical warnings and he gets seriously injured, then we are all calling him a heartless coward
- bezz44

There was actually more than a few of us on here saying to put him on waivers or buy him out.

There was actually more than a few of us on here saying to put him on waivers or buy him out.
- VANTEL

Yea, I don't think many people saw him coming back the way that he has. Hard to count out a guy like that but it did not look good and I remember thinking that it was for the best

Yea, I don't think many people saw him coming back the way that he has. Hard to count out a guy like that but it did not look good and I remember thinking that it was for the best
- bezz44

He can still win face offs but there isn't much more that I like about his game. I would prefer Horvat at my third line centre.

He can still win face offs but there isn't much more that I like about his game. I would prefer Horvat at my third line centre.
- VANTEL

ya for sure.

And at the time he literally took a face off and would skate straight to the bench for a change. Hindsights 20/20 I guess (ugh....bad pun)

ya for sure.

And at the time he literally took a face off and would skate straight to the bench for a change. Hindsights 20/20 I guess (ugh....bad pun)
- numbear

Exactly , he would take the face off and get off ( not that way, you pervs).

Leaf fans have a habit of turning their current players into living legends , us Canuck fans turn our ex Canucks into legends.

Exactly , he would take the face off and get off ( not that way, you pervs).

Leaf fans have a habit of turning their current players into living legends , us canuck fans turn our ex Canucks into legends.
- VANTEL

But Raymond had a hat trick last night. #Legend.

But Raymond had a hat trick last night. #Legend.
- fiveandagame

Raymond is the exception, he is God

Raymond is the exception, he is God
- VANTEL

He was only a 2nd rd pick, Sbisa was a 1st.

He was only a 2nd rd pick, Sbisa was a 1st.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Sbisa will be a legend three years after he leaves this team, he still has time.

Sbisa will be a legend three years after he leaves this team, he still has time.
- VANTEL

If vantel says it, it has to be true.

Sbisa will be a legend three years after he leaves this team, he still has time.
- VANTEL

Mark Messier Legend.