Emery and Steve Mason are two below-average goalies on a team with a shaky defense. That's not a recipe for success.
(Rotoworld.com)

I just never will understand how a team can be so inconsistent for so long. It's a problem that dates back to last season under Chief. Even in their wins, they have long stretches in games with these "WTF" moments.

Coaching change solves nothing. Still have the same trash D to go with the up and down play of your forwards.

I really hope Hextall is aggressive at the trade deadline. Even if the Flyers figure things out, they are years away from the Chicago's and LA's of the league. I think 17 posteason appearances in the last 19 years with nothing to show for has to be getting tiresome. Either make some moves, or say f*ck it and suck and wait for these young Dmen to blossom and kick a** in the draft.

And for what it's worth, if Berube is giving up on Schenn after 2 games on the top line, just be done with it and make a deal to get him off the roster. Moving him up and down, Center or Wing, does nothing to benefit him. Your're just sending a message to him saying "we don't know WTF to do with you"

As I was texting my brother watching the 3rd before the Canadiens potted one - he said he'd be surprised if the Flyers got a point. Lo & behold.

" fragile" perfect description on this team. I was not comfortable with 3 goal lead last night.
- 3flyerkids

Frankly, this team just lacks overall talent. It's not about them not trying hard enough. They do try. They just aren't that good.

This team was held together with duct tape last year. Then, they lost their #1 defenseman and leader along with their top line LW for a fringe defenseman and a 3rd/4th line player.

Think about how lucky they were to experience so few injuries last season. Their 'top 6' defenseman remained healthy for almost the entire season. That poop never happens. Their best forwards also played in every game as well. Couts, G, Voracek and Simmonds didn't miss a single game last year. Read missed 7 and Hartnell only missed 4.

This team needs several things to go right just to make the playoffs.

Same feeling in game 1,
I knew the Bruins would get that second goal at the end.
- Marc D

I feel for Berube a bit. I wouldn't know who to put on the ice in a late game situation right now. No pairing or line has distinguished itself as reliable thus far.

People might laugh, but both teams should be on board with that
- AllInForFlyers

Agreed. It's really a move that benefits both team's needs.

Eberle would do really well here I think. Either on the first line or paired with Coots. He would give this team a huge boost in the skill department. And our chances of actually winning some shootouts would instantly go up with him as an option.

For EDM they get the hard nosed players they badly need. Luke can give that team 20 minutes a night and Brayden will bring the physical elements(along with some skill of his own) that their top 6 is severely lacking.

And for what it's worth, if Berube is giving up on Schenn after 2 games on the top line, just be done with it and make a deal to get him off the roster. Moving him up and down, Center or Wing, does nothing to benefit him. Your're just sending a message to him saying "we don't know WTF to do with you"

I think the Flyers need to have more than a team meeting and more than a boss man Snider lecture.

The Schenn thing is definitely starting to look bad. Remember when he was the best prospect not playing in the league, like Dopita? Flyers could be handling this kid a lot better.

Agreed. It's really a move that benefits both team's needs.

Eberle would do really well here I think. Either on the first line or paired with Coots. He would give this team a huge boost in the skill department. And our chances of actually winning some shootouts would instantly go up with him as an option.

For EDM they get the hard nosed players they badly need. Luke can give that team 20 minutes a night and Brayden will bring the physical elements(along with some skill of his own) that their top 6 is severely lacking.
- hereticpride

Luke Schenn holds very little value imo. He's played like a 6th dman for an entire calendar year now and his contract is up after next season. He might hold value to certain teams, but Edmonton would probably want someone they can build with long term.

I just never will understand how a team can be so inconsistent for so long. It's a problem that dates back to last season under Chief. Even in their wins, they have long stretches in games with these "WTF" moments.

Coaching change solves nothing. Still have the same trash D to go with the up and down play of your forwards.

I really hope Hextall is aggressive at the trade deadline. Even if the Flyers figure things out, they are years away from the Chicago's and LA's of the league. I think 17 posteason appearances in the last 19 years with nothing to show for has to be getting tiresome. Either make some moves, or say f*ck it and suck and wait for these young Dmen to blossom and kick a** in the draft.

And for what it's worth, if Berube is giving up on Schenn after 2 games on the top line, just be done with it and make a deal to get him off the roster. Moving him up and down, Center or Wing, does nothing to benefit him. Your're just sending a message to him saying "we don't know WTF to do with you"
- Pelle31Forever

i'd rather give up on berube than schenn

Agreed. It's really a move that benefits both team's needs.

Eberle would do really well here I think. Either on the first line or paired with Coots. He would give this team a huge boost in the skill department. And our chances of actually winning some shootouts would instantly go up with him as an option.

For EDM they get the hard nosed players they badly need. Luke can give that team 20 minutes a night and Brayden will bring the physical elements(along with some skill of his own) that their top 6 is severely lacking.
- hereticpride

I think that last year the Oilers were trying to get Coburn for Magnus Paajarvi according to reports. I think that they'd want more for Eberle personally. Also, we're not currently happy with Luke's play, so I am sure the Oilers would have doubts if he would succeed there..

i'd rather give up on berube than schenn
- -davies-

If the team spent half as much time trying to give Schenn proper linemates and position as they do VL, I would be more understanding of Berube's criticism.

I just don't understand why the team can't split up Jake and G. Simmonds is perfectly capable of playing on the top line with G. I think he's proven he's ready for that. Jake could be used as a player maker with Schenn or Couts and I believe it would really elevate their games.

I would even settle for Jake playing with VL on his RW.

Try Simmonds on the LW with Giroux. You have one of the hottest forwards in the league right now, why not try him on the top line. He is a much better option over anyone this team has right now...

I think that last year the Oilers were trying to get Coburn for Magnus Paajarvi according to reports. I think that they'd want more for Eberle personally. Also, we're not currently happy with Luke's play, so I am sure the Oilers would have doubts if he would succeed there..
- Hextall271

C'mon we all know any player who leaves Philly goes on to be something special. Williams, JVR, Forsberg, Sharp, Carter..... Why not assume Luke Schenn would be the same

If the team spent half as much time trying to give Schenn proper linemates and position as they do VL, I would be more understanding of Berube's criticism.

I just don't understand why the team can't split up Jake and G. Simmonds is perfectly capable of playing on the top line with G. I think he's proven he's ready for that. Jake could be used as a player maker with Schenn or Couts and I believe it would really elevate their games.

I would even settle for Jake playing with VL on his RW.
- PhillySportsGuy

Absolutely.

12/28/17
10/40/93
24/14/18
36/78/42

Luke Schenn holds very little value imo. He's played like a 6th dman for an entire calendar year now and his contract is up after next season. He might hold value to certain teams, but Edmonton would probably want someone they can build with long term.
- PhillySportsGuy

Plus no way are they trading Eberle.
He is captain material.

A nurse in Dallas diagnosed with Ebola.
Be careful when you are down there Bill.

Emery and Steve Mason are two below-average goalies on a team with a shaky defense. That's not a recipe for success.
(Rotoworld.com)
- Pixote Andolini

One part true, the other not so much

If the team spent half as much time trying to give Schenn proper linemates and position as they do VL, I would be more understanding of Berube's criticism.

I just don't understand why the team can't split up Jake and G. Simmonds is perfectly capable of playing on the top line with G. I think he's proven he's ready for that. Jake could be used as a player maker with Schenn or Couts and I believe it would really elevate their games.

I would even settle for Jake playing with VL on his RW.
- PhillySportsGuy

This is where I have been the whole time.

Use these pairs: G Simmer, Vinny Jake, Coots Read....then mix and match the third member. Its seems Umberger has been good with Coots and Read.

I would leave Raffl with G and Simmer for now. That means Schenn with Vinny and Jake.

Emery and Steve Mason are two below-average goalies on a team with a shaky defense. That's not a recipe for success.
(Rotoworld.com)
- Pixote Andolini

Sigh, another example of great analysis by press that clearly doesn't watch the games. With even last year's d corp, the tenders are good enough to make the playoffs...

B. Schenn has looked bad. Seems to have no confidence or jump.

I just hope we don't see a short sighted, fire up the troops move. I don't want Berube Fired, either. I had low expectations, and they need to stick with a patient approach.
- Jsaquella

If they fire Berube in the next ten games, I will never watch another Flyers game.

Flyers only have 2 games this week. Plenty of practice time. This is the week to work on their shortcomings. The ones that aren't physical such as lead footed defensemen.

They need to play smarter, if the players are capable of it.

I hope they don't rush Coburn back, they need to let him rest until he is healed.

Giroux leads the league in faceoffs lost.

If they fire Berube in the next ten games, I will never watch another Flyers game.
- KGBflyers10

you're that attached to berube ?

Giroux leads the league in faceoffs lost.
- Pixote Andolini

If they have a tough year its going to be comical to see people start blaming Claude.

5+ years of BS, with a huge rate of player turn-over but people are still blaming the guys on the ice. The constants are not the boys wearing the jerseys.

Giroux leads the league in faceoffs lost.
- Pixote Andolini

The Flyers lead the league in more than one category, unfortunately none of the categories they lead in are conducive to a playoff team.

Let's hope they use this week of practice to correct things.