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wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Oct 13 @ 1:53 PM ET
Noebels following Danny B and G's footsteps... off to be an Ice Bear:
http://www.eisbaeren.de/m...-zu-den-eisbaeren-berlin/

- Tomahawk


so basically Zepp for Noebels
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Oct 13 @ 1:54 PM ET
I'm the guy who has been saying all along they're a bubble team and got shredded for "pessimism" before the season started. But using an example that happened to this very team just last year is a bit much
- Jsaquella



your just a crotchety old man arent you....
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 13 @ 1:54 PM ET
so basically Zepp for Noebels
- wilsonecho91


haha, more or less.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 13 @ 1:55 PM ET
that would be the worst for this team we need better players for the future
- 2Real


I will never believe that losing is better than competing and trying to win -- hell, just look at Saturday. What happened there? They didn't compete hard enough, didn't try to win, in the third period,

What good did coughing up a three-goal lead at home do for anybody? Anybody at all?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 13 @ 1:57 PM ET
You think there's still water in that well without Hartnell and Timmonen.
- mayorofangrytown


Don't you know that Hartnell is a terrible skater who did nothing ever but take penalties and fall down? The loss of Timonen should be offset by the gain of losing Hartnell, and now we've got speedster and 2-way superstar Umberger in the lineup.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 13 @ 1:57 PM ET
this all sounds good to me
- mydoglicks



I am just trying to think logically. Maybe a team like Anahiem losses Kessler for the playoffs. He was their second line center banking on him . Could a team like that use Vinny for a playoff run?

A team needing size could use Grossmann.

Coburn could be a great 1B or second pairing guy for a team hitting the playoffs. RJ could be a solid option on a 3rd line for a cup contender.

Rinaldo could go to a team needing to make their 4th line better th his skting ad energy. I actually think the Flyers chave pieces that playoff teams could use. Just the mix isn't that great as a whole for their team.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 13 @ 1:58 PM ET
I am just trying to think logically. Maybe a team like Anahiem losses Kessler for the playoffs. He was their second line center banking on him . Could a team like that use Vinny for a playoff run?

A team needing size could use Grossmann.

Coburn could be a great 1B or second pairing guy for a team hitting the playoffs. RJ could be a solid option on a 3rd line for a cup contender.

Rinaldo could go to a team needing to make their 4th line better th his skting ad energy. I actually think the Flyers chave pieces that playoff teams could use. Just the mix isn't that great as a whole for their team.

- J35Bacher


So, if they fall out of the playoff race, you're all for embracing a full-blown rebuild?
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Oct 13 @ 1:59 PM ET
I would be totally ok with suffering a terrible season to get a crack at McDavid or Eichel. Can you imagine our future if we could have Giroux and McDavid along with Ghost/Morin/Hagg/Sanheim anchoring our blueline in 3-4 years? We could instantly be a powerhouse...you add in a few good solid veteran free agents along with Simmer, Couts/Voracek etc....WOW, makes it almost dreamy thinking about it.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 13 @ 1:59 PM ET
For the record, I hate the Philadelphia fans who are only happy (and only show up on boards like this) when they have something to complain about.
- jmatchett383



Jeez, you must have a lot of hate in your heart when you come in here....
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:00 PM ET
I would be totally ok with suffering a terrible season to get a crack at McDavid or Eichel. Can you imagine our future if we could have Giroux and McDavid along with Ghost/Morin/Hagg/Sanheim anchoring our blueline in 3-4 years? We could instantly be a powerhouse...you add in a few good solid veteran free agents along with Simmer, Couts/Voracek etc....WOW, makes it almost dreamy thinking about it.
- Buzzo


If they'd be a powerhouse with McDavid, does that make them a contender in 3-4 years with the current guys we have?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:00 PM ET
Jeez, you must have a lot of hate in your heart when you come in here....

- MBFlyerfan


No, it's usually the same 4-5 guys who show up on certain days, and disappear when the teams is doing well.

Does your dog lick? How real are you?
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 13 @ 2:01 PM ET
Noebels following Danny B and G's footsteps... off to be an Ice Bear:
http://www.eisbaeren.de/m...-zu-den-eisbaeren-berlin/

- Tomahawk


i thought i read somewhere his contract was recinded and he is no longer our property?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 13 @ 2:01 PM ET
So, if they fall out of the playoff race, you're all for embracing a full-blown rebuild?
- jmatchett383



In a way. I think they could shed pieces but still bring in youngsters and get this team going. I think Morin, depending on this recovery, could be ready next year. So could Gostisbiere and haag and Alt. Maybe even Sanheim. I think Leirer and Laughton and maybe Abul-Kubel could be ready. I think it could be a 2 or 3 year process but the purge could start.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Oct 13 @ 2:01 PM ET
I would be totally ok with suffering a terrible season to get a crack at McDavid or Eichel. Can you imagine our future if we could have Giroux and McDavid along with Ghost/Morin/Hagg/Sanheim anchoring our blueline in 3-4 years? We could instantly be a powerhouse...you add in a few good solid veteran free agents along with Simmer, Couts/Voracek etc....WOW, makes it almost dreamy thinking about it.
- Buzzo



one thing to think about is what a season like that would do to Mason long-term, if anything.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 13 @ 2:01 PM ET
No, it's usually the same 4-5 guys who show up on certain days, and disappear when the teams is doing well.

Does your dog lick? How real are you?

- jmatchett383



And a few others.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 13 @ 2:02 PM ET
I'm the guy who has been saying all along they're a bubble team and got shredded for "pessimism" before the season started. But using an example that happened to this very team just last year is a bit much
- Jsaquella


not to mention the teams we caught and beat out seemed to have improved there teams
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:02 PM ET
I would be totally ok with suffering a terrible season to get a crack at McDavid or Eichel. Can you imagine our future if we could have Giroux and McDavid along with Ghost/Morin/Hagg/Sanheim anchoring our blueline in 3-4 years? We could instantly be a powerhouse...you add in a few good solid veteran free agents along with Simmer, Couts/Voracek etc....WOW, makes it almost dreamy thinking about it.
- Buzzo


As much as it pains me to say it, I actually want them to be so bad that they'll get the #1 pick this year. I don't think it will happen but getting McDavid or Eichel > getting bounced in the 1st round of the playoffs.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 13 @ 2:03 PM ET
one thing to think about is what a season like that would do to Mason long-term, if anything.
- wilsonecho91



By the time this team is ready i think we will be talking about Stolarz pushing for the starter job or already won it.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 13 @ 2:03 PM ET
I am just trying to think logically. Maybe a team like Anahiem losses Kessler for the playoffs. He was their second line center banking on him . Could a team like that use Vinny for a playoff run?

A team needing size could use Grossmann.

Coburn could be a great 1B or second pairing guy for a team hitting the playoffs. RJ could be a solid option on a 3rd line for a cup contender.

Rinaldo could go to a team needing to make their 4th line better th his skting ad energy. I actually think the Flyers chave pieces that playoff teams could use. Just the mix isn't that great as a whole for their team.

- J35Bacher


i agree, i wasnt being sarcastic
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Oct 13 @ 2:03 PM ET
No, it's usually the same 4-5 guys who show up on certain days, and disappear when the teams is doing well.

Does your dog lick? How real are you?

- jmatchett383


You can tell what the score of any given game is by their presence, too.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:04 PM ET
In a way. I think they could shed pieces but still bring in youngsters and get this team going. I think Morin, depending on this recovery, could be ready next year. So could Gostisbiere and haag and Alt. Maybe even Sanheim. I think Leirer and Laughton and maybe Abul-Kubel could be ready. I think it could be a 2 or 3 year process but the purge could start.
- J35Bacher


Even if those guys are "ready" (and I think you're being optimistic that they'll all be ready) next year, they're not ready to be impact players any time soon. So you're basically going to be bad for 2-3 years before you will start the turnaround. They'll never allow that, as they'd lose too many STHs.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 13 @ 2:04 PM ET
By the time this team is ready i think we will be talking about Stolarz pushing for the starter job or already won it.
- J35Bacher


That's a lot of faith for a player who's yet to play a meaningful professional hockey game.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Oct 13 @ 2:05 PM ET
If they'd be a powerhouse with McDavid, does that make them a contender in 3-4 years with the current guys we have?
- jmatchett383



IMO no, I do believe we have chemistry issues, Schenn is just not working out anywhere you put him, Vinny also will hopefully be gone by then, Couts/Laughton/Akeson should all be better I would hope. They need a sniping winger to compliment one of the top 2 lines , maybe thru Free Agency or trade somehow.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 13 @ 2:06 PM ET
one thing to think about is what a season like that would do to Mason long-term, if anything.
- wilsonecho91


not necessarily anything. as long as he plays well, even if they lose, he'll be fine.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 13 @ 2:07 PM ET
No, it's usually the same 4-5 guys who show up on certain days, and disappear when the teams is doing well.

Does your dog lick? How real are you?

- jmatchett383


the flyers are in great shape, cant wait to see the next game, if they make a few little tweaks they will make a real run no problem....this is a public board and i can come and go as i please...i have been on here in a positve way more then not and in no way am i posting here to please you sir
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