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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 13 @ 7:44 PM ET
I haven't been around all day. I'm kind of glad.
- PhillySportsGuy


Me either. We've been in and out. I didn't back read much either.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 13 @ 7:44 PM ET
carolina and buffalo are the only 2 teams he would be in the top 3. so now show me where i am wrong.
- rinaldo


I couldn't show you where you are wrong. Only offer an opinion.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 13 @ 7:45 PM ET
I'm open to all ideas, just as long as it improves the club in some way.
- ob18


If they can't turn it around, I'd be looking at selling heavy at the TDL.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 13 @ 7:46 PM ET
I don't think Schenn is necessarily a loss if he's moved, it depends on the return.

Moves like Ladd or Eriksson, would probably qualify as that, because they'd ultimately be short term fixes. But let's say they could swing a deal that was built around Schenn for a kid like Ryan Murphy. In a case like that you're moving youth for youth to shore up a weak spot from a strength.

Of course, I can't see the Canes trading Murphy for Schenn, even with their depleted center corps

- Jsaquella


I would rather move Schenn for a prospect and/or pick than a veteran NHLer. I don't think the Flyers should make any move unless it helps the future of the team. Ladd and Eriksson are gone in 2 years. Schenn is a rfa in 2 years.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 13 @ 7:47 PM ET
I would rather move Schenn for a prospect and/or pick than a veteran NHLer. I don't think the Flyers should make any move unless it helps the future of the team. Ladd and Eriksson are gone in 2 years. Schenn is a rfa in 2 years.
- PhillySportsGuy




rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Oct 13 @ 7:47 PM ET
I couldn't show you where you are wrong. Only offer an opinion.
- MJL

then offer your opinion, what other teams would he be in the top 3 besides those 2 i mentioned.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 13 @ 7:49 PM ET
I would rather move Schenn for a prospect and/or pick than a veteran NHLer. I don't think the Flyers should make any move unless it helps the future of the team. Ladd and Eriksson are gone in 2 years. Schenn is a rfa in 2 years.
- PhillySportsGuy


As would I. I'm not totally against moving him for a slightly older winger, but 6 or 7 years of age difference, combined with a significantly bigger cap hit and pending UFA is not ideal.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 13 @ 7:49 PM ET
I would rather move Schenn for a prospect and/or pick than a veteran NHLer. I don't think the Flyers should make any move unless it helps the future of the team. Ladd and Eriksson are gone in 2 years. Schenn is a rfa in 2 years.
- PhillySportsGuy

Flyers would lock up Ladd when they're trimming down all the excess cap space from inserting guys with ELC's on D.

The other option is we trade the Schenn's for Mike Richards and a slew of LA's draft picks.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 13 @ 7:50 PM ET


I might have had more people in my house this weekend
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Oct 13 @ 7:52 PM ET


I might have had more people in my house this weekend

- Jsaquella

wow that is sad. what was the attendance i wonder. keep them there they will thrive at some point!!!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 13 @ 7:52 PM ET
As would I. I'm not totally against moving him for a slightly older winger, but 6 or 7 years of age difference, combined with a significantly bigger cap hit and pending UFA is not ideal.
- Jsaquella


I just feel Schenn has never gotten the right opportunity here. Trading him for another under achieving prospect would be risky imo. I feel it will go a long way if Schenn is given the opportunity to play center and given a RW like Voracek. I feel like he's spent more than half of his career with Briere or VL and the other half moving all around the lineup from center to wing.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 13 @ 7:54 PM ET
then offer your opinion, what other teams would he be in the top 3 besides those 2 i mentioned.
- rinaldo


In the East, the only teams that MacDonald would not be equal to or better as the #3 defenseman, are Pittsburgh, Washington, and the Rangers.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 13 @ 7:55 PM ET
I just feel Schenn has never gotten the right opportunity here. Trading him for another under achieving prospect would be risky imo. I feel it will go a long way if Schenn is given the opportunity to play center and given a RW like Voracek. I feel like he's spent more than half of his career with Briere or VL and the other half moving all around the lineup from center to wing.
- PhillySportsGuy


I'd be OK with that, but you have Lecavalier.

They can't trade him. They can't play him on wing. They have limited options.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 13 @ 7:55 PM ET
Flyers would lock up Ladd when they're trimming down all the excess cap space from inserting guys with ELC's on D.

The other option is we trade the Schenn's for Mike Richards and a slew of LA's draft picks.

- hereticpride


Ladd will be 30 when he receives that extension. He'll likely want at least 5 years and a lot of money. Is that something this team should be doing? He's a good player, but he's not a great player.

LA wouldn't do that. They have put a premium on draft picks.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 13 @ 7:57 PM ET
I just feel Schenn has never gotten the right opportunity here. Trading him for another under achieving prospect would be risky imo. I feel it will go a long way if Schenn is given the opportunity to play center and given a RW like Voracek. I feel like he's spent more than half of his career with Briere or VL and the other half moving all around the lineup from center to wing.
- PhillySportsGuy


I don't think there is any doubt that moving him around has not been good for him. He's either a center or a winger. And I'm glad that Berube decided to move Bellmare up and leave Schenn at LW. That's where he belongs in my opinion.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 13 @ 7:57 PM ET
I'd be OK with that, but you have Lecavalier.

They can't trade him. They can't play him on wing. They have limited options.

- Jsaquella


I know. Now that he's out for a couple weeks, they have the opportunity for Schenn. Why not put Simmonds on G's line and Jake on Schenn's line?
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Oct 13 @ 7:57 PM ET
In the East, the only teams that MacDonald would not be equal to or better as the #3 defenseman, are Pittsburgh, Washington, and the Rangers.
- MJL

lol. wow your opinion is well your opinion no matter off base it is
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Oct 13 @ 8:00 PM ET
All this trading Giroux stuff is retarded. You don't trade a guy of his caliber. Ever. The Pens were horrible defensively the last few years. Is that Crosby's fault too? Maybe the Pens should trade him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 13 @ 8:00 PM ET
lol. wow your opinion is well your opinion no matter off base it is
- rinaldo


Feel free to try and show me how my opinion is off base. Instead of just making a blanket statement, I pointed out how I thought your opinion on MacDonald's contract was off base.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 13 @ 8:00 PM ET
I know. Now that he's out for a couple weeks, they have the opportunity for Schenn. Why not put Simmonds on G's line and Jake on Schenn's line?
- PhillySportsGuy


Berube doesn't want to juggle him around. He's going to be a LW here.

He' had some success at wing in the past, but he's been unimpressive there thus far. It's like he's in a fog. He's got to simplfy his game
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 13 @ 8:01 PM ET
All this trading Giroux stuff is retarded. You don't trade a guy of his caliber. Ever. The Pens were horrible defensively the last few years. Is that Crosby's fault too? Maybe the Pens should trade him.
- Flyers1218


First of all I agree. That's a no brainer. But I haven't read much about trading giroux.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 13 @ 8:01 PM ET
Berube doesn't want to juggle him around. He's going to be a LW here.

He' had some success at wing in the past, but he's been unimpressive there thus far. It's like he's in a fog. He's got to simplfy his game

- Jsaquella


He's best role is center, he looks lost most of the time at LW
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 13 @ 8:02 PM ET
He's best role is center, he looks lost most of the time at LW
- ob18


He's had equal amount of time where he has also looked lost at Center. And if you look at his skill set, it screams wing.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Oct 13 @ 8:03 PM ET
They are 0-2-1. Could be 3-0-0. Teams have bad starts. It's not how you start, but how you finish. In the words of that tool Aaron Rodgers, R-E-L-A-X.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 13 @ 8:03 PM ET
He's had equal amount of time where he has also looked lost at Center. And if you look at his skill set, it screams wing.
- MJL


You have your opinion I have mine, leave it at that and walk away
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