First of all I agree. That's a no brainer. But I haven't read much about trading giroux.
- MJL

Sorry it was in a few posts earlier today. Forgot to hit update.

He's best role is center, he looks lost most of the time at LW
- ob18

I agree, but I'm not the coach.

Feel free to try and show me how my opinion is off base. Instead of just making a blanket statement, I pointed out how I thought your opinion on MacDonald's contract was off base.
- MJL

boston is 1 example. so please give your opinion how andy mac plays in their top 3.

I agree, but I'm not the coach.
- Jsaquella

I am just a fan who hasn't spent a dime yet on any Flyers item this year (yet)

He's best role is center, he looks lost most of the time at LW
- ob18

I agree. He just looks natural at center. He seems to not know where to be as a winger. The times I feel he's performed best are always at center. Like when paired with Jake in 2012-13 and with Hartnell and Simmonds last year.

I am just a fan who hasn't spent a dime yet on any Flyers item this year (yet)
- ob18

hockeystreams

He's best role is center, he looks lost most of the time at LW
- ob18

Buy him a map.

hockeystreams
- Crimsoninja

I consider that for junior hockey viewing not to watch the Flyers

I am just a fan who hasn't spent a dime yet on any Flyers item this year (yet)
- ob18

I'll probably make it to a game or buy a sweatshirt or hat. I didn't spend any money on them during the lockout year and may have dropped $60 during last season. This year I got GCL, but that's more for watching games when we travel than anything else.

Buy him a map.
- 77rams

He might get lost

Just ride it out. Try to earn the playoffs, but know they've got some real talent in the future on the back end. They have their goaltender just coming into his prime. And they have young players up front that they have invested in and some are already blossoming (Simmer, Giroux, Voracek). Why not just accept what they are and know that in the next few seasons, with additional shrewd moves, they will be a contender? Everyone wanted them to go this route and are now complaining that they are meh team. Make up your minds.

Man, looking around the league. LW has got to have the weakest depth of any position. Unless Hexy pulls off some highway robbery I dont think acquiring a quality top 6 LW is going to be pretty.

I'll probably make it to a game or buy a sweatshirt or hat. I didn't spend any money on them during the lockout year and may have dropped $60 during last season. This year I got GCL, but that's more for watching games when we travel than anything else.
- Jsaquella

I'll probably make it to a game or 2

I'll probably make it to a game or 2
- ob18

We might go in January, outside of that, unsure.

boston is 1 example. so please give your opinion how andy mac plays in their top 3.
- rinaldo

Now that Boychuk is gone, MacDonald is comparable as a player to everyone of their other defenseman. Krug is a better offensive defenseman, and PP point man, but he's not better then MacDonald all around. He is also a comparable player to Seidenberg. And Hamilton may be better in the long run, but not at this point.

You have to look at the strong team structure that a team like Boston plays with. That goes a long way to making life easier on a defenseman.

Man, looking around the league. LW has got to have the weakest depth of any position. Unless Hexy pulls off some highway robbery I dont think acquiring a quality top 6 LW is going to be pretty.
- hereticpride

Yeah. I don't remember there being so few LWs compared to other positions. It's strange. Makes the JVR trade harder to take

Now that Boychuk is gone, MacDonald is comparable as a player to everyone of their other defenseman. Krug is a better offensive defenseman, and PP point man, but he's not better then MacDonald all around. He is also a comparable player to Seidenberg. And Hamilton may be better in the long run, but not at this point.

You have to look at the strong team structure that a team like Boston plays with. That goes a long way to making life easier on a defenseman.
- MJL

I agree. He just looks natural at center. He seems to not know where to be as a winger. The times I feel he's performed best are always at center. Like when paired with Jake in 2012-13 and with Hartnell and Simmonds last year.
- PhillySportsGuy

His problem right now is not knowing where to be. But not working hard enough to get to where he needs to be.

Just ride it out. Try to earn the playoffs, but know they've got some real talent in the future on the back end. They have their goaltender just coming into his prime. And they have young players up front that they have invested in and some are already blossoming (Simmer, Giroux, Voracek). Why not just accept what they are and know that in the next few seasons, with additional shrewd moves, they will be a contender? Everyone wanted them to go this route and are now complaining that they are meh team. Make up your minds.
- Flyers1218

Amen!

Now that Boychuk is gone, MacDonald is comparable as a player to everyone of their other defenseman. Krug is a better offensive defenseman, and PP point man, but he's not better then MacDonald all around. He is also a comparable player to Seidenberg. And Hamilton may be better in the long run, but not at this point.

You have to look at the strong team structure that a team like Boston plays with. That goes a long way to making life easier on a defenseman.
- MJL

he doesnt play in their top 3 and i bet your the only one who thinks so. i wold bet there isnt one gm who would take mac over seidenberg. hamilton is better at this point,.

what about columbus and nj.

- PhillySportsGuy

he doesnt play in their top 3 and i bet your the only one who thinks so. i wold bet there isnt one gm who would take mac over seidenberg. hamilton is better at this point,.

what about columbus and nj.
- rinaldo

Nothing concrete offered here. And yes to Columbus and NJ.

Seidenberg has been injury prone the last few years, and is in decline. Hamilton is very talented, but still very young. And he is not better then MacDonald at this point in his career.

Yeah. I don't remember there being so few LWs compared to other positions. It's strange. Makes the JVR trade harder to take
- PhillySportsGuy

With some juggling we might be able to make another RW work. We just really need to get away from thinking every center can transition to the wing.

I still think the Schenn's for Eberle makes a lot of sense both ways.

Simmonds G Jake
Read Coots Eberle
Umberger Vinny Raffl
Akeson Bellemare Rinaldo

You transition Simmonds to LW. I dont know how big of a deal that would be for him as he just parks it in front of the net anyway.

Nothing concrete offered here. And yes to Columbus and NJ.

Seidenberg has been injury prone the last few years, and is in decline. Hamilton is very talented, but still very young. And he is not better then MacDonald at this point in his career.
- MJL

yeah noting concrete.

no he hasnt been injury prone the last few years. just last year. i dont care if he is in decline he is better today and tomorrow. i dont care that hamilton is young he is better today as well.

so who is he beating on nj and columbus to play in their top 3?

how about the isles? who does he bump out there?

Yeah. I don't remember there being so few LWs compared to other positions. It's strange. Makes the JVR trade harder to take
- PhillySportsGuy

Move Simmer to 1LW...