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Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Oct 14 @ 11:28 PM ET
Okay guys enough name calling it's like a bunch of kids in here today.
- Yeti1181


It's not even me.. that's the ironic thing.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Oct 14 @ 11:29 PM ET
Well Fasth has a groin injury
- Oilers42


probably from standing on his d*ck the last 70 minutes

play your best Dmen the most!!
CrustyRooster
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 05.22.2013

Oct 14 @ 11:29 PM ET
not after I adjust it for hunt
- DDM-Coga


Top pairing? Put Johnson on waivers?
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Oct 14 @ 11:29 PM ET
This comment section is the only thing more catastrophic in Oiler world than that 1st period.

And all those times the Oilers picked first, they could have moved down to add stuff they needed. Can you imagine if they had swapped picks with another team that wanted Yakupov, and could have drafted Ryan Murray, or Hampus Lindholm, or Olli Maatta, or Cody Ceci, or Jacob Trouba, or Griffin Reinhart, or Morgan Rielly? Any one of Columbus or Anaheim or Pittsburgh or Ottawa or Winnipeg or the Islanders or the Leafs would have traded picks with Edmonton that year AND given them something else in return. Something BIG probably.

But Edmonton goes and picks Yakupov. They needed defensemen, like a single actual blue chip defensemen, and in a draft with at least 7 of them, they picked another forward instead of moving down.

That whole situation is indicative of the two biggest issues with the Oilers:

1) Their scouting staff cannot recognize talent.
2) Their development staff cannot get the most out of the prospects they do have.

I can't decide if Eakins sucks, or if he's discovering the same thing that Krueger and Renney and Quinn discovered, which is that it is not possible to polish a turd.

- the_terror

Conjecture. There is DEFINITELY no guarantee that they could've gotten anything more than a minor additive pieces unless they were dropping down way further. Also, if we're talking hindsight, the only player they definitely should've picked over Yak was Trouba who wasn't even close to in conversation for 1st overall.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Oct 14 @ 11:30 PM ET
Wow the Islanders look awesome!!!
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Oct 14 @ 11:30 PM ET
This comment section is the only thing more catastrophic in Oiler world than that 1st period.

And all those times the Oilers picked first, they could have moved down to add stuff they needed. Can you imagine if they had swapped picks with another team that wanted Yakupov, and could have drafted Ryan Murray, or Hampus Lindholm, or Olli Maatta, or Cody Ceci, or Jacob Trouba, or Griffin Reinhart, or Morgan Rielly? Any one of Columbus or Anaheim or Pittsburgh or Ottawa or Winnipeg or the Islanders or the Leafs would have traded picks with Edmonton that year AND given them something else in return. Something BIG probably.

But Edmonton goes and picks Yakupov. They needed defensemen, like a single actual blue chip defensemen, and in a draft with at least 7 of them, they picked another forward instead of moving down.

That whole situation is indicative of the two biggest issues with the Oilers:

1) Their scouting staff cannot recognize talent.
2) Their development staff cannot get the most out of the prospects they do have.

I can't decide if Eakins sucks, or if he's discovering the same thing that Krueger and Renney and Quinn discovered, which is that it is not possible to polish a turd.

- the_terror


What trades were offered exactly to Steve Tambellini? You seem to have the inside scoop, so please share. It was my understanding that it was a pretty cold market at the draft in 2012.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Oct 14 @ 11:30 PM ET
This comment section is the only thing more catastrophic in Oiler world than that 1st period.

And all those times the Oilers picked first, they could have moved down to add stuff they needed. Can you imagine if they had swapped picks with another team that wanted Yakupov, and could have drafted Ryan Murray, or Hampus Lindholm, or Olli Maatta, or Cody Ceci, or Jacob Trouba, or Griffin Reinhart, or Morgan Rielly? Any one of Columbus or Anaheim or Pittsburgh or Ottawa or Winnipeg or the Islanders or the Leafs would have traded picks with Edmonton that year AND given them something else in return. Something BIG probably.

But Edmonton goes and picks Yakupov. They needed defensemen, like a single actual blue chip defensemen, and in a draft with at least 7 of them, they picked another forward instead of moving down.

That whole situation is indicative of the two biggest issues with the Oilers:

1) Their scouting staff cannot recognize talent.
2) Their development staff cannot get the most out of the prospects they do have.

I can't decide if Eakins sucks, or if he's discovering the same thing that Krueger and Renney and Quinn discovered, which is that it is not possible to polish a turd.

- the_terror


Yep. A 21 year old defensman is the answe everyone!
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Oct 14 @ 11:30 PM ET
I agree. Also, you don't fire a coach 3 games into the season.

Still, the decisions he's making are real head scratchers. If the quality of the roster and coaching are both working against their chances, you might need to make some decisions there

- TheNugeIsHuge


I have no idea what is going on but IF the rumors are true it wont matter about Petry because he might not want to play for us anymore (just a rumor but wouldnt be shocked)
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Oct 14 @ 11:30 PM ET
Top pairing? Put Johnson on waivers?
- CrustyRooster


readquire Smid with him
CrustyRooster
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 05.22.2013

Oct 14 @ 11:31 PM ET
What trades were offered exactly to Steve Tambellini? You seem to have the inside scoop, so please share. It was my understanding that it was a pretty cold market at the draft in 2012.
- Jeropotato


Ryan jones and a 3rd for Ben Bishop
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 14 @ 11:31 PM ET
Pat Quinn? Renny? those names ring a bell? its ok ill wait
- RatedR80

Renny was fine the GM made the Call,MacT took a bigger gamble with Eakins 0 nhl experience.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Oct 14 @ 11:32 PM ET
I have no idea what is going on but IF the rumors are true it wont matter about Petry because he might not want to play for us anymore (just a rumor but wouldnt be shocked)
- RatedR80


whipper posted that but he didn't source it when I asked him where he got it from. Does anyone know where it was heard? He said Friedman but all I saw was that Petry is as good as gone in the next 1-2 months
the_terror
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 07.20.2009

Oct 14 @ 11:32 PM ET
What trades were offered exactly to Steve Tambellini? You seem to have the inside scoop, so please share. It was my understanding that it was a pretty cold market at the draft in 2012.
- Jeropotato


I don't know if there were trades offered. Why wasn't Tambellini shopping the pick around? I think that's kind of what I was driving after.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Oct 14 @ 11:32 PM ET
Conjecture. There is DEFINITELY no guarantee that they could've gotten anything more than a minor additive pieces unless they were dropping down way further. Also, if we're talking hindsight, the only player they definitely should've picked over Yak was Trouba who wasn't even close to in conversation for 1st overall.
- MaximumBone


You mean injury prone Murray or Hampus (guy playing on a good duck team) wasn't what we needed? Damn.

Let's blame the whole thing in the 21 year old Russian kid who has been our best forward so far and has vastly improved his d game and plays with tenacity.
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Oct 14 @ 11:32 PM ET
I was convinced I'd give Eakins till the 20 game mark before calling for his firing, but with his recent roster decisions, he has until game 10 until I stop waiting for results.
- MaximumBone


I was giving it ten games myself because you can at least get a hint of what is going to happen
CrustyRooster
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 05.22.2013

Oct 14 @ 11:33 PM ET
readquire Smid with him
- DDM-Coga


Gotta have that grit and shot locking. Smart thinking.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Oct 14 @ 11:33 PM ET
what's crazy is that EDM's actually a positive corsi team tonight with Hunt off the ice! but he scored a PP goal against VAN so >Petry, Marincin
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 14 @ 11:33 PM ET
This comment section is the only thing more catastrophic in Oiler world than that 1st period.

And all those times the Oilers picked first, they could have moved down to add stuff they needed. Can you imagine if they had swapped picks with another team that wanted Yakupov, and could have drafted Ryan Murray, or Hampus Lindholm, or Olli Maatta, or Cody Ceci, or Jacob Trouba, or Griffin Reinhart, or Morgan Rielly? Any one of Columbus or Anaheim or Pittsburgh or Ottawa or Winnipeg or the Islanders or the Leafs would have traded picks with Edmonton that year AND given them something else in return. Something BIG probably.

But Edmonton goes and picks Yakupov. They needed defensemen, like a single actual blue chip defensemen, and in a draft with at least 7 of them, they picked another forward instead of moving down.

That whole situation is indicative of the two biggest issues with the Oilers:

1) Their scouting staff cannot recognize talent.
2) Their development staff cannot get the most out of the prospects they do have.

I can't decide if Eakins sucks, or if he's discovering the same thing that Krueger and Renney and Quinn discovered, which is that it is not possible to polish a turd.

- the_terror


well lets be clear.
how much of a difference would've any of those guys made for us thus far?
murray was out his entire rookie year. and was eased in last year. while yaks led rooks in goals and points.
reilly?
lindholm on a dominant duck team?
reinhart hasn't even played for eff sakes


don't we have nurse? klefbom? I dunno, its tough to say, and I always wanted murray instead but I think this is the easy thing to say at present.
id love to have trouba or maata. but its the old hindsight argument

totally agreed on the bold tho. hes made some alarming decisions. but fukin hell. this roster has been a joke
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Oct 14 @ 11:33 PM ET
This comment section is the only thing more catastrophic in Oiler world than that 1st period.

And all those times the Oilers picked first, they could have moved down to add stuff they needed. Can you imagine if they had swapped picks with another team that wanted Yakupov, and could have drafted Ryan Murray, or Hampus Lindholm, or Olli Maatta, or Cody Ceci, or Jacob Trouba, or Griffin Reinhart, or Morgan Rielly? Any one of Columbus or Anaheim or Pittsburgh or Ottawa or Winnipeg or the Islanders or the Leafs would have traded picks with Edmonton that year AND given them something else in return. Something BIG probably.

But Edmonton goes and picks Yakupov. They needed defensemen, like a single actual blue chip defensemen, and in a draft with at least 7 of them, they picked another forward instead of moving down.

That whole situation is indicative of the two biggest issues with the Oilers:

1) Their scouting staff cannot recognize talent.
2) Their development staff cannot get the most out of the prospects they do have.

I can't decide if Eakins sucks, or if he's discovering the same thing that Krueger and Renney and Quinn discovered, which is that it is not possible to polish a turd.

- the_terror

Keep your uneducated opinions the (frank) out of here. Our scouts wanted Murray. Katz made the decision to draft Yakupov. You know nothing. Beat it!
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Oct 14 @ 11:34 PM ET
I was giving it ten games myself because you can at least get a hint of what is going to happen
- RatedR80


Honestly man, appreciate that you cared enough to come in here but we see the same sh1t everyday. Youre not familiar with the oilers and you're post was very narrow sighted.

Edit: SORRY quoted wrong guy. Meant terror
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Oct 14 @ 11:34 PM ET
I have the greatest idea for a blog ever.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Oct 14 @ 11:34 PM ET
C'mon man....nobody is saying Eakins is good at all, but just because they don't share your blind , unrelenting hatred doesn't make them Idiots.

You need to chill out a bit, your taking everything a bit far with the name calling and what not. You sure get bent out of shape when people do the same to you.

- Jeropotato



Go back and read who started with the name calling. (frank) this kid, he's an idiot
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Oct 14 @ 11:34 PM ET
I think it was someone else's wife. Perhaps abware
- Yeti1181


hmm right. thanks
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Oct 14 @ 11:35 PM ET
whipper posted that but he didn't source it when I asked him where he got it from. Does anyone know where it was heard? He said Friedman but all I saw was that Petry is as good as gone in the next 1-2 months
- TheNugeIsHuge


Well his wife did have a fit on twitter about it so who knows
wizardofi
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Joined: 04.17.2011

Oct 14 @ 11:35 PM ET
c'mon you guys. Look at the bright side. Calgary won tonight
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