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jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Oct 15 @ 7:08 AM ET
The problem is they are not bad enough. Getting outscored 12-6 at even strength means this team still stinks at 5 on 5 and thus has zero shot of winning a cup. If the absolute pinnacle of this team is a 1st round playoff lost, I would rather them finish last in the league. A team can get trapped in mediocrity for a decade if they aren't careful.
- psuhockey


I dont think its hextals plan to be in mediocrity. I see he wants to let this team as is and see where it goes as some contracts expire or can be moved. I give it a 2-3 year plan and this team will be a nightmare for teams to play against especially with up and coming d. I want a lottery pick for just one year, and this year is the year. Deep draft with generational players in it. The question comes though when the flyers get that 1st pick.. do they take mcdavid or Eichel
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 15 @ 7:22 AM ET
Are we really talking draft in October?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 15 @ 7:24 AM ET
Are we really talking draft in October?
- JoeRussomanno



Looks like it. This start hasn't exactly had me doing cartwheels. Mason played solid last night, so maybe the team gets on the road and shows me something. I remember last year we had a fantastic west coast trip and it really set the stage for us making the playoffs. At least this is the hope I am clinging too.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 15 @ 7:24 AM ET
looked like a pretty good effort, some guys seem to be waking up...

I find it disturbing and ignorant for berube to make jokes about the shoot outs, I understand he thinks its a gimmick and all but its part of the game much like the extra point in football and should be practiced seriously and taken serious

if chip Kelly was coach flyers I can guarantee that the shoot out would be figured out
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Oct 15 @ 7:25 AM ET
Looks like it. This start hasn't exactly had me doing cartwheels. Mason played solid last night, so maybe the team gets on the road and shows me something. I remember last year we had a fantastic west coast trip and it really set the stage for us making the playoffs. At least this is the hope I am clinging too.
- Hextall271


Mcdavid says hi
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Oct 15 @ 7:25 AM ET
Looks like it. This start hasn't exactly had me doing cartwheels. Mason played solid last night, so maybe the team gets on the road and shows me something. I remember last year we had a fantastic west coast trip and it really set the stage for us making the playoffs. At least this is the hope I am clinging too.
- Hextall271


So does Eichel.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Oct 15 @ 7:27 AM ET
So does Noah Hanifan.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Oct 15 @ 7:27 AM ET
So does Noah Hanifan.
- Doc_Sarcasm


Oh Oh I like him too!!!!!!!!!
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 15 @ 7:29 AM ET
I dont think its hextals plan to be in mediocrity. I see he wants to let this team as is and see where it goes as some contracts expire or can be moved. I give it a 2-3 year plan and this team will be a nightmare for teams to play against especially with up and coming d. I want a lottery pick for just one year, and this year is the year. Deep draft with generational players in it. The question comes though when the flyers get that 1st pick.. do they take mcdavid or Eichel
- jmdodgeser4

This team has nothing on CAR or BUF. Those teams are a huge jump in epic fail. Last night could have easily been a huge loss but they showed resilience. This team showed character and this is BAD for all fail nation folks. I see a team that drafts 4-12 depending on injuries. No trades are coming, or at least I hope not- stay the course.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Oct 15 @ 7:32 AM ET
This team has nothing on CAR or BUF. Those teams are a huge jump in epic fail. Last night could have easily been a huge loss but they showed resilience. This team showed character and this is BAD for all fail nation folks. I see a team that drafts 4-12 depending on injuries. No trades are coming, or at least I hope not- stay the course.
- coffee junkie


OK. Sooooo...no Mcdavid? You sir just ruined my day
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 15 @ 7:34 AM ET
Looks like it. This start hasn't exactly had me doing cartwheels. Mason played solid last night, so maybe the team gets on the road and shows me something. I remember last year we had a fantastic west coast trip and it really set the stage for us making the playoffs. At least this is the hope I am clinging too.
- Hextall271

Dump the schenn's and read, get another winger and Dman, promote some phantoms ala ghost and Laughton, drive on.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Oct 15 @ 7:35 AM ET
This team has nothing on CAR or BUF. Those teams are a huge jump in epic fail. Last night could have easily been a huge loss but they showed resilience. This team showed character and this is BAD for all fail nation folks. I see a team that drafts 4-12 depending on injuries. No trades are coming, or at least I hope not- stay the course.
- coffee junkie


But where would the league want a Mcdavid or Eichel to play? Not buf or carolina. Big market like....say.... Philly...look at crosby.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 15 @ 7:35 AM ET
OK. Sooooo...no Mcdavid? You sir just ruined my day
- jmdodgeser4

Did you see the BUF/ANA game two days ago. BUF looked like they were on the PK the whole game. It was embarrassing to watch and I don't even like their team! Those fans deserve a superstar for putting up with it. Sorry to harsh your mellow bro.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 15 @ 7:35 AM ET
OK. Sooooo...no Mcdavid? You sir just ruined my day
- jmdodgeser4

With a 99% chance we'd still lose that lottery
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 15 @ 7:39 AM ET
Dump the schenn's and read, get another winger and Dman, promote some phantoms ala ghost and Laughton, drive on.
- JoeRussomanno

Last thing I would do, sell low on players with potential. Trade the vets long before these guys: RJ, Streit, Grossman and Vinny (I know they have no value so you wait to the TDL and pray).
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Oct 15 @ 7:39 AM ET
With a 99% chance we'd still lose that lottery
- JoeRussomanno


Is it decided by a shootout?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 15 @ 7:41 AM ET
If they were truly gambling on Schenn, it'd be nice if they gave him more than 4 periods.
- Jsaquella


Brayden Schenn had a very strong game last night.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 15 @ 7:41 AM ET
Is it decided by a shootout?
- aflyerpower8

jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Oct 15 @ 7:42 AM ET
Is it decided by a shootout?
- aflyerpower8


HA. I can see the league doing that if we fisnished with the worst record.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 15 @ 7:43 AM ET
looked like a pretty good effort, some guys seem to be waking up...

I find it disturbing and ignorant for berube to make jokes about the shoot outs, I understand he thinks its a gimmick and all but its part of the game much like the extra point in football and should be practiced seriously and taken serious

if chip Kelly was coach flyers I can guarantee that the shoot out would be figured out

- mydoglicks


How exactly should a Coach figure out the shootout? It's simply a skills breakaway competition. Send out the best guys, and hope they score. And hope the goalie makes the save. The most the coaching staff can do is give scouting reports on shooters or goaltenders. Not much to figure out.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 15 @ 7:45 AM ET
With a 99% chance we'd still lose that lottery
- JoeRussomanno


This year there's at least a comparable consolation prize.
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Oct 15 @ 7:46 AM ET
How exactly should a Coach figure out the shootout? It's simply a skills breakaway competition. Send out the best guys, and hope they score. And hope the goalie makes the save. The most the coaching staff can do is give scouting reports on shooters or goaltenders. Not much to figure out.
- MJL


I think they should use Grossman, L schenn, and Giroux. I mean the first two would score simply because they would move to slow and put the goalie to sleep and then g just comes along and puts it in while the goalie is sleeping. I should be coach.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Oct 15 @ 7:47 AM ET
I dont think its hextals plan to be in mediocrity. I see he wants to let this team as is and see where it goes as some contracts expire or can be moved. I give it a 2-3 year plan and this team will be a nightmare for teams to play against especially with up and coming d.
- jmdodgeser4

I am as optimistic about the prospects as the next fan but there seems to be this almost certainty that they are going to pan out. Almost every ranking service has the Flyers prospects pool in the bottom 3rd of the league. Plus by the time the defense prospects are hitting their stride at the NHL level, the Flyers best forwards will be at the tail end of their primes. Getting trapped in mediocrity is a very real possibility.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Oct 15 @ 7:48 AM ET
This year there's at least a comparable consolation prize.
- Jsaquella

Ok can we still just promote ghost and laughton then? Its really a win win scenario that way.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 15 @ 7:49 AM ET
Ok can we still just promote ghost and laughton then? Its really a win win scenario that way.
- JoeRussomanno

No, it's not. Ghost isn't ready, and ok, yeah bring up Laughton
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