Can someone explain what this term generational player means?
- JoeRussomanno

He will play for generations. Your kids will see them play. Their kids will see them play. Their kid's kids will see them play.

I would define it as a "best or one of the best players in his age group" type of guy.
- johndewar

I would say in terms pf raw talent then, giroux fits the latter part of that definition

Nobody wants to blow it up, just tweaked
- JoeRussomanno

I just want pieces that fit. Move B. Schenn for a natural winger. Move Vinny to make a spot for Couturier to be more offensive and laughton to take the defensive starts. Move a dman so Gostisbiere can come up mid season. I just woiuld like to see the right pieces so the team fits better.

Can someone explain what this term generational player means?
- JoeRussomanno

It USED to mean a player who transcends his peers by a wide margin during his time (Howe, Richard, Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux). Now it just means, "One of the game's best players."

Here is a comparison for you. Here are two players and there rank in the league in overall scoring for their age 22-26 seasons.

Claude Giroux: 13th, 3rd, 14th, 3rd,
Player X: 4th, 12th, 10th, 5th.

Not a whole ton of difference. That player is Mark Recchi.

I never said Giroux wasn't a great player, it was a a talent debate between those at the top and the rest. Also said he escapes all blame in this town compared to Lindros and is treated as a generational type player by most flyers fans. He isn't generational. He's Mark Recchi.
- psuhockey

Mark Recchi is going to the HHOF.

I'll take that career for Giroux. You should be able to build a team around or with him.

He will play for generations. Your kids will see them play. Their kids will see them play. Their kid's kids will see them play.
- Streit2ThePoint

Can someone explain what this term generational player means?
- JoeRussomanno

Everyone defines it differently. Personally, I'd consider Wayne Gretzky, Bobby Orr, Mario Lemieux, Eric Lindros, Sidney Crosby and maybe Mike Bossy, Phil Esposito, Gordie Howe and Jaromir Jagr "generational".

Everyone defines it differently. Personally, I'd consider Wayne Gretzky, Bobby Orr, Mario Lemieux, Eric Lindros, Sidney Crosby and maybe Mike Bossy, Phil Esposito, Gordie Howe and Jaromir Jagr "generational".
- NickTheKid87

Where do enforcers fit?

It USED to mean a player who transcends his peers by a wide margin during his time (Howe, Richard, Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux). Now it just means, "One of the game's best players."
- jmatchett383

I like the old definition. Crosby is the only active "generational" talent in the game today, IMO.

Might be Leight or Laught, but Elliotte Friedman hinted that the Flyers may have suspected a down year.

In his 30 thoughts column, two interesting items appeared.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ong-reason/?__federated=1

Item ten is, that Hextall sought cap relief from Pronger, rather than having to use LTIR. He even tried to trade Pronger this summer.

Item 11 is a rumor that Hextall wanted some sort of lottery protection when he was trying to trade up for the 2014 1st overall pick. Basically, part of the demanded return would have been the Flyers 2015 1st rounder, and Hextall was seriously concerned it'd be a high pick.
- Jsaquella

Lottery protection is just common sense. No one wants to be the next Garth Snow.

Might be Leight or Laught, but Elliotte Friedman hinted that the Flyers may have suspected a down year.

In his 30 thoughts column, two interesting items appeared.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ong-reason/?__federated=1

Item ten is, that Hextall sought cap relief from Pronger, rather than having to use LTIR. He even tried to trade Pronger this summer.

Item 11 is a rumor that Hextall wanted some sort of lottery protection when he was trying to trade up for the 2014 1st overall pick. Basically, part of the demanded return would have been the Flyers 2015 1st rounder, and Hextall was seriously concerned it'd be a high pick.
- Jsaquella

I think you would have to be dead to not at least suspect this would be a down year.

Where do enforcers fit?
- JoeRussomanno

you can generally find a roster spot for them at the AHL level these days.

I like the old definition. Crosby is the only active "generational" talent in the game today, IMO.
- NickTheKid87

I think youre short changing a lot of players like toews, kane, weber, chara etc.

I like the old definition. Crosby is the only active "generational" talent in the game today, IMO.
- NickTheKid87

I think youre short changing a lot of players like toews, kane, weber, chara etc.

you can generally find a roster spot for them at the AHL level these days.

- Doc_Sarcasm

Like how i stuck yhat in there?

I like the old definition. Crosby is the only active "generational" talent in the game today, IMO.
- NickTheKid87

I think if you're in the Hart Trophy conversation on the regular, you should get consideration as a "generational" talent.

Can someone explain what this term generational player means?
- JoeRussomanno

I think it means a player who is head and shoulders above all other players in his general age range, and is a sure fire dominating player in the NHL.

That we had two in the league at once in Gretz and Lemieux was amazing.

Now we have 1 for sure in Crosby.

I think youre short changing a lot of players like toews, kane, weber, chara etc.
- JoeRussomanno

See, I don't think Toews, Kane, Weber, Chara are that far ahead of the pack. You have to be well ahead and to me, Crosby is the only player well ahead of the competition. The fact that Toews, Stamkos, Weber, Doughty, etc. are being considered makes them not generational talents. The group defeats the concept, or at least how I define it, per se.

I like the old definition. Crosby is the only active "generational" talent in the game today, IMO.
- NickTheKid87

The old definition IS the definition. The other definition is wrong.

Yea i think its why one of them has held true to his word when no anaheim forwards were traded for at the deadline and quit posting here, under that screen name anyway
- JoeRussomanno

Truly username Daman is a man of his word

I think if you're in the Hart Trophy conversation on the regular, you should get consideration as a "generational" talent.
- johndewar

We all define it differently and there is no right or wrong definition. People will argue it until they're blue in the face but that really accomplishes nothing. Steven Stamkos isn't any better or worse if he's labeled generational or not, ya know.

See, I don't think Toews, Kane, Weber, Chara are that far ahead of the pack. You have to be well ahead and to me, Crosby is the only player well ahead of the competition. The fact that Toews, Stamkos, Weber, Doughty, etc. are being considered makes them not generational talents. The group defeats the concept, or at least how I define it, per se.
- NickTheKid87

Ok thats fine.

The old definition IS the definition. The other definition is wrong.
- MBFlyerfan

That totally depends on what the definition of is, IS.

I like the old definition. Crosby is the only active "generational" talent in the game today, IMO.
- NickTheKid87

Agreed. To me, there are superstars littered throughout the league, but only 1-2 "generational" players per, well, generation.

That totally depends on what the definition of is, IS.
- Doc_Sarcasm

Did you inhale?