JoeRussomanno
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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Truly username Daman is a man of his word - BulliesPhan87
glad im not the only one who remembers the jersey gent, cheers |
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BulliesPhan87
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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I like the old definition. Crosby is the only active "generational" talent in the game today, IMO. - NickTheKid87
This is an accurate assessment, imo |
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BulliesPhan87
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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glad im not the only one who remembers the jersey gent, cheers - JoeRussomanno
good times, definitely noted in the grimoire of Meltzer thread lore |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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I think it means a player who is head and shoulders above all other players in his general age range, and is a sure fire dominating player in the NHL.
That we had two in the league at once in Gretz and Lemieux was amazing.
Now we have 1 for sure in Crosby. - MBFlyerfan
I think there can be more than 1.
50 - Richard/Howe
60s/70s - Orr, Esposito
80s/90s - Gretzky/Lemieux
00s-10s - Crosby |
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NickTheKid87
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 11.19.2010
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This is an accurate assessment, imo - BulliesPhan87
There doesn't have to be a generational talent in the league either. So after Crosby retires, maybe there is none. Who knows? McDavid could be one. MacKinnon too. Or both could just be really really good. This is all by my definition at least. |
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jak521
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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I think there can be more than 1.
50 - Richard/Howe
60s/70s - Orr, Esposito
80s/90s - Gretzky/Lemieux
00s-10s - Crosby - jmatchett383
What about a guy like Nicklas Lidstrom? |
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psuhockey
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Joined: 03.25.2011
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I think there can be more than 1.
50 - Richard/Howe
60s/70s - Orr, Esposito
80s/90s - Gretzky/Lemieux
00s-10s - Crosby - jmatchett383
You are forgetting Scott Niedermayer and even more so Lidstrom. |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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You are forgetting Scott Niedermayer and even more so Lidstrom. - psuhockey
Neither of which were generational talents.
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NickTheKid87
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 11.19.2010
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I think there can be more than 1.
50 - Richard/Howe
60s/70s - Orr, Esposito
80s/90s - Gretzky/Lemieux
00s-10s - Crosby - jmatchett383
This is pretty much what I'm thinking. You could make a case for Lindros. At the peak of his career, he may have been in a league only with Lemieux and Gretzky but we all know the story of his career. |
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jak521
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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Neither of which were generational talents. - MBFlyerfan
Unfortunately, the term is usually reserved for forwards... |
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JoeRussomanno
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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good times, definitely noted in the grimoire of Meltzer thread lore - BulliesPhan87
I cant believe him and others have completely left here |
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johndewar
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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This is pretty much what I'm thinking. You could make a case for Lindros. At the peak of his career, he may have been in a league only with Lemieux and Gretzky but we all know the story of his career. - NickTheKid87
If you make a case for Eric Lindros, why stop there?
What about Pavel Bure? He was potting 50 goals regularly in the same generation. Or Sergei Fedorov? There wasn't anything he couldn't do, really.
Talking about what is a "generational" talent reminds me of arguing who an "elite" QB is in football. You can't always say, but you know it when you see one. |
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mydoglicks
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Location: downingtown, PA Joined: 06.25.2009
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well if anyone was wondering
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JoeRussomanno
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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This is pretty much what I'm thinking. You could make a case for Lindros. At the peak of his career, he may have been in a league only with Lemieux and Gretzky but we all know the story of his career. - NickTheKid87
Lindros was definitely a generational player regardless how his career ended, most players dont end their careers winning hart trophies |
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johndewar
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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Unfortunately, the term is usually reserved for forwards... - jak521
Al Iafrate had a generational mullet.
/writes down "generational mullet" as the new name for my non-existent punk band |
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JoeRussomanno
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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If you make a case for Eric Lindros, why stop there?
What about Pavel Bure? He was potting 50 goals regularly in the same generation. Or Sergei Fedorov? There wasn't anything he couldn't do, really.
Talking about what is a "generational" talent reminds me of arguing who an "elite" QB is in football. You can't always say, but you know it when you see one. - johndewar
Lindros was much more multi faceted than federov or bure |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Unfortunately, the term is usually reserved for forwards... - jak521
Unless you're Bobby Orr.
Lidstrom is a close one, and so is Jagr. But to me, if I had to pick 2 for the 90s, it's probably Lidstrom and Hasek., with Hasek being the more dominant. |
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JoeRussomanno
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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well if anyone was wondering
- mydoglicks
U shpuld be banned for posting this abortion |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Lindros was much more multi faceted than federov or bure - JoeRussomanno
Agreed or Bure, disagree on Fedorov. Fedorov would have been winning scoring titles throughout the 90s if he wasn't playing defensive hockey or, when needed, defense. |
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JoeRussomanno
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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Agreed or Bure, disagree on Fedorov. Fedorov would have been winning scoring titles throughout the 90s if he wasn't playing defensive hockey or, when needed, defense. - jmatchett383
Ok fine, after all the guy was pretty good. |
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Doc_Sarcasm
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Location: Should of studied Geometry Joined: 04.28.2013
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Did you inhale? - jmatchett383
I imbibed AND inhaled. What does that have to do with anything?
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johndewar
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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Lindros was much more multi faceted than federov or bure - JoeRussomanno
I'll give you Bure, but I'm gonna disagree with you completely on Federov.
That dude won Selke trophies and was a better than a PPG player. He could play any role on the ice asked of him....scorer, shutdown forward, you name it. |
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BulliesPhan87
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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I cant believe him and others have completely left here - JoeRussomanno
they were proven unworthy in the hockeybuzz arena of internet combat |
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NickTheKid87
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 11.19.2010
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If you make a case for Eric Lindros, why stop there?
What about Pavel Bure? He was potting 50 goals regularly in the same generation. Or Sergei Fedorov? There wasn't anything he couldn't do, really.
Talking about what is a "generational" talent reminds me of arguing who an "elite" QB is in football. You can't always say, but you know it when you see one. - johndewar
Yup which is why it's just a semantics argument. If we're going by Hart Trophies, Gretzky is definite. Mario Lemieux wins more than 3 if not for Gretzky and cancer. Crosby probably has 4 or 5 right now without his injuries. Orr has 3 which is second most among defensemen, only behind Eddie Shore's four in the 30s. Gordie Howe won 6. Lindros may have won 5 if not for Lemieux, Gretzky and concussions. |
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JoeRussomanno
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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they were proven unworthy in the hockeybuzz arena of internet combat - BulliesPhan87
No guts |
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