Explain how we played 72 games with the Rangers in 01/02 and put up 73 points, then played a full healthy season of 82 games the next year and only put up 53. That's a serious decline.
- jmatchett383

he was a star that shone with a brightness surpassed only by its brevity.

i dont really condemn you for what youre saying, it just came out of left field to me.
- stayinthefnnet

Well, just talking about ebola and thinning out the population, and I have a way to thin out the population that doesn't involve car bombs, terrorist attacks, and/or kidknappings/beheadings.

Right...but you HAVE to include his whole career. Mario Lemieux had ridiculous back injuries and cancer, and he came back and still was outright dominating. Howe almost died, had to have a hole drilled into his skull, and came back and dominated. Gretzky missed almost a whole season with back injury (surgery), and came back and was scoring 100+ points. Lindros was never able to recapture his Flyers numbers.
- jmatchett383

How about this...without Lindros, the Flyers would not be the francise they are today...he single handedly made them a nightly must watch team.

ISIS ≠ Entire Middle East
- Tomahawk

Man, don't even get started. You know it's going nowhere. That kind of comment speaks for itself.

The thought process for Lindros was that he could protect himself. He gave as good as he got.
- johndewar

Clarke gave as good as he got and no one could touch him.

Doesn't matter if your star can protect himself or not. That's why you have guys no the team that can take care of it.

ISIS ≠ Entire Middle East
- Tomahawk

They're as guilty as all of the people who worked at the WTC. And the Pentagon.And the people on board flight 93. And Western Journalists.

But let's not be mean. Just keep killing Americans, we can't risk any casualties in your countries.

ISIS ≠ Entire Middle East
- Tomahawk

Let's just eradicate millions of wonderful people because of the actions of a handful. Not sure how you can argue against this premise.

Well, just talking about ebola and thinning out the population, and I have a way to thin out the population that doesn't involve car bombs, terrorist attacks, and/or kidknappings/beheadings.
- jmatchett383

fair enough. i dont want to fill your board with political back and forth or whatever. ill just leave it as i was surprised is all.

Clarke gave as good as he got and no one could touch him.

Doesn't matter if your star can protect himself or not. That's why you have guys no the team that can take care of it.
- KGBflyers10

So you're saying the Flyers should keep Rosehill on the roster to protect Giroux?

Man, don't even get started. You know it's going nowhere. That kind of comment speaks for itself.
- AllInForFlyers

Seriously.

I think the mantra that we loose shootouts because we don't score enough is just wrong.

Looking at the stats our scoring percentage is just shy of the middle of the road by comparison but our save percentage is the worst in the league.

League Average scoring percentage in shootouts = 32.7% Flyers = 29.1%

League Average save percentage = .67% Flyers = .57%

Let's just eradicate millions of wonderful people because of the actions of a handful. Not sure how you can argue against this premise.
- bradleyc4

Millions of people in your country, some you may know and love, or millions of people you've never met. Not a good choice either way, but an easy one for me.

How about this...without Lindros, the Flyers would not be the francise they are today...he single handedly made them a nightly must watch team.
- JW98FlyerFan

I'll buy this. For the generation of fans a bit younger than me (I'll be 29 for the 15th time in a couple of weeks), Lindros was their favorite player growing.

Acquiring Lindros paved the way to get the funding necessary to build the Wells Fargo Center. It eventually would have likely gotten built because alot franchises (well, except the Islanders) were getting arenas at the time, but I think the Lindros acquisition gave that place a marquee guy to sell suites to corporations, etc.

So you're saying the Flyers should keep Rosehill on the roster to protect Giroux?
- jmatchett383

No, I am not. Rosehill is irrelevant. The game is changed now. Enforcers--big guys who can only throw punches are not needed. Guys like Shawn Thornton who can skate and do stuff are important. But just because there's no enforcers doesn't mean you can't enforce the rules on the ice.

Millions of people in your country, some you may know and love, or millions of people you've never met. Not a good choice either way, but an easy one for me.
- jmatchett383

Enough now.

How about this...without Lindros, the Flyers would not be the francise they are today...he single handedly made them a nightly must watch team.
- JW98FlyerFan

Fine. He's as generational as Alexander Ovechkin and Teemu Selanne.

They're as guilty as all of the people who worked at the WTC. And the Pentagon.And the people on board flight 93. And Western Journalists.

But let's not be mean. Just keep killing Americans, we can't risk any casualties in your countries.
- jmatchett383

its why they do what they do. whether you categorize it as weakness or compassion, they know theyre by and large going to be able to hide behind it. it is a poopty situation with no solution free of some form of negative ramifications.

No, I am not. Rosehill is irrelevant. The game is changed now. Enforcers--big guys who can only throw punches are not needed. Guys like Shawn Thornton who can skate and do stuff are important. But just because there's no enforcers doesn't mean you can't enforce the rules on the ice.
- KGBflyers10

Just get rid of the instigator rule

John Ferguson and Dave Schultz changed the way the game was played. I don't think they're "generational."

Also, you basically said Coffey just copied what Orr did. As for Brodeur, I'd argue Hextall was more revolutionary because, were it not for him, guys like Brodeur/Mason wouldn't handle the puck as much.
- jmatchett383

I'd take take Ray Bourque, Mark Howe and Nick Lidstrom over Coffey any day. All three could provide ample offense and QB a powerplay AND all 3 were top notch defenders and played 200 feet. Furthermore, all 3 could have put up Coffey like numbers if they:
A. Played with Gretzky, and
B. Sacrificed defense for offense every time they hit the ice

Watch any game Coffey played in during his prime. If his team has a 1 or 2 goal lead late in the game, he won't be on the ice.

Millions of people in your country, some you may know and love, or millions of people you've never met. Not a good choice either way, but an easy one for me.
- jmatchett383

Those aren't the only two choices.

Clarke gave as good as he got and no one could touch him.

Doesn't matter if your star can protect himself or not. That's why you have guys no the team that can take care of it.
- KGBflyers10

Oh, no doubt.

Ironically, Lindros was probably the best fighter on every Flyer team he played on.

No, I am not. Rosehill is irrelevant. The game is changed now. Enforcers--big guys who can only throw punches are not needed. Guys like Shawn Thornton who can skate and do stuff are important. But just because there's no enforcers doesn't mean you can't enforce the rules on the ice.
- KGBflyers10

Those aren't the only two choices.
- bradleyc4

They are if you think like Hitler or Stalin.

Those aren't the only two choices.
- bradleyc4

Enlighten me on how we can significantly eliminate terrorist attacks on innocent US civilians from all current internationally-based terrorist groups. Go.

Fine. He's as generational as Alexander Ovechkin and Teemu Selanne.
- jmatchett383

ill buy that comparison. it seems like you guys are arguing more over the definition of generational than an evaluation of lindros as an exhibit anyway.