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tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Oct 15 @ 4:27 PM ET
Yup. Agreed. He's got good size, fairly mobile and good at moving the puck up and out of the zone. He's a good comparison for MacDonald, actually
- Jsaquella


Not sure I'd do Coburn, but it would be 1.425 savings this year, then Petry goes UFA.

Coburn hits UFA after next season.

If they'd be giving up picks, though...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 15 @ 4:31 PM ET
Not sure I'd do Coburn, but it would be 1.425 savings this year, then Petry goes UFA.

Coburn hits UFA after next season.

If they'd be giving up picks, though...

- tangent_man


That was Butsy's view...Grab picks, Petry is solid, although a slight downgrade from Coburn.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Oct 15 @ 4:33 PM ET
That was Butsy's view...Grab picks, Petry is solid, although a slight downgrade from Coburn.
- Jsaquella


Giving up Coburn for a lesser guy is calling this season a wash, unless Hexy has other moves up his sleeve.

That kinda throws 'patience' out the window.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 15 @ 4:34 PM ET
That was Butsy's view...Grab picks, Petry is solid, although a slight downgrade from Coburn.
- Jsaquella


Would Tyler Dellow shoot down Amac for Petry?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 15 @ 4:35 PM ET
Coburn is too much for Petry. Try and pawn LSchenn off on them.

Or give them MacDonald for a massive increase in cap flexibility, and so he's not the main topic of half these threads till 2020.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 15 @ 4:35 PM ET
Would Tyler Dellow shoot down Amac for Petry?
- Tomahawk



If it happened, he might shoot AMac
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 15 @ 4:36 PM ET
Giving up Coburn for a lesser guy is calling this season a wash, unless Hexy has other moves up his sleeve.

That kinda throws 'patience' out the window.

- tangent_man



It is, in a sense. I'm not sure I'd do it at all, let alone right now. I like the picks aspect
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 15 @ 4:46 PM ET
ugh. back on that memory trail buddy.

but still, you know what i mean. its not as if either team has been a perennial bottom dweller for the past decade. when they make it to the playoffs, there is no oh well were just pretty happy to be here sentiment.

columbus and NYI still have that. but they have pretty nice futures

- stayinthefnnet


If Wang sells, and Snow follows him out, I could see the organizational complexion changing in an instant -- like the 'Hawks when Dollar Bill died. Aside from some old hats like Boulton, none of the kids have been steeped long enough in the culture to really get tainted.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 15 @ 4:51 PM ET
Giving up Coburn for a lesser guy is calling this season a wash, unless Hexy has other moves up his sleeve.

That kinda throws 'patience' out the window.

- tangent_man


They can't call this season a wash, four games in -- they can't.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 15 @ 4:57 PM ET
Clearly hearsay!
- stayinthefnnet

he used to be a hockey coach so what does he know right?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 15 @ 4:58 PM ET
I read the threads each day, so I know where most people stand and since I say it often enough, perhaps some others know where I stand.

But this team can make the playoffs with a healthy Coburn, if the right people stay healthy.

They haven't won yet. I get it. And they're not the best team out there, and they might be little more than first-round fodder.

But making the playoffs matters. Players learning how to produce under pressure matters. Producing in the regular seasons, showing consistency or developing it, over 82 games matters.

I understand no one is saying they should tank. I get it.

But they can't call this season a wash yet. They need to be more consistent. They have to play better team defense. But the team we see in bursts can make the playoffs, and I honestly believe that is hugely important, though they are imperfect.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 15 @ 4:58 PM ET
he used to be a hockey coach so what does he know right?
- 2Real

well, other than the fact that im just messing around with you, he could be mike babcock and it would still be hearsay
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 15 @ 4:59 PM ET
They can't call this season a wash, four games in -- they can't.
- AllInForFlyers


It's as dumb as firing lavy 3 games in. Prepare for a wash in the offseason and trade away older vets then or give this season time to play out a bit first. Lavy should have been given more time or let go in the summer.

I'm just happy to see Simmonds taking the next step in his development. Fun to watch so far.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Oct 15 @ 4:59 PM ET
If Wang sells, and Snow follows him out, I could see the organizational complexion changing in an instant -- like the 'Hawks when Dollar Bill died. Aside from some old hats like Boulton, none of the kids have been steeped long enough in the culture to really get tainted.
- Tomahawk

and the move could help with the fresh start, as well
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 15 @ 5:00 PM ET
Just jammed in a music room in the middle of a building on campus with a few guitarists. I was on a poopty drum kit. And the piano for Simple Man.

Many people were confused.

Some even enjoyed it
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Oct 15 @ 5:07 PM ET
I read the threads each day, so I know where most people stand and since I say it often enough, perhaps some others know where I stand.

But this team can make the playoffs with a healthy Coburn, if the right people stay healthy.

They haven't won yet. I get it. And they're not the best team out there, and they might be little more than first-round fodder.

But making the playoffs matters. Players learning how to produce under pressure matters. Producing in the regular seasons, showing consistency or developing it, over 82 games matters.

I understand no one is saying they should tank. I get it.

But they can't call this season a wash yet. They need to be more consistent. They have to play better team defense. But the team we see in bursts can make the playoffs, and I honestly believe that is hugely important, though they are imperfect.

- AllInForFlyers


MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Oct 15 @ 5:15 PM ET
howabout both MDZ and Schenn for Tyler Myers ?
5.5m coming in, 4.9 coming off
and we get to call up Ghost
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 15 @ 5:19 PM ET
howabout both MDZ and Schenn for Tyler Myers ?
5.5m coming in, 4.9 coming off
and we get to call up Ghost

- MrBigglesworth

Buffalo never takes that imo
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 15 @ 5:26 PM ET
Just jammed in a music room in the middle of a building on campus with a few guitarists. I was on a poopty drum kit. And the piano for Simple Man.

Many people were confused.

Some even enjoyed it

- Giroux_Is_God


The deaf students?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 15 @ 5:27 PM ET
howabout both MDZ and Schenn for Tyler Myers ?
5.5m coming in, 4.9 coming off
and we get to call up Ghost

- MrBigglesworth


Pffffff, tell them to toss in a 1st rounder, too.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 15 @ 5:27 PM ET
The deaf students?
- Jsaquella

And here I was for the last 2+ years thinking you were cool
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 15 @ 5:30 PM ET
And here I was for the last 2+ years thinking you were cool
- Giroux_Is_God



That makes you unique
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 15 @ 5:32 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: After Comeback Point, Flyers Fall Again in Shootout
- bmeltzer


They'll be this years Devils in the shootout
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 15 @ 5:38 PM ET
@NHLFlyers: Breaking: The #Flyers have recalled C Chris VandeVelde from the @LVPhantoms. Details → http://t.co/De4164xwgP
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 15 @ 5:41 PM ET
@NHLFlyers: Breaking: The #Flyers have recalled C Chris VandeVelde from the @LVPhantoms. Details → http://t.co/De4164xwgP
- Jsaquella


Thanks Chief
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