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Roytastic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 06.18.2013

Oct 16 @ 1:07 AM ET
And this mean what? Your also on the other side of the topic, so this means absolutely nothing if you really want to get into this completely different conversation.
- SuperSchennBros



Can anyone explain to me what the hell he's trying to say? Poor grammar aside, this just looks nonsensical to me.
wilsonecho91
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Oct 16 @ 1:08 AM ET
Can anyone explain to me what the hell he's trying to say? Poor grammar aside, this just looks nonsensical to me.
- Roytastic

Let's just move on. Nothing to gain either way here.

Anyone wand to pry Perron out of Edmonton?
SuperSchennBros
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Oct 16 @ 1:09 AM ET
I think if we had all the info you are probably right. But Homer had no reason to respond publicly here. Whether he did or didn't do what Gagne said. So that's that.
- wilsonecho91

But we don't have all the info, which heavily pushes me in Gagne's favour. Is it just easier to live in blissful ignorance. Do have to bring up topics of chosen players some fans of these boards choose to hate by only have the information or simply not in the dressing room at all to see things play out play by play?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 16 @ 1:10 AM ET
I simply have no reason not to believe Gagne, if Homer doesn't comment on that situation. Cut and dry. This works with most situations. It doesn't matter if it's a situation of discipline or a light-hearted disagreement between two bodies.
- SuperSchennBros


I have a reason not to believe Gagne. He's pissed off and angry that the Flyers chose not to re-sign him. People who are angry about a situation might give a biased or untrue take on the situation. They may have an axe to grind.

Again, I'm not going to blame Holmgren just because Gagne is angry and hurt. I'm not absolving Holmgren. I am saying I'm not going to form an opinion because only one guy has spoken.

In my experience, quite often people who express their side of the story with anger and accusations are simply looking for sympathy or some other kind of benefit.

Maybe Gagne has a legitimate beef. maybe he doesn't. I don't have enough information to say one way or the other.
SuperSchennBros
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Oct 16 @ 1:10 AM ET
Can anyone explain to me what the hell he's trying to say? Poor grammar aside, this just looks nonsensical to me.
- Roytastic


Wow, really that much trouble reading in between the lines? I didn't type it out in french.
wilsonecho91
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 16 @ 1:11 AM ET
But we don't have all the info, which heavily pushes me in Gagne's favour. Is it just easier to live in blissful ignorance. Do have to bring up topics of chosen players some fans of these boards choose to hate by only have the information or simply not in the dressing room at all to see things play out play by play?
- SuperSchennBros


I don't know.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 16 @ 1:11 AM ET
Let's just move on. Nothing to gain either way here.

Anyone wand to pry Perron out of Edmonton?

- wilsonecho91


Yes. How about the Schenns and Coburn for Perron, Petry and a 2nd?
wilsonecho91
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 16 @ 1:12 AM ET
If Edmonton gets McDavid, maybe some of their other guys will become expendable. What a dumpster fire.
wilsonecho91
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Oct 16 @ 1:13 AM ET
Yes. How about the Schenns and Coburn for Perron, Petry and a 2nd?
- Jsaquella


I was thinking B. Schenn and Grossmann for Petry and Perron.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 16 @ 1:13 AM ET
If Edmonton gets McDavid, maybe some of their other guys will become expendable. What a dumpster fire.
- wilsonecho91


If they get that top pick, they should offer it up to land a stud defenseman and or goalie
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 16 @ 1:13 AM ET
Can anyone explain to me what the hell he's trying to say? Poor grammar aside, this just looks nonsensical to me.
- Roytastic

SuperSchennBros
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Oct 16 @ 1:13 AM ET
I have a reason not to believe Gagne. He's pissed off and angry that the Flyers chose not to re-sign him. People who are angry about a situation might give a biased or untrue take on the situation. They may have an axe to grind.

Again, I'm not going to blame Holmgren just because Gagne is angry and hurt. I'm not absolving Holmgren. I am saying I'm not going to form an opinion because only one guy has spoken.

In my experience, quite often people who express their side of the story with anger and accusations are simply looking for sympathy or some other kind of benefit.

Maybe Gagne has a legitimate beef. maybe he doesn't. I don't have enough information to say one way or the other.

- Jsaquella

When did Gagne make these comments? Was it at the start of the summer when most GM announce who will be allowed to see free agency or were these comments made at the end of an entire summer?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 16 @ 1:14 AM ET
I was thinking B. Schenn and Grossmann for Petry and Perron.
- wilsonecho91


I'd do that faster than the Waco Kid drew a sixgun. But I don't see Edmonton agreeing
Giroux_Is_God
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Oct 16 @ 1:15 AM ET
I'd do that faster than the Waco Kid drew a sixgun. But I don't see Edmonton agreeing
- Jsaquella

Little bastard shot me in the azzz...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 16 @ 1:16 AM ET
When did Gagne make these comments? Was it at the start of the summer when most GM announce who will be allowed to see free agency or were these comments made at the end of an entire summer?
- SuperSchennBros


They were made during the season when he was unsigned and again while he was in Boston on a PTO and uncertain of a deal.

Again, I'm not saying that Gagne isn't right. I'm saying I don't have enough information to make an educated decision.

Roytastic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 06.18.2013

Oct 16 @ 1:16 AM ET
Let's just move on. Nothing to gain either way here.

Anyone wand to pry Perron out of Edmonton?

- wilsonecho91



I wouldn't be against it but I would be worried to know what Edmonton would be asking for in return.

Having Perron would open up some options for the first line such as making it an easier decision to maybe drop Voracek down to the second and simmer up the first.

But you do have injury concerns with Perron and he doesn't shoot quite enough to fulfill the need I think the top 6 is missing.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 16 @ 1:17 AM ET
Little bastard shot me in the azzz...
- Giroux_Is_God



I started watching it the other day, but the kids came home...they're a bit young for Richard Pryor and Mel Brooks shredding racism.
SuperSchennBros
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Oct 16 @ 1:17 AM ET
They were made during the season when he was unsigned and again while he was in Boston on a PTO and uncertain of a deal.

Again, I'm not saying that Gagne isn't right. I'm saying I don't have enough information to make an educated decision.

- Jsaquella


You have enough.
wilsonecho91
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Oct 16 @ 1:18 AM ET
I wouldn't be against it but I would be worried to know what Edmonton would be asking for in return.

Having Perron would open up some options for the first line such as making it an easier decision to maybe drop Voracek down to the second and simmer up the first.

But you do have injury concerns with Perron and he doesn't shoot quite enough to fulfill the need I think the top 6 is missing.

- Roytastic


Doesn't he play LW? If I'm right and he does, that makes the top line an easy choice
Roytastic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 06.18.2013

Oct 16 @ 1:19 AM ET
Yes. How about the Schenns and Coburn for Perron, Petry and a 2nd?
- Jsaquella



I'd be hesitant to give up Schenn for Perron. Even though he's off to a sluggish start I don't think Perron will outproduce Schenn this year.
Roytastic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 06.18.2013

Oct 16 @ 1:19 AM ET
Wow, really that much trouble reading in between the lines? I didn't type it out in french.
- SuperSchennBros



You sound like a drunk annoying ex girlfriend.
wilsonecho91
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 16 @ 1:19 AM ET
I'd be hesitant to give up Schenn for Perron. Even though he's off to a sluggish start I don't think Perron will outproduce Schenn this year.
- Roytastic


On the Flyers he would IMO. (frank)ing Vincent
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 16 @ 1:20 AM ET


I started watching it the other day, but the kids came home...they're a bit young for Richard Pryor and Mel Brooks shredding racism.

- Jsaquella

Just a tad, eh?

I remember my dad showed me the beans scene when I was little. I had forgotten/not cared/not realized what movie it was from, obviously, until I saw it 10-15 years later
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 16 @ 1:20 AM ET
I wouldn't be against it but I would be worried to know what Edmonton would be asking for in return.

Having Perron would open up some options for the first line such as making it an easier decision to maybe drop Voracek down to the second and simmer up the first.

But you do have injury concerns with Perron and he doesn't shoot quite enough to fulfill the need I think the top 6 is missing.

- Roytastic


Another factor in Perron is, he's a shifty bastard with a lot of moves. I think he'd be a good shootout guy. He's right near 50% over the past few years in the Gimmick
SuperSchennBros
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Oct 16 @ 1:22 AM ET
You sound like a drunk annoying ex girlfriend.
- Roytastic


Good one??
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