Another factor in Perron is, he's a shifty bastard with a lot of moves. I think he'd be a good shootout guy. He's right near 50% over the past few years in the Gimmick
- Jsaquella

I think he'd look good in the East

You have enough.
- SuperSchennBros

You might have enough. I do not.

Doesn't he play LW? If I'm right and he does, that makes the top line an easy choice
- wilsonecho91

Yea he does. I'm just saying I think having someone that is more of a shooter than Perron is would work better with Giroux and Voracek because all 3 of those players have more of a pass first shoot second mentality.

You might have enough. I do not.
- Jsaquella

Well then I suppose I've given you too much credit.

I'd be hesitant to give up Schenn for Perron. Even though he's off to a sluggish start I don't think Perron will outproduce Schenn this year.
- Roytastic

I think that's what it would take to get it done. I'm not in love with the price. I just expect it to be significant/

Yea he does. I'm just saying I think having someone that is more of a shooter than Perron is would work better with Giroux and Voracek because all 3 of those players have more of a pass first shoot second mentality.
- Roytastic

Good point. I think Jake's speed really helps open things up for G so I hesitate to split them up.

Well then I suppose I've given you too much credit.
- SuperSchennBros

...I'm just gonna call it. Time for some music.

Night fellas. Hare krishna.

Another factor in Perron is, he's a shifty bastard with a lot of moves. I think he'd be a good shootout guy. He's right near 50% over the past few years in the Gimmick
- Jsaquella

You're definitely right, I just hate that the SO actually has to be taken into consideration..

Well then I suppose I've given you too much credit.
- SuperSchennBros

Whatever. If you want to make judgements without all the info, more power to you.

Just a tad, eh?

I remember my dad showed me the beans scene when I was little. I had forgotten/not cared/not realized what movie it was from, obviously, until I saw it 10-15 years later
- Giroux_Is_God

I've let them see the beans scene, the scene where Mongo punches the horse and the candygram scene.

If you don't mind the terrible +/- Campbell will likely have, I'd drop Demers for him.
- Roytastic

oh man but i absolutely love Demers but he's not getting the good d pair this year

Whatever. If you want to make judgements without all the info, more power to you.
- Jsaquella

People do it all the time! We can go back 2 pages on this board to find it.

Good point. I think Jake's speed really helps open things up for G so I hesitate to split them up.
- wilsonecho91

I agree but if you were able to slide Simmer up, I think he would be able to create space for Giroux as well. He's not quite as fast as Jake, but he's a bull along the boards and in front of the net. If you were able to somehow get Perron without giving up Schenn, I'd like to see lines something like this for the top 6.

Perron-G-Simmer
Schenn-Vinny-Jake

I think they're pretty well balanced and everyone compliments each other pretty nicely.

You're definitely right, I just hate that the SO actually has to be taken into consideration..
- Roytastic

Yep, but it is a factor.

The good thing about Perron is, he's still fairly young at age 26. He's got a reasonable cap hit at just under $3.9mm. He's got good speed and offensive ability. He could do a ton of damage with Giroux or even Lecavalier.

People do it all the time! We can go back 2 pages on this board to find it.
- SuperSchennBros

I'm sure we can. In this case I have enough doubt to decline to make a decision. If that makes you respect me less, well, honestly, I'll manage to live with that.

Yep, but it is a factor.

The good thing about Perron is, he's still fairly young at age 26. He's got a reasonable cap hit at just under $3.9mm. He's got good speed and offensive ability. He could do a ton of damage with Giroux or even Lecavalier.
- Jsaquella

True but even though Schenn is only 3 years younger, it's a pretty big difference when you start to look at when our D prospects might start making an impact. Perron will probably be leaving his prime while Schenn will be entering it.

True but even though Schenn is only 3 years younger, it's a pretty big difference when you start to look at when our D prospects might start making an impact. Perron will probably be leaving his prime while Schenn will be entering it.
- Roytastic

True, but it's a risk I would consider. You can look at Perron and say, OK this dude is 20-25 goals in the bank and he's going to be a dynamic offensive player. Schenn may well develop into a good player, but if he doesn't improve then you're stuck with him.

I think he can improve, but Edmonton's not dealing away a guy like Perron unless you give something significant in return. It's a catch-22.

I'd rather deal Schenn for defense help than a forward, TBH. all things considered. But to get Perron I think he;d have to be part of it

How long until Marty dons the orange and blue?

How long until Marty dons the orange and blue?
- wilsonecho91

I think we might see Bryz go there before Brodeur. My God, I can't even tell how bad their defense is because the goalies were so bad.

Anyhow the game is over and I'm hittign the hay.

I think we might see Bryz go there before Brodeur. My God, I can't even tell how bad their defense is because the goalies were so bad.
- Jsaquella

Good point and Bryz has the history. Scrivens was horrendous tonight but their blue line sucks too. Schultz plays like an uninterested Mike Green.

True, but it's a risk I would consider. You can look at Perron and say, OK this dude is 20-25 goals in the bank and he's going to be a dynamic offensive player. Schenn may well develop into a good player, but if he doesn't improve then you're stuck with him.

I think he can improve, but Edmonton's not dealing away a guy like Perron unless you give something significant in return. It's a catch-22.

I'd rather deal Schenn for defense help than a forward, TBH. all things considered. But to get Perron I think he;d have to be part of it
- Jsaquella

I think I'm in the minority with this one, but I think Schenn is almost a lock for 20-25 as well. His early season woes have put some doubt on that but I think he's still good for it. But I agree Perron is definitely much more creative and dynamic, as you said, in the offensive zone. If Perron was a better on the defensive side I would be all over it but I don't think there's enough of difference to value the potential of Schenn less than the proven commodity of Perron.

I'm actually more worried about the future of our offense than the future of defense at this point. Which is a strange place to be as a Flyer's fan. We just don't have much offensive help coming through the pipeline. Now that obviously could change very quickly if you have even one good draft but I'm kinda concerned we may be in a similar situation to Nashville in a few years. Solid D but can't put the puck in the net.

I think we might see Bryz go there before Brodeur. My God, I can't even tell how bad their defense is because the goalies were so bad.

Anyhow the game is over and I'm hittign the hay.
- Jsaquella

Oiler's have already gone down the Bryz path though. They may want to try something different and bring in Brodeur. Maybe hope he can teach Scrivens a thing or two.

I think we might see Bryz go there before Brodeur. My God, I can't even tell how bad their defense is because the goalies were so bad.

Anyhow the game is over and I'm hittign the hay.
- Jsaquella

Oiler's have already gone down the Bryz path though. They may want to try something different and bring in Brodeur. Maybe hope he can teach Scrivens a thing or two.

Trade everyone, insult their agents and call Panaccio a ahole?
- BiggE

Sometimes, each of those things is required

Yep, but it is a factor.

The good thing about Perron is, he's still fairly young at age 26. He's got a reasonable cap hit at just under $3.9mm. He's got good speed and offensive ability. He could do a ton of damage with Giroux or even Lecavalier.
- Jsaquella

I agree Peron would be dynamite on this team. However, he is also one of the few things going well for EDM right now and I see no reason why they would trade him. I could see them trading Eberle before Peron. I'm not sure which I would rather have- I lean towards Peron because he has grit and grit is gold IMHO.

EDM might offer Petry and Eberle for Scheens and Coburn. Personally I don't do that. I need to move a poor contract as the third piece. B Scheen Coburn and AMAC or Vinny. I'm listening.