apparently after Elias iced the puck and TB called their timeout, Zajac snuck on the ice for Havlat and took the last faceoff
- Senor_Elias

I believe they were allowed to change because TB took the TO. If the Devils called a TO then they would not be allowed to sub.

I believe they were allowed to change because TB took the TO. If the Devils called a TO then they would not be allowed to sub.
- Gambi99

Kinda thought icing should have been waived off there anyway. Puck could have been played before reaching the line.

Kinda thought icing should have been waived off there anyway. Puck could have been played before reaching the line.
- smellmyfinger

I thought the coach of TB messed up by calling a TO and not only giving NJ a breather but also allowing them to change.

I thought the coach of TB messed up by calling a TO and not only giving NJ a breather but also allowing them to change.
- Gambi99

And PDB tried to return the favor by leaving Salvador out there.

And PDB tried to return the favor by leaving Salvador out there.
- smellmyfinger

I believe they were allowed to change because TB took the TO. If the Devils called a TO then they would not be allowed to sub.
- Gambi99

Is that really a rule?

Yeah, from what I gather the refs all talk to each other constantly and have profiles on every player/coach. I don't imagine they'll be giving us many breaks after we took advantage of them.
- TheJerseyDevil1

Thing is, no one is really talking about it. Not the other coach or anyone on TB, not anyone who recapped the game that I saw, etc. Certainly no one on NJ said anything. So I wouldn't be surprised if the refs still don't even realize it.

I believe they were allowed to change because TB took the TO. If the Devils called a TO then they would not be allowed to sub.
- Gambi99

I don't believe that is an actual rule, coaches call timeouts to give the players a rest after an icing if it was a long shift

Unless that was changed this year

Is that really a rule?
- CaptCrankypants

Yes I believe so. It only says the "offending" team calls a TO they cannot change .

Here is the rule:

81.4 Line Change on Icing - A team that is in violation of this rule shall not be permitted to make any player substitutions prior to the ensuing face-off. Should the stoppage of play following the icing infraction coincide with a commercial time-out, or should the offending team elect to utilize their team time-out at this stoppage of play, they are still not permitted to make any player substitutions. However, a team shall be permitted to make a player substitution to replace a goalkeeper who had been substituted for an extra attacker, to replace an injured player, or when a penalty has been assessed which affects the on-ice strength of either team. The determination of players on ice will be made when the puck leaves the offending player’s stick.

Edit-- So in this case the Devils were the "offending" team but it was Tampa Bay who called a Time Out so the Devils were allowed to change.

I don't believe that is an actual rule, coaches call timeouts to give the players a rest after an icing if it was a long shift

Unless that was changed this year
- dmarsden2988

Yes because they are the offending team but Tampa Bay called a TO not the Devils

Learn something new everyday never reliezed the full details of that rule. Just thought if you iced it you are stuck on the ice no matter what.

I believe they were allowed to change because TB took the TO. If the Devils called a TO then they would not be allowed to sub.
- Gambi99

interesting, lucky it worked out for us

Tanner Pearson in 4 games has 4 goals and 6 points. Leads Kings in both categories.

Tanner Pearson in 4 games has 4 goals and 6 points. Leads Kings in both categories.
- Devils9503

why does that make us sad?

Yes I believe so. It only says the "offending" team calls a TO they cannot change .

Here is the rule:



Edit-- So in this case the Devils were the "offending" team but it was Tampa Bay who called a Time Out so the Devils were allowed to change.
- Gambi99

That doesn't indicate to me that the Devils are allowed to change if TB calls a time out, just that NJ can't change players even if they call a time out. It doesn't say anything about the other team calling one.

why does that make us sad?
- TheJerseyDevil1

I suppose because he was drafted #30 after we took Matteau #29.

I suppose because he was drafted #30 after we took Matteau #29.
- smellmyfinger

Oh. The Kings are just better than us though, I'm sure Matteau would look great by now if he was playing on that team too.

I suppose because he was drafted #30 after we took Matteau #29.
- smellmyfinger

Yep. Kings got a second line player, we got a 4th line player. Seems like our forward drafting has remained the same.

Oh. The Kings are just better than us though, I'm sure Matteau would look great by now if he was playing on that team too.
- TheJerseyDevil1

Even if Matteau was on the Kings I don't think he would be playing since he couldn't even crack our team.

Yep. Kings got a second line player, we got a 4th line player. Seems like our forward drafting has remained the same.
- Devils9503

Rather have Matteau than Brady Skjei

Matteau is 2 years younger then pearson

Matteau is 2 years younger then pearson
- BDizzlez

AND he's on pace for 134 points in the AHL this year

Matteau is 2 years younger then pearson
- BDizzlez

Checked and surprised to see that. I guess Pearson was passed over in prior drafts.

Sharp comment about Andy Greene's PP time Todd - didn't notice that myself.

I wonder if they're using the Scott Stevens strategy with him. Stevens scored a ton early in his career but then Lemaire took him off the PP (they had Niedermayer and Driver anyway). The rationale: which line does the opposition put on the ice right after they kill a penalty - their top line and who do you want against them - Scott Stevens.

It was a great team strategy for the Devils although it might have cost Stevens a Norris trophy at some point.

By the way, when is the NHL going to wise up and have a trophy for the best offensive D-man and one for the best defensive D-man (call it the Larry Robinson)?

Even if Matteau was on the Kings I don't think he would be playing since he couldn't even crack our team.
- Devils9503

He couldn't crack our team because we have a zillion unmovable contracts