I love this matteau hate by people that have never watched him play

4th liner? LOL

AND he's on pace for 134 points in the AHL this year
- TheJerseyDevil1

152 actually lol kids a beast

152 actually lol
- BDizzlez

For some reason thought there were only 67 games in the AHL season. who the (frank) knows, no one watches that league.

For some reason thought there were only 67 games in the AHL season. who the (frank) knows, no one watches that league.
- TheJerseyDevil1

I'm realistically hoping for a 25-25 season for his 20 year old season. Anything more then that is gravy.

I love this matteau hate by people that have never watched him play

4th liner? LOL
- shvingter88

He's 20 years old and doesn't have a 60 point season yet. Total bust.

He couldn't crack our team because we have a zillion unmovable contracts
- shvingter88

Disagree. You could demote Gionta, Tootoo and trade Brunner, Ryder. I don't mind that he is in Albany. I was just saying that Lou probably could do those things. I'm interested to see if they give him a shot in the lineup next year if he is ready sense Havlat, Jagr, Ryder, Tootoo and Brunner are FAs. Another thing is do they keep Elias at center next year if they don't bring back Havlat because Matteau plays LW and we'd have Cam, Elias, and Clowe, unless the moved Clowe to the RW.

I love this matteau hate by people that have never watched him play

4th liner? LOL
- shvingter88

I said a 4th liner because of the guys we have on LW, Cam, Elias (if not at center next year), Clowe. Because of Clowe it's either he is on the 4th line or 2nd line if Elias is at center.

His fiancée is also ridiculously attractive

He couldn't crack our team because we have a zillion unmovable contracts
- shvingter88

And fantastic first round drafting, how is he supposed to compete with:

Tedenby (08)- Josefson (09)- Bergfors (05)

Corrente (06)- Hale (00)

Ahonen (99)

Going back to 99, I wonder how many teams could ice an all 1st round bust line up. How are we so good in the 2nd and 3rd round?

And fantastic first round drafting, how is he supposed to compete with:

Tedenby (08)- Josefson (09)- Bergfors (05)

Corrente (06)- Hale (00)

Ahonen (99)

Going back to 99, I wonder how many teams could ice an all 1st round bust line up. How are we so good in the 2nd and 3rd round?
- smellmyfinger

I'd say at least half.

I'd say at least half.
- Devils9503

I'd actually be really interested to watch a Teddy- JJ - Bergfors line lol. maybe it'll happen in the KHL some day.

I'd say at least half.
- Devils9503

At least one first round bust at each position in 15 years? No way half, I think the Devils may me in a league of their own there.

And we could even carry and extra forward with Adrian Foster in 2001. That list also constitutes all of our first rounders except for Parise and Zajac from 1999-2011.

I suppose because he was drafted #30 after we took Matteau #29.
- smellmyfinger

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At least one first round bust at each position in 15 years? No way half, I think the Devils may me in a league of their own there.

And we could even carry and extra forward with Adrian Foster in 2001. That list also constitutes all of our first rounders except for Parise and Zajac from 1999-2011.
- smellmyfinger

I looked at the 99 draft and the only teams that selected players that have played long are Van(Sedins), NYI (Tim Connolly and Taylor Pyett), NYR second pick in the first round (Jamie Lundmark), OTT (Havlat), BOS (Boynton), STL (Barret Jackman), and CGY (Oleg Saprykin), and CAR (David Tanabe). I was gonna say Patrick Stefan as well, but he played under 200 games and was the first overall pick. Lunmark could go either way as being a bust or not depending on what you would consider a bust. Every other player didn't pan out.

I looked at the 99 draft and the only teams that selected players that have played long are Van(Sedins), NYI (Tim Connolly and Taylor Pyett), NYR second pick in the first round (Jamie Lundmark), OTT (Havlat), BOS (Boynton), STL (Barret Jackman), and CGY (Oleg Saprykin), and CAR (David Tanabe). I was gonna say Patrick Stefan as well, but he played under 200 games and was the first overall pick. Lunmark could go either way as being a bust or not depending on what you would consider a bust. Every other player didn't pan out.
- Devils9503

Ok but what about the rest of the 12 year span I was talking about? My point wasn't that other teams never pick busts or that some drafts aren't thin, my point was the Devils within a 12 year span managed to select a bust at LW, RW, G and two busts at C and D, all in the first round. I don't think there's a team out there that can match that feat.

Ok but what about the rest of the 12 year span I was talking about?
- smellmyfinger

I think it depends on what you would consider a bust, for example Sutherby was picked in 2000, played 460 games, but only scored 99 points. Would he be considered a bust. It could both ways. David Hale would be another example for 2000. I counted 16 busts in 2000.

Ok but what about the rest of the 12 year span I was talking about? My point wasn't that other teams never pick busts or that some drafts aren't thin, my point was the Devils within a 12 year span managed to select a bust at LW, RW, G and two busts at C and D, all in the first round. I don't think there's a team out there that can match that feat.
- smellmyfinger

Don't know, that would take a while to do. lol

I believe they were allowed to change because TB took the TO. If the Devils called a TO then they would not be allowed to sub.
- Gambi99

No. It was a mistake. If a team ices the puck they can make no changes regardless of timeouts. The only time they could were if a player were injured and thus needed to be replaced

EDIT: Or to replace a pulled goaltender

Thing is, no one is really talking about it. Not the other coach or anyone on TB, not anyone who recapped the game that I saw, etc. Certainly no one on NJ said anything. So I wouldn't be surprised if the refs still don't even realize it.
- CaptCrankypants

I was at the game and didn't realize it. Kudos to the Devils

Disagree. You could demote Gionta, Tootoo and trade Brunner, Ryder. I don't mind that he is in Albany. I was just saying that Lou probably could do those things. I'm interested to see if they give him a shot in the lineup next year if he is ready sense Havlat, Jagr, Ryder, Tootoo and Brunner are FAs. Another thing is do they keep Elias at center next year if they don't bring back Havlat because Matteau plays LW and we'd have Cam, Elias, and Clowe, unless the moved Clowe to the RW.
- Devils9503

First you're not thinking like lou and Pete, players that they like wont be demoted. Also trades aren't as easy as they are in nhl15.

Yes I believe so. It only says the "offending" team calls a TO they cannot change .

Here is the rule:



Edit-- So in this case the Devils were the "offending" team but it was Tampa Bay who called a Time Out so the Devils were allowed to change.
- Gambi99

Nowhere in there does it say if the other team calls a timeout the offending team can make a change. They can only change to replace a pulled tender or for an injured player.

That doesn't indicate to me that the Devils are allowed to change if TB calls a time out, just that NJ can't change players even if they call a time out. It doesn't say anything about the other team calling one.
- CaptCrankypants

Have to give credit to the Devils last night. Outside of the dumpster fire Salvador their defensive coverage was superb. Schneider swallowed shot after shot which was huge not only keeping rebounds down but also allowing the Devils to get the puck and exit the zone. They did a great job at clogging the neutral zone and even if the Bolts were fatigued (4 games in 6 nights AND back-to-back), they weathered the early storm and the Bolts couldn't get anything going.

From what is saw last night you guys have a solid team that with Schneider backstopping has a chance on any given night. Good luck until we meet again

Have to give credit to the Devils last night. Outside of the dumpster fire Salvador their defensive coverage was superb. Schneider swallowed shot after shot which was huge not only keeping rebounds down but also allowing the Devils to get the puck and exit the zone. They did a great job at clogging the neutral zone and even if the Bolts were fatigued (4 games in 6 nights AND back-to-back), they weathered the early storm and the Bolts couldn't get anything going.

From what is saw last night you guys have a solid team that with Schneider backstopping has a chance on any given night. Good luck until we meet again
- uf1910

I think it depends on what you would consider a bust, for example Sutherby was picked in 2000, played 460 games, but only scored 99 points. Would he be considered a bust. It could both ways. David Hale would be another example for 2000. I counted 16 busts in 2000.
- Devils9503

Ok let me rephrase then, while it is too early in my mind to judge Larsson or anyone drafted after him, the Devils had 9 first round picks. Granted those picks were late in the draft. Two of those picks were Parise and Zajac.
The other 7 were:
Ari Ahonen (1999) bad draft year as you mentioned.
David Hale (2000) Brad Boyes, Steve Ott, Justin Williams and Kronwall all picked after him in the first round.
Adrian Foster (2001) picked 28th, but there were some solid players picked in the 2nd round.
Nicklaus Bergors (2005) Picked 23, TJ Oshie, Cogliano, Niskanen, James Neal and Vlasic all went after him and before the Devils 2nd round pick.
2006- Devils trade down to 30th, St Louis gets NJs pick and takes Berglund, we get Corrente.
2008- Devils trade down from 21. The 22nd pick was Jordan Eberle. We get Mattias Tedenby.
2009- Devils trade up giving Calgary our first and third. We select Josefson. Passed on Kyle Palmieri and Ryan OReilly.

Again every team busts sometimes, but I really doubt anyone can match out 1st round futility.