Oilfan19
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Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB Joined: 02.16.2012
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The problem I have with it is we don't really address the defense that much. Nothing against Yandle, but if he's in I'm dealing Schultz for a more rounded guy on the backend. Yandle just doesn't make this team harder to play against. Unless we outright abandon defense and play an offense only system. - Lahey
This was my point on the original post. We need a shut down guy/pairing not another offensive dman |
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BigDre
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB Joined: 01.09.2012
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I don't think Hall is the problem.
They have other players they could trade for a center, how about Yaks?
I guess Hall may be the problem if people think the Oil should have drafter Seguin. - hillbillydeluxe
He's just finding his beast-mode, and his value is low. I'd rather trade Ebs and throw in a bit extra than move Yak. |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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That's like the Colin Fraser argument except reversed. Hall is the nega-Fraser  - Morris
Hahaha....I just don't see Hall as a good leader i.e. Toews, Bergeron etc. More of a secondary type personality.
Not saying they should have drafted Seguin at all, but if you could move him for say a Bergeron type player would you do it? |
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If the Oilers win 2 in a row this place might implode.
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Do you think they'd get full value for Hall? or that Hall wouldn't be the best player in that trade? Give me a semi-realistic scenario where trading Hall makes this team better, and keep in mind that every GM knows the Oil are bent over a barrel right now. - BigDre
A good scenario is where MacT can get players to fill other positions that are needed. Sure we have a LW problem, but it'd be better if defense could start a rush and actually play defense. |
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The-O-G
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 11.29.2011
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He's just finding his beast-mode, and his value is low. I'd rather trade Ebs and throw in a bit extra than move Yak. - BigDre
But is he elite yet? |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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The problem I have with it is we don't really address the defense that much. Nothing against Yandle, but if he's in I'm dealing Schultz for a more rounded guy on the backend. Yandle just doesn't make this team harder to play against. Unless we outright abandon defense and play an offense only system. - Lahey
I don't think he makes us any easier to play against than with Petry in the lineup. That being said, if we're going to make a big trade and give up probably the best piece, the primary guy we get back should probably be a guy that is an excellent fit. I don't know that we'd need to change our system to compensate for Petry out, Yandle in, but the notion that we're looking for a more rounded player is well stated.
If there was a deal with Dubinsky/Tyutin deal floating around, I'd of course prefer that.
P.S. everytime I look at your posts I think I'm replying to OG |
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BigDre
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB Joined: 01.09.2012
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If we could pull off a Petry + Ebs for Yandle and Vermette deal, we could have this:
Hall-Nuge-Perron
Pouliot-Vermette-Yakupov
Draisaitl-Arcobello-Purcell
Hendricks-Gordon-Joensuu
Yandle-Fayne
Marincin-Schultz
Ference-Nikitin
Better? Worse? The same? - Morris
I could live with that for the rest of the year. Would need to find a solid LW to play with Draisaitl next year though. |
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BigDre
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB Joined: 01.09.2012
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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This was my point on the original post. We need a shut down guy/pairing not another offensive dman - Oilfan19
I guess the question would become what can you get for Schultz? I take Yandle over him everyday of the week |
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about as elite as Lander at this point - BigDre
Derp. |
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Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB Joined: 02.16.2012
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If the Oilers win 2 in a row this place might implode. - robin_steele264
Already pre-planning the parade |
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BigDre
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB Joined: 01.09.2012
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A good scenario is where MacT can get players to fill other positions that are needed. Sure we have a LW problem, but it'd be better if defense could start a rush and actually play defense. - Oilers4Life14
So your semi-realistic situation is for MacT to trade our best player for some players we need, and then fill the hole on LW he created.
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Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB Joined: 02.16.2012
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I guess the question would become what can you get for Schultz? I take Yandle over him everyday of the week - Lahey
Agreed. Schultz package for Staal? |
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BigDre
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB Joined: 01.09.2012
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Derp. - Oilers4Life14
Still grappling with understanding humour and sarcasm eh? |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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Hahaha....I just don't see Hall as a good leader i.e. Toews, Bergeron etc. More of a secondary type personality.
Not saying they should have drafted Seguin at all, but if you could move him for say a Bergeron type player would you do it? - The-O-G
Hall for Bergeron? It's a soft No...our centre situation is so dire, but with Nuge and Drai in the pipeline it seems like investing in a 3rd top 6 C is a little frivolous.
Nuge or Drai would be on the table if I'm the Oilers trying to keep Hall and add Bergeron though. |
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Oilfan19
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Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB Joined: 02.16.2012
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Hall for Bergeron? It's a soft No...our centre situation is so dire, but with Nuge and Drai in the pipeline it seems like investing in a 3rd top 6 C is a little frivolous.
Nuge or Drai would be on the table if I'm the Oilers trying to keep Hall and add Bergeron though. - Morris
Bergeron would solve about 36 problems on this team alone. |
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Still grappling with understanding humour and sarcasm eh? - BigDre
I know it was sarcasm jackass.
The majority of the time I get called stupid on this site is when I am being sarcastic.. |
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Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB Joined: 02.16.2012
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I know it was sarcasm jackass.
The majority of the time I get called stupid on this site is when I am being sarcastic.. - Oilers4Life14
Or being an idiot like saying lets get rid of Hall |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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I guess the question would become what can you get for Schultz? I take Yandle over him everyday of the week - Lahey
me too. If we could go back and sign Petry to a longterm deal and shop Schultz around, I'd do it.
I was just starting in the framework of values that management has seemed to set out. That being said, keeping Yandle-lite and adding Yandle may well be as you say overkill |
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If the Oilers win 2 in a row this place might implode. - robin_steele264
So what you are saying the this place is made of bricks and the Oilers are the big bad wolf.  Implosion unlikely
I know its not a good idea to change coaches every few months, but you cannot fire the team can you? |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 01.03.2013
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If you goofs are tanking, you shouldn't be throwing kids like Nurse/Marncin to the lions. They should be in the AHL playing competetive games. It won't do them any good to get blown out every night, they'll be branded losers. - TheJerseyDevil1
Goofs? Lol
First off Jabroni, Marincin is in the AHL and Nurse is just getting his 9 game look before he goes back to Jr. Not sure if you're aware of the rules but as a 19 yr old CHL player he can't play in the AHL.
Goof. |
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Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB Joined: 02.16.2012
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Goofs? Lol
First off Jabroni, Marincin is in the AHL and Nurse is just getting his 9 game look before he goes back to Jr. Not sure if you're aware of the rules but as a 19 yr old CHL player he can't play in the AHL.
Goof.  - Jeropotato
BOOM Roasted |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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If we could pull off a Petry + Ebs for Yandle and Vermette deal, we could have this:
Hall-Nuge-Perron
Pouliot-Vermette-Yakupov
Draisaitl-Arcobello-Purcell
Hendricks-Gordon-Joensuu
Yandle-Fayne
Marincin-Schultz
Ference-Nikitin
Better? Worse? The same? - Morris
Better IMO. Still a bit iffy on that 2nd pairing, but up front that looks solid. |
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Or being an idiot like saying lets get rid of Hall  - Oilfan19
Okay, so finishing Bottom 7th every year since 2010 is good? Dude (frank) off. We need something big here. Hall is a great player, but is he helping the team much? Nah. Does his points contribute to winning? Nah. The reason we want him is because he puts up 80 points a year. Does it contribute to success no. |
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