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ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Oct 16 @ 8:35 AM ET
if after 9 games, this team is still a poop show, send leon down and for (frank)s sake, trade for an NHL centre.

Leon has done some really nice things, but why expose him to this poop. Same with nurse. Nurse has made some nice plays and hits, not afraid to shoot but also looks like a rookie dman.

I honestlh can't tell if this is a chemistry thing due to a lot of roster turnover in the year or the team is this (frank)ing bad. I hate thinking we are in tank mode 4 games in (not that we are intentionally losing) but (frank) it's the same thing year after year after year.

If we do in fact get in the McDavid/eichel sweepstakes (I bet the NHL doesn't allow that behind the scenes) I'm trading nuge and eberle for bigger players. I keep leon because he is meant for the west and looks good with "infinirebuild is his fault" yakupov
Misterbator
Calgary Flames
Location: Monkeytown, NB
Joined: 10.13.2014

Oct 16 @ 8:36 AM ET
How would you feel if a guy like Feaster was your gm? At least you'd have somewhat of a goaltender in your system.
Misterbator
Calgary Flames
Location: Monkeytown, NB
Joined: 10.13.2014

Oct 16 @ 8:38 AM ET
you guys must be so tired of talking about this stuff. I think I am going to shut up now and hit the showers.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 16 @ 8:38 AM ET
So you would trade Draisaitl?
- Misterbator


No...I guess you could add Nurse to that list as well....This team has huge assets ...and some missed place pieces......Youth is great...but a team full of youth doesn't work.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 16 @ 8:39 AM ET
Personally, I just think they need to tweak the organization. Is Eakins the right guy? I don't like him much as a coach, but that doesn't speak towards his abilities. If I were Katz, I would clean house in upper management, not because I hate Kevin Lowe or MacT, but because they haven't gotten the job done.

If the Oilers end up as bottom feeders once again, it's obviously the right time to do it. If they could draft in the top 3 this year, I highly doubt their pick would be a disappointment.

Lastly, I just think everyone needs to chill out. 0-4 is a crappy start yes, but it's not the Wayne Gretzky trade. Quit listening to all the media pundits who tirelessly dissect the Oiler's rebuild against a gold standard that doesn't exist. Pittsburgh and Chicago sort of mirrored each other in how each franchise rebuilt, but that doesn't mean that it was all done according to plan. These things obviously take time and a whole lot of trial and error.

p.s. Fire that fricken coach already

- Misterbator


It's not even a bronze standard rebuild though.

Hey, I'm not preaching to the fans, they know the issues as well, probably more than we do.

At what point do you stop saying, calm down, it's only 0-11. (not you, the royal you)

It's not even the start of this season, it's the fact, can anyone see any tangible improvement from 5 years back?

Drafting McDavid won't help much either. When you have Fasth and Scrivens as your goalies and Nikitin, Fayne, Ference, Petry (not too bad) and the others as your D, 4/5 good forwards aren't going to help much.

Added to that a recycling of bottom 6 forwards, there seems to be no real plan. Hopefully, Nurse, Mancirin and Klefblom are really really good, because if not, how do you improve the D?

With the exception of Hall, no one really seems to give a (frank), which is worrisome. And the number 1 centre is starting to look a bit injury prone. He's missing a good chunk of games in his career already.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Oct 16 @ 8:40 AM ET
So McDavid has 20 points in 7 games

Eichel has 4 in 1
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Oct 16 @ 8:45 AM ET
So McDavid has 20 points in 7 games

Eichel has 4 in 1

- ystoil

Eichel outpacing him a tougher league.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Oct 16 @ 8:48 AM ET
Personally, I just think they need to tweak the organization. Is Eakins the right guy? I don't like him much as a coach, but that doesn't speak towards his abilities. If I were Katz, I would clean house in upper management, not because I hate Kevin Lowe or MacT, but because they haven't gotten the job done.

If the Oilers end up as bottom feeders once again, it's obviously the right time to do it. If they could draft in the top 3 this year, I highly doubt their pick would be a disappointment.

Lastly, I just think everyone needs to chill out. 0-4 is a crappy start yes, but it's not the Wayne Gretzky trade. Quit listening to all the media pundits who tirelessly dissect the Oiler's rebuild against a gold standard that doesn't exist. Pittsburgh and Chicago sort of mirrored each other in how each franchise rebuilt, but that doesn't mean that it was all done according to plan. These things obviously take time and a whole lot of trial and error.

p.s. Fire that fricken coach already

- Misterbator


how Kevin Lowe still has a job in the club's hockey operations department, let alone pretty much the top job, is mystifying. the old guard influence cannot possibly run that deep.

also, in terms of the Pitts/Chicago comparison, how can you say it doesn't exist? they made the right draft choices high in the first, and found gems like Keith and Letang outside the first. you could argue that Edmonton made the wrong call on all 3 of their #1 picks.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Oct 16 @ 8:48 AM ET
you guys must be so tired of talking about this stuff. I think I am going to shut up now and hit the showers.
- Misterbator

You have no (frank)ing clue how tiring this all is.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Oct 16 @ 8:49 AM ET
how Kevin Lowe still has a job in the club's hockey operations department, let alone pretty much the top job, is mystifying. the old guard influence cannot possibly run that deep.
- DoubleDown

It's like a gang.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 16 @ 8:51 AM ET
if after 9 games, this team is still a poop show, send leon down and for (frank)s sake, trade for an NHL centre. on has done some really nice things, but why expose him to this poop. Same with nurse. Nurse has made some nice plays and hits, not afraid to shoot but also looks like a rookie dman.

I honestlh can't tell if this is a chemistry thing due to a lot of roster turnover in the year or the team is this (frank)ing bad. I hate thinking we are in tank mode 4 games in (not that we are intentionally losing) but (frank) it's the same thing year after year after year.

If we do in fact get in the McDavid/eichel sweepstakes (I bet the NHL doesn't allow that behind the scenes) I'm trading nuge and eberle for bigger players. I keep leon because he is meant for the west and looks good with "infinirebuild is his fault" yakupov

- ystoil

It's easy for me to say but this is exactly what I'd do. Get Nurse and LD the hell out of there ASAP.
This is truly the year to tank (tough for the fans). I wish the Leafs would.
if you are in the running for McDavid or Eichel (unfortunately I think you are) trade RNH and Eberle (neither) of which are built for the West. Trade them for grinder type forwards (think Dustin Brown, Callahan types). You may lose natural talent, but I'd bet you win more games
RazzDazzle
Joined: 07.02.2012

Oct 16 @ 9:03 AM ET

Can't say this is much of a surprise... Anyone outside of Edmonton knew that Scrivens + Fasth weren't much of an upgrade over Dubnyk. Scrivens couldn't even beat James Reimer out of the #1 goalie position in TO, he's the backups backup at best.

Tanking for McDavid... Sure sounds an awful lot like Tanking for Hall... Tanking for Nugent-Hopkins... Tanking for Yakupov.

There has to be a better strategy than tanking for the next Wayne Gretzky. You need to move on. Trade some of the bozo's for some experienced players that care about winning.
thekidline
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Trenton, ON
Joined: 07.27.2013

Oct 16 @ 9:12 AM ET
Call me when you write something better....
Ryan Garner
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 10.26.2006

Oct 16 @ 9:15 AM ET
Call me when you write something better....
- thekidline


Your number still 555-DINK?
OilerFan16
Edmonton Oilers
Location: SK
Joined: 07.15.2013

Oct 16 @ 9:16 AM ET
I don't think anything happens until after our homestead. If we get .900 goaltending I'd bet we win 5 of 7. Looks to much like the beginning of last season, scoring enough goals to win but goaltending hasn't been able to make a big save
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Oct 16 @ 9:17 AM ET
Your number still 555-DINK?
- Ryan Garner

LoveGun
Location: Detroit, MI
Joined: 02.25.2011

Oct 16 @ 9:18 AM ET
Ryan Garner: Frustrated by the Oilers? Look to Secada and Live
- Ryan Garner


Your blogs are making me long for he days of Tricky Richard Cloutier
jaumiller
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ask not what Matt Ellis can do for you, ask what can you do for Matt Ellis. , NY
Joined: 12.06.2012

Oct 16 @ 9:20 AM ET
Guys for the love of god the sabres are supposed to be dead last.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Oct 16 @ 9:25 AM ET
Can't say this is much of a surprise... Anyone outside of Edmonton knew that Scrivens + Fasth weren't much of an upgrade over Dubnyk. Scrivens couldn't even beat James Reimer out of the #1 goalie position in TO, he's the backups backup at best.

Tanking for McDavid... Sure sounds an awful lot like Tanking for Hall... Tanking for Nugent-Hopkins... Tanking for Yakupov.

There has to be a better strategy than tanking for the next Wayne Gretzky. You need to move on. Trade some of the bozo's for some experienced players that care about winning.

- RazzDazzle

It's not tanking when you straight-up suck.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Oct 16 @ 9:26 AM ET
Reason number 1 why not to write and post blogs whilst drunk or on some form of hallucinogenic or psychoactive drug: You may post a video, and lyrics to a Jon Secada song.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Oct 16 @ 9:27 AM ET
Guys for the love of god the sabres are supposed to be dead last.
- jaumiller

You are not even on our level of suckage
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Oct 16 @ 9:27 AM ET
Not.... (frank)ing...... Pregnant.......


Again I win at life....

Thank (frank)ing god...l
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Oct 16 @ 9:28 AM ET
Not.... (frank)ing...... Pregnant.......


Again I win at life....

Thank (frank)ing god...l

- HouseArrest187

HOW!? How are you able to get out of Yeti'ing your life!?!?!?
LoveGun
Location: Detroit, MI
Joined: 02.25.2011

Oct 16 @ 9:29 AM ET
Not.... (frank)ing...... Pregnant.......


Again I win at life....

Thank (frank)ing god...l

- HouseArrest187


Reveen told me to tell you "start wearing condoms, your'e setting a bad example for jail bait". Whatever in the (frank) that's supposed to mean.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Oct 16 @ 9:30 AM ET
Can't say this is much of a surprise... Anyone outside of Edmonton knew that Scrivens + Fasth weren't much of an upgrade over Dubnyk. Scrivens couldn't even beat James Reimer out of the #1 goalie position in TO, he's the backups backup at best.

Tanking for McDavid... Sure sounds an awful lot like Tanking for Hall... Tanking for Nugent-Hopkins... Tanking for Yakupov.

There has to be a better strategy than tanking for the next Wayne Gretzky. You need to move on. Trade some of the bozo's for some experienced players that care about winning.

- RazzDazzle

Yes they are deliberately tanking for Mcdavid, because they see how well those top picks have done to make the team good, they figure why not get another one. Using logic and abstract thought, are concepts that evade you aren't they?
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