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aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Oct 17 @ 10:43 PM ET
Yeah. I think you can question Fla or TB. Having Jones and Hedman moving forward would look pretty good
- PhillySportsGuy


Why I question them less is that they had less depth at the position they picked than Colorado did at center.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 17 @ 10:49 PM ET
Why I question them less is that they had less depth at the position they picked than Colorado did at center.
- aflyerpower8


I think you get into trouble when you draft for need instead of overall talent. It's so difficult to predict the future in 3-5 years. O'Reily and Duchene may suck in 4 years. Barrie and Erik Johnson may be a great top pair.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Oct 17 @ 10:56 PM ET
I think you get into trouble when you draft for need instead of overall talent. It's so difficult to predict the future in 3-5 years. O'Reily and Duchene may suck in 4 years. Barrie and Erik Johnson may be a great top pair.
- PhillySportsGuy


That style of picking is what got Edmonton is trouble. If the talent levels are not significantly different, you should try to take the player in the positions that are most important and you have the most need in.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:00 PM ET
That style of picking is what got Edmonton is trouble. If the talent levels are not significantly different, you should try to take the player in the positions that are most important and you have the most need in.
- aflyerpower8


They didn't surround their young guys with the proper players. Drafting a defenseman instead of Hall, RNH or Yakupov wouldn't have put them in a better position. They have several good defensive prospects right now. They needed more two-way veterans in their top 9 and more talent in goal and on defense.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Oct 17 @ 11:07 PM ET
They didn't surround their young guys with the proper players. Drafting a defenseman instead of Hall, RNH or Yakupov wouldn't have put them in a better position. They have several good defensive prospects right now. They needed more two-way, veterans in their top 9 and more talent in goal and on defense.
- PhillySportsGuy


Not just drafting a defenseman, but drafting for need. If they took Seguin and Murray instead of Yakupov and Hall, I think they would be a better team. Now they are rushing an 18 year old because they lack center depth and still don't have a competitive defense despite adding veterans.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Oct 17 @ 11:10 PM ET
Yeah, but is he going to get a raise to the $6mm that Eberle makes now?

I like Eberle, but I think Perron is more realistic/cheaper.

- Jsaquella



I still think Yak is going to be a steal one day and someone will pick him up cheap. dude just needs a change of scenery and some confidence to beast out. jmo.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:14 PM ET
Not just drafting a defenseman, but drafting for need. If they took Seguin and Murray instead of Yakupov and Hall, I think they would be a better team. Now they are rushing an 18 year old because they lack center depth and still don't have a competitive defense despite adding veterans.
- aflyerpower8


Seguin may have imploded if given the keys to the car in Edmonton. He was in a position where they could slowly ease him into the lineup in Boston. He still wasn't mature enough.

Murray looks real good, but his situation is similar to Seguin in that he has been eased into the lineup in Columbus. They are a strong, two-way team as well.

What I'm saying is that any young player would have looked bad on the Oilers.

Edit: I would much rather have Murray than Yakupov, but that's because I think Murray is going to be a better player. It's not because he's fit the need of the Oilers more.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 17 @ 11:15 PM ET
They didn't surround their young guys with the proper players. Drafting a defenseman instead of Hall, RNH or Yakupov wouldn't have put them in a better position. They have several good defensive prospects right now. They needed more two-way veterans in their top 9 and more talent in goal and on defense.
- PhillySportsGuy


Pull out a map and look where Edmonton is. It's got to be tough dealing with ufas.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:19 PM ET
Pull out a map and look where Edmonton is. It's got to be tough dealing with ufas.
- Just5


They can't trade?
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Oct 17 @ 11:22 PM ET
They can't trade?
- PhillySportsGuy


Even there, you are fighting NTCs
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:23 PM ET
Even there, you are fighting NTCs
- aflyerpower8


I think they're problem is the GM supremely overvalues his players and prospects.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:23 PM ET
Whew, long day

Anything new with the Flyers?
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Oct 17 @ 11:24 PM ET
I think they're problem is the GM supremely overvalues his players and prospects.
- PhillySportsGuy


That too
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:27 PM ET
Whew, long day

Anything new with the Flyers?

- BiggE


Phantoms won home opener in OT. Manning with the game winner. Laughton had 2 goals and Ghost had 2 assists, Cousins had 2 assists.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:28 PM ET
Phantoms won home opener in OT. Manning with the game winner. Laughton had 2 goals and Ghost had 2 assists, Cousins had 2 assists.
- PhillySportsGuy

Cool, thanks!!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:30 PM ET
Cool, thanks!!
- BiggE


Hagg played well too. Finished with 6 shots on goal, but didn't register a point.

Sanheim also scored for his Junior team
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 17 @ 11:37 PM ET
Hagg played well too. Finished with 6 shots on goal, but didn't register a point.

Sanheim also scored for his Junior team

- PhillySportsGuy

Sounds like a great night for the Flyers future. Glad to see Cousins stepping up, he has potential to be a nice bottom 6 forward
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Oct 18 @ 12:29 AM ET
i just dont want laggy/choppy feeds because of all the n00bs
- Crimsoninja

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 18 @ 1:00 AM ET
Oilers lose again. 0-5 to start the year. This is painful.

Maybe they'll finally make a significant move. But with MacT they probably just move Petry for a mediocre backup goalie.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 6:16 AM ET
Alright you got me

You know who had 35 and 32 even strength points for 08-09 and 09-10 (the chart I'm looking at has Coots at 28 Even points last year)?

Jordan Staal.

Would you have taken Jordan Staal as your 2nd line center of the future for your team back then to build a perennial contender?

- Just5


Absolutely.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 18 @ 6:18 AM ET
Whew, long day

Anything new with the Flyers?

- BiggE


No, the consensus is they still suck.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 18 @ 6:40 AM ET
Anyone have a link to the phantom's highlights from last night?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 18 @ 8:14 AM ET


Drouin's first goal in AHL. I don't believe he's long for that league.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 18 @ 10:54 PM ET
Flyers win!!! Finally. Jfc. Missed most of it but looked like a bonkers games.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 18 @ 11:59 PM ET
Flyers win!!! Finally. Jfc. Missed most of it but looked like a bonkers games.
- Hextall271



new-ish blog, sir
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