How bout Yak for Sid Geno Tanger Sutter and we'll tell Detroit to send you Datysuk
- neilsonnn18

Why do people do this? It's not clever, funny or amusing. You just out yourself as a dullard. I don't know you, but I have to believe you're better than that.

You mean the Oilers hired a fancy stats blogger and they aren't doing well? Is that possible?

Dea looking good with the baby pens

You mean the Oilers hired a fancy stats blogger and they aren't doing well? Is that possible?
- Grinder47

Did one of these smart persons hurt your feelings or are you just mad because statistics have shown the grit and personality specialists you have a hard on for are useless?

I just had to ask since you seem to love to throw snark at Gunners views or anyone who, God forbid, might agree.

You mean the Oilers hired a fancy stats blogger and they aren't doing well? Is that possible?
- Grinder47

Did a apple genius steal your girlfriend or something?
Maybe you caught a geeksquad guy giving it to your wife. This Nerd hate is priceless

Did one of these smart persons hurt your feelings or are you just mad because statistics have shown the grit and personality specialists you have a hard on for are useless?

I just had to ask since you seem to love to throw snark at Gunners views or anyone who, God forbid, might agree.
- ImScore71

Shown?? What have they shown? Adams and Sill are in the lineup over wimps like Megna and Dea. We cut Carcillo, one of the two teams in the league on the cusp of a dynasty pick him up. The Oilers hire a ''Hockey analytics genius" and they are 0-4. I don't think anything has been proven and honestly I believe they have a place, but the fanaticism over them is a passing fad. The role of a good forth line grinder however always has a place in hockey. I think Ryan Wilson is a good blogger and has a passion for the pens and I read his blog everyday. I aim Fancy stat snarks at all of you.

Did a apple genius steal your girlfriend or something?
Maybe you caught a geeksquad guy giving it to your wife. This Nerd hate is priceless
- usethe1-2-2

That's really just uncalled for. Folks are allowed to like advanced stats, and they're allowed to dislike advanced stats.

Sure, it was snark, and it's way too early to judge whether in-house metrics guys end up being a worthwhile investment. But there's a lot of pressure on the advanced stats community right now to prove their worth.

Personally, I think advanced stats tend to show which players are good at compiling advanced stats. Kind of like the testing craze in education, where it's less about learning and more about getting proficient at displaying prowess on standardized tests large and small.

The big challenge for the stats community is to show that they're predictive. Not just try to explain the past through their use.

Shown?? What have they shown? Adams and Sill are in the lineup over wimps like Megna and Dea. We cut Carcillo, one of the two teams in the league on the cusp of a dynasty pick him up. The Oilers hire a ''Hockey analytics genius" and they are 0-4. I don't think anything has been proven and honestly I believe they have a place, but the fanaticism over them is a passing fad. The role of a good forth line grinder however always has a place in hockey. I think Ryan Wilson is a good blogger and has a passion for the pens and I read his blog everyday. I aim Fancy stat snarks at all of you.
- Grinder47

I can assure you three things. First, the fanaticism is all in your head. Two, advanced stats are not going anywhere. And third, one man brought into a team to bring an insight into the statistics of the players on an individual and team level was going to have little if any effect on the team, nor do they have a say in coaches or players so you come off as both uninformed and not funny to anyone except maybe yourself.

That's really just uncalled for. Folks are allowed to like advanced stats, and they're allowed to dislike advanced stats.

Sure, it was snark, and it's way too early to judge whether in-house metrics guys end up being a worthwhile investment. But there's a lot of pressure on the advanced stats community right now to prove their worth.

Personally, I think advanced stats tend to show which players are good at compiling advanced stats. Kind of like the testing craze in education, where it's less about learning and more about getting proficient at displaying prowess on standardized tests large and small.

The big challenge for the stats community is to show that they're predictive. Not just try to explain the past through their use.
- hardnosed

just equally snarky retorts to someone who consistently needs to piss and moan In most blogs about stats that are over his head.

You can have Eberle. Make me an offer
- sfrizz

sutter, scuds (cap space relief to take JE contract), despres, 1st rounder. you throw in a 2nd

You mean the Oilers hired a fancy stats blogger and they aren't doing well? Is that possible?
- Grinder47

just equally snarky retorts to someone who consistently needs to piss and moan In most blogs about stats that are over his head.
- ImScore71

its not about "being in over your head." Advanced stats, depending on how and when they are used just cheapen the game. the best, albeit nerdy, example I can come up with is kinda like the matrix movie. at the end when keeanu sees the world as a bunch of numbers and letters. I'd rather take the red pill (blue pill?) and enjoy the game. If I ever watch Sid or Geno or MAF or (name NHL player here) and see corsi or fenwick or o zone starts, please kill me. another example is going to the museam to look at a beautiful piece of artwork and having some snob break it down to brushstrokes and technique and ultimately ruining a great thing.

i sure hope the pens can win tonight. we should have beaten the stars the other night but we blew our bid for a perfect season dang it. so lets redeem ourselves and beat the islanders.

score predictions please!

im going with 5-4 pens
- pensfan024

4-1 isles. Mostly just hoping for this.

Congrats on your cup win
- usethe1-2-2

Lol one point to this guy.

That's really just uncalled for. Folks are allowed to like advanced stats, and they're allowed to dislike advanced stats.

Sure, it was snark, and it's way too early to judge whether in-house metrics guys end up being a worthwhile investment. But there's a lot of pressure on the advanced stats community right now to prove their worth.

Personally, I think advanced stats tend to show which players are good at compiling advanced stats. Kind of like the testing craze in education, where it's less about learning and more about getting proficient at displaying prowess on standardized tests large and small.

The big challenge for the stats community is to show that they're predictive. Not just try to explain the past through their use.
- hardnosed

I predict use of advanced stats to build a team averages out over time... Lol

You mean the Oilers hired a fancy stats blogger and they aren't doing well? Is that possible?
- Grinder47

I know... Especially when the fancy stats blogger clearly has the authority to make trades and roster moves.

Did anyone else watch In the Room? There's a great segment of Sutter mic'd up and talking to Kuni about the D depth. Neither one of them mentions Scuds as an option...
Oy ve

Anyone have a stream for the game tonight?

Brad Marsh made a good point about Advanced Stats

A defenceman can play perfect position, force a shooter into taking a bad angled low percentage shot on net and according to Advanced Stats its a negative Corsi event for that D-man

Yakupov for Sutter, Martin and Kapanen.

Ryan Whitney killing it these days
https://vine.co/v/ObuxP1ZbdVj

Fantastic save early by Fleury on Okposo!

Brad Marsh made a good point about Advanced Stats

A defenceman can play perfect position, force a shooter into taking a bad angled low percentage shot on net and according to Advanced Stats its a negative Corsi event for that D-man
- RoloTahmasee

Or a line gives up a weak perimeter shot and then goes to the other end and holds the puck deep for a full minute without registering a shot and their "possession" number will go down.

Malkin trying to pass through two Islanders come on Geno! Shoot it, don't overthink.

Gotta love broadcast rules.... Game should be on MSG network, but it isn't on any of the 4 I get, but its blacked out on center ice because I'm in the NY market. Nice...