283 2 touches and a pick. I'm not mad. i thought the play calling was conservative at times but we did take some shots down the field. A few fumbles by our receivers killed 2 of our drives.

Orton has scored 19 points per game in 3 games with 5 turnovers. He also sucks...

We need better than both
- sbroads24

I agree.

EJ manuel QBR for the season after the Houston game ranked 35th out of 36 NFL quaterbacks that have played this year 35th! THere is only 32 teams!! He SUCKS
- Cheeseballin

How many times do i have to say that he sucks before you grasp that im not arguing that point. Ej sucks, orton sucks, this offense sucks. But our 3 highest scoring games came with the other guy under center. I dont care how it gets done, this offense needs to be better. They could let the punter play qb and put up the worst stat line ever but if it meant we scored 30 i would not care about the stats.

EJ would avoid some of the bad sacks Orton takes.


The Jets are going to destroy our line
- sbroads24

I have wilkerson in a fantasy league with defensive players, least ill get some joy out of it

Sure, minnesota isnt a very good team, but a win is a win. New england on paper should of killed the jets but came very close to losing to them. Also take in that two major components of are offense didnt play hardly at all. Ugly wins are still wins, enjoy the win and stop complaining..
- beargk

This

EJ would avoid some of the bad sacks Orton takes.


The Jets are going to destroy our line
- sbroads24

When out of the pocket EJ is terrible...

Right now Orton is still the better option. Let me re-phrase: Orton is the lesser of two evils.

Again, this offense is no better with orton under center. But our 3 highest scoring games came with ej under center. So take that for what its worth.
- zdp1189

You forget that EJ has had 2 preseasons with 7 preseasons games, and 13 games operating it...Orton has had 3 games under fire to learn it.
Give it time, Orton isn't the answer long term...but he is better than EJ is now, and likely for his career. EJ just isn't accurate enough, not sure he ever will be accurate enough to be successful in the NFL.
I am convinced he would never had put that ball there for Hogan to go up and grab it...then put it perfectly there sor Sammy.
Enjoy the result, they won.

Right now Orton is still the better option. Let me re-phrase: Orton is the lesser of two evils.
- buffalofan19

Orton is better than any QB we have had since Bledsoe. I know thats not saying much but it is what it is. Fitzy was okay but he was a turnover machine with a weak arm.

I'm in 1st place out of 20 in my Fanduel lineup.

Man I should have bet more than $5

How many times do i have to say that he sucks before you grasp that im not arguing that point. Ej sucks, orton sucks, this offense sucks. But our 3 highest scoring games came with the other guy under center. I dont care how it gets done, this offense needs to be better. They could let the punter play qb and put up the worst stat line ever but if it meant we scored 30 i would not care about the stats.
- zdp1189

Looks like our Punter is a gem...again. Best player at his position on the team...well, maybe Carpenter too.

How many times do i have to say that he sucks before you grasp that im not arguing that point. Ej sucks, orton sucks, this offense sucks. But our 3 highest scoring games came with the other guy under center. I dont care how it gets done, this offense needs to be better. They could let the punter play qb and put up the worst stat line ever but if it meano.t we scored 30 i would not care about the stats.
- zdp1189

ok we agree then yay! The O.C is a big part of the problem. Go back and see how many points Carpenter kicked in and you will relaize EJ couldn't put it in the endzone

Orton is better than any QB we have had since Bledsoe. I know thats not saying much but it is what it is. Fitzy was okay but he was a turnover machine with a weak arm.
- Smittyx36

To be fair, Orton has had 6 turnovers in 3 games

I hate how the fox guys kept bringing up Sammy on Revis Island last year. Sammy was open on many play last week. Doug admitted that they used Sammy as a decoy.

Sammy is a stud and its amazing to have a guy like this on are team catching the ball. Worth the two first? Probably not... But oh well he himself wins us games

To be fair, Orton has had 6 turnovers in 3 games
- IonSabres

Oh i know. He to turns over the ball to much for my liking. But he doesn't let that scare him from throwing it afterwords. EJ was a scared puppy after throwing his picks. He couldn't shake it off like Kyle has

I hate how the fox guys kept bringing up Sammy on Revis Island last year. Sammy was open on many play last week. Doug admitted that they used Sammy as a decoy.

Sammy is a stud and its amazing to have a guy like this on are team catching the ball. Worth the two first? Probably not... But oh well he himself wins us games
- Smittyx36

I don't mind the 2 - 1sts to get him, you are right he is a stud.
What I don't like is that it is highly likely they will need to draft a young franchise QB and it isn't going to happen in the next draft.

I hate how the fox guys kept bringing up Sammy on Revis Island last year. Sammy was open on many play last week. Doug admitted that they used Sammy as a decoy.

Sammy is a stud and its amazing to have a guy like this on are team catching the ball. Worth the two first? Probably not... But oh well he himself wins us games
- Smittyx36

He's absolutely worth those picks.

In the Bills 4 wins - 26 rec 357YDs 3TD's
The Bills 3 losses - 8 rec 76 yards 1TD

He's a difference maker

ok we agree then yay! The O.C is a big part of the problem
- Cheeseballin

We havent had a top notch coaching staff in a very long time.

I don't mind the 2 - 1sts to get him, you are right he is a stud.
What I don't like is that it is highly likely they will need to draft a young franchise QB and it isn't going to happen in the next draft.
- IonSabres

But as we have seen you can get that QB in the second round. Plus whats to say they don't trade their 1st for the following draft for a 1st in this draft? I just don't like it because we have other holes to fill like the O Line.

I think if we do make the playoffs that Orton will be here as the starter next year. And if he improves this season and wins us game I'll be okay with that.

He's absolutely worth those picks.

In the Bills 4 wins - 26 rec 357YDs 3TD's
The Bills 3 losses - 8 rec 76 yards 1TD

He's a difference maker
- sbroads24

I think he is amazing. I'm saying is he worth the picks if we miss the playoffs? Maybe not. I'm not upset that they drafted him. thats for sure.

But as we have seen you can get that QB in the second round. Plus whats to say they don't trade their 1st for the following draft for a 1st in this draft? I just don't like it because we have other holes to fill like the O Line.

I think if we do make the playoffs that Orton will be here as the starter next year. And if he improves this season and wins us game I'll be okay with that.
- Smittyx36

spot on, agreed.
In 2015 draft I want them to draft Guards with all 7 picks...get those 2 positions fixed finally. Then, in FA go get a stud Corner or 2. .. Gilmore ain't it...I'm ok with Graham so far.

spot on, agreed.
In 2015 draft I want them to draft Guards with all 7 picks...get those 2 positions fixed finally. Then, in FA go get a stud Corner or 2. .. Gilmore ain't it...I'm ok with Graham so far.
- IonSabres

extremely disappointed with Gilmore. He is a nice 3rd guy on a team but he ain't no shutdown corner like he was drafted to be. Are secondary is brutal. But if we keep Hughes we are set on the front four and with kiko coming back next season we are pretty good with lbs. So I definitely agree with going after fixing the OL with most of the picks this draft.

Is there a good place to go talk bills football?

Is there a good place to go talk bills football?
- Smittyx36

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- jochfr

nice play