If that's what was required for a player on the wrong side of thirty with that kind of stat line, the smart play is to wish him well, and walk away.
- buffalofan19

They had to spend money . He is not that old . He wanted to be here , when lots of others don't . He has said he wants to be a mentor . He likes the current coach , His contact will not be a big deal as the cap continues to rise . And most of our young talent will be on entry level deals or first restricted free agent contract probably a bridge deal . Really think some people are over thinking this .

They had to spend money . He is not that old . He wanted to be here , when lots of others don't . He has said he wants to be a mentor . He likes the current coach , His contact will not be a big deal as the cap continues to rise . And most of our young talent will be on entry level deals or first restricted free agent contract probably a bridge deal . Really think some people are over thinking this .
- Maximum Signal

The problem isn't this season. The problem becomes 3 or 4 years down the road when he's still under contract, eating up cap, and is more of a liability because nobody's going to trade for him because his salary greatly outweighs his production.

It's great that he wanted to be here. That alone doesn't make him worth that kind of money, and never has.

The entire team is terrible right now.

But of course you're going to come in here and start patting yourself on the back for being right about Moulson.

- HonkFortheGoose

Considering I liked Moulson last year and didn't have a problem with him resigned, that's the last thing I'm doing. I have a problem with the length.

It's obvious he's not a difference maker, he's a role player.

And for the record, I was a huge Hodgson fan a while ago, I have been blasting his performance for the past year as well

The problem isn't this season. The problem becomes 3 or 4 years down the road when he's still under contract, eating up cap, and is more of a liability because nobody's going to trade for him because his salary greatly outweighs his production.

It's great that he wanted to be here. That alone doesn't make him worth that kind of money, and never has.
- buffalofan19

In fairness, it's not like we're littered with bad contracts right now. Not saying it makes it okay but it's probably easier to deal with a few years down the road if he needs to be moved/bought out.

The problem isn't this season. The problem becomes 3 or 4 years down the road when he's still under contract, eating up cap, and is more of a liability because nobody's going to trade for him because his salary greatly outweighs his production.

It's great that he wanted to be here. That alone doesn't make him worth that kind of money, and never has.
- buffalofan19

In 3 or 4 years many of our youth will still be on entry level deals or bridge contracts . The cap continues to rise . It is going to be a non factor . Quit dwelling on a non issue. You don't know all the facts and don't know what other offers he got.

The bean counters will have to figure it out if it does become an issue . Won't they.

As it has been said here by me and numerous others...

In 3 years 3rd liners will be making 5 million a season. The cap will rise so it won't be a big deal. But all of this complaining 6 games into a season about a guy who put up 50 points last year playing for 3 teams?

Most people wanted this type of season and 6 games into it you've had enough?

Just stop watching because it's not going to get much better.

In 3 or 4 years many of our youth will still be on entry level deals or bridge contracts . The cap continues to rise . It is going to be a non factor . Quit dwelling on a non issue. You don't know all the facts and don't know what other offers he got.
- Maximum Signal

I don't need to know what other offers he got. Like I said, if this is what it took to trump other teams, it was have been prudent to tell those teams "congratulations, you win." The Sabres are the ones that either offered or agreed to match these terms. And that's the mistake, whether someone else offered it or not. Why Moulson was such a necessity is beyond mind boggling.

If Moulson's deal were 3 years or less, I'd have absolutely no problem with it.
- buffalofan19

That contract is evidence that Murray is not the golden god he was made out to be. Ted Nolan is inadequate as coach.

They had to spend money . He is not that old . He wanted to be here , when lots of others don't . He has said he wants to be a mentor . He likes the current coach , His contact will not be a big deal as the cap continues to rise . And most of our young talent will be on entry level deals or first restricted free agent contract probably a bridge deal . Really think some people are over thinking this .
- Maximum Signal

There were other players who signed shorter deals.

Mason Raymond comes to mind. Olli Jokinen etc.

Moulson in 3 years concerns me. There shouldn't be an issue calling out players that are contributing next to nothing on this team.

If Tyler Ennis didn't have a goal yet he'd be the topic of discussion as well

The bean counters will have to figure it out if it does become an issue . Won't they.
- Maximum Signal

Yes, they will. The problem is: they shouldn't have to. It's an unnecessary problem the team created for itself.

SABRESBUZZ PROTOCOL : 14-15 Season

1. Crowd slamming "Player A" because he sucks, join crowd.
2. Offer new idea, sometimes supported by statistical proof, as to exactly why A sucks.
3. Crowd debates whether your reason is actually the reason why A sucks.
4. Crowd debates whether your statistics actually support A's sucking.
5. Someone mentions player B.
6. Small group defends Player A as not sucking, actually pretty good.
7. Somebody suggests Management sucks for not foreseeing how bad A would suck.
8. Crowd debates how bad management sucks with respect to lack of foresight.
9. A second person mentions Player B.
10. Crowd debates whether coaching contributes to the suck quality of A.
11. Crowd begins to slam Player B, because he sucks.
12. Return to phase 1, above, but substitute B for A. In all future cycles, advance to next letters in alphabet.

As it has been said here by me and numerous others...

In 3 years 3rd liners will be making 5 million a season. The cap will rise so it won't be a big deal. But all of this complaining 6 games into a season about a guy who put up 50 points last year playing for 3 teams?

Most people wanted this type of season and 6 games into it you've had enough?

Just stop watching because it's not going to get much better.
- Stripes77

I want a properly run professional hockey team. If the Sabres succeed at the Tank, they still have to prove that they can be one. They have a lot to prove.

That contract is evidence that Murray is not the golden god he was made out to be. Ted Nolan is inadequate as coach.
- Buffalo-Sabres

You don't think Murray knew that and is not part of the plan ? When this team is relevant . Ted will not be the coach . Terry will give him a very nice golden parachute or a cushy job somewhere in his growing empire. Why are people freaking out? Think long term here.

SABRESBUZZ PROTOCOL : 14-15 Season

1. Crowd slamming "Player A" because he sucks, join crowd.
2. Offer new idea, sometimes supported by statistical proof, as to exactly why A sucks.
3. Crowd debates whether your reason is actually the reason why A sucks.
4. Crowd debates whether your statistics actually support A's sucking.
5. Someone mentions player B.
6. Small group defends Player A as not sucking, actually pretty good.
7. Somebody suggests Management sucks for not foreseeing how bad A would suck.
8. Crowd debates how bad management sucks with respect to lack of foresight.
9. A second person mentions Player B.
10. Crowd debates whether coaching contributes to the suck quality of A.
11. Crowd begins to slam Player B, because he sucks.
12. Return to phase 1, above, but substitute B for A. In all future cycles, advance to next letters in alphabet.
- Der Kaiser

I blame the refs for not allowing us to use the 'Page 10' clause any longer.

You don't think Murray knew that and is not part of the plan ? When this team is relevant . Ted will not be the coach . Terry will give him a very nice golden parachute or a cushy job somewhere in his growing empire. Why are people freaking out? Think long term here.
- Maximum Signal

Im not freaking out and I agree with you. All it really means is that Murray hasn't proven to us he can get a coach yet. Not saying he wont, but hasn't. I also did not expect Nolan to be this bad.

Yes, they will. The problem is: they shouldn't have to. It's an unnecessary problem the team created for itself.
- buffalofan19

The bean counters need to earn their paychecks to . They just can't sit around and second guess every move . Historically sports franchises run by bean counters fail.

As it has been said here by me and numerous others...

In 3 years 3rd liners will be making 5 million a season. The cap will rise so it won't be a big deal. But all of this complaining 6 games into a season about a guy who put up 50 points last year playing for 3 teams?

Most people wanted this type of season and 6 games into it you've had enough?

Just stop watching because it's not going to get much better.
- Stripes77

This is how I feel about it.

Am I annoyed that they're THIS bad. Sure. I thought they'd at least be a bit more entertaining this year. Boy was I wrong.

But we all knew it wasn't going to be a super fun year either way, so it is what it is.

SABRESBUZZ PROTOCOL : 14-15 Season

1. Crowd slamming "Player A" because he sucks, join crowd.
2. Offer new idea, sometimes supported by statistical proof, as to exactly why A sucks.
3. Crowd debates whether your reason is actually the reason why A sucks.
4. Crowd debates whether your statistics actually support A's sucking.
5. Someone mentions player B.
6. Small group defends Player A as not sucking, actually pretty good.
7. Somebody suggests Management sucks for not foreseeing how bad A would suck.
8. Crowd debates how bad management sucks with respect to lack of foresight.
9. A second person mentions Player B.
10. Crowd debates whether coaching contributes to the suck quality of A.
11. Crowd begins to slam Player B, because he sucks.
12. Return to phase 1, above, but substitute B for A. In all future cycles, advance to next letters in alphabet.
- Der Kaiser

You Sir are a voice of reason and the most intelligent person in the room . IMO

You don't think Murray knew that and is not part of the plan ? When this team is relevant . Ted will not be the coach . Terry will give him a very nice golden parachute or a cushy job somewhere in his growing empire. Why are people freaking out? Think long term here.
- Maximum Signal

My argument all along hasn't been to bash the team for losing, but they look like complete poop. They haven't scored a goal in 137 minutes

I want a properly run professional hockey team. If the Sabres succeed at the Tank, they still have to prove that they can be one. They have a lot to prove.
- Buffalo-Sabres

So throwing Murray under the bus for inheriting an brutal roster that needed to spend $20 million just to get to the floor makes you feel better about yourself?

You can't blame a guy for the hands he was dealt without giving him some time to fix it. I am pretty sure he was stuck with Nolan as well.

You Sir are a voice of reason and the most intelligent person in the room . IMO


- Maximum Signal

Disagree.

If nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve.

Yes, they will. The problem is: they shouldn't have to. It's an unnecessary problem the team created for itself.
- buffalofan19

This happens to every team with players over time. It's an animal that having a salary cap created. If there wasn't a cap, nobody would care what Moulson was making or for how long.

There were other players who signed shorter deals.

Mason Raymond comes to mind. Olli Jokinen etc.

Moulson in 3 years concerns me. There shouldn't be an issue calling out players that are contributing next to nothing on this team.

If Tyler Ennis didn't have a goal yet he'd be the topic of discussion as well
- sbroads24

And maybe none of them would sign here for shorter deals . None of us really know the behind the scenes besides 89 !

Disagree.

If nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve.
- Der Kaiser

You are too Humble . But all the great ones are !

So throwing Darcy under the bus for having a cheap owner makes you feel better about yourself?

You can't blame a guy for the hands he was dealt without giving him some time to fix it. I am pretty sure he was stuck with Nolan as well.
- Stripes77

Fixed circa 2008-2013